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Subj: Re: Potting the black.
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 11:22:35 pm EDT (Viewed 498 times)
Reply Subj: Potting the black.
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 08:35:11 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times)



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    One reason for taking Lara to the edge of the Parodyverse is to make it harder to do teleportation tricks. That's what Thugos meant when he was saying that Lara's current command of her powers couldn't get to to Liu Xi in time to help. And of course, Thugos himself can teleport and can probably resist being snatched; otherwise he'd have been taken out by Goldeneyed years ago.


The point isn't really to harm Thugos, but to annoy him and cause chaos and confusion that can be used to formulate an escape. Sometimes plans have to be formed in small steps.



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    And Thugos was genuinely offering to enter into combat with Lara if she chose that route. I'm guessing she wouldn't fall for it.


Lara didn't mean to enter combat with the Hooded Hood either when she used a similar trick on him. She just needed to keep him busy for a short time. She might be slightly more careful with Thugos though because she knows how far she can push the Hooded Hood, but not Thugos. She wouldn't want to cause a situation where he would set his mind to killing her, and she'd be forced to try to kill him first.



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    The drama here comes from Lara facing difficult decisions with a major villain twisting things and the siren call of the wonderwall. On the bright side Thugos is genuinely interested to see what she's going to do next.


Noted. But also note that Lara is tricky sometimes, because she makes up her own options if she can. If she had to count how many times someone evil gave her a horrible choice to make she wouldn't have enough fingers and toes - so she learned to get creative.



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    As we'll see in the final segment, there's a very specific transaction between Slithis and Thugos, for a very specific set of goals.


So Lara might still have to try to destroy them both before they destroy the Parodyverse?



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    These mystic pact deals tend to preclude lies but not deceptions.


Like I said, Chiaki and Lara are experienced enough to think through every word they say. Liu Xi is smart, but she's still way too trusting sometimes.



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      I also had to laugh at Chiaki's strategy because I believe it actually has a name - it's the martial arts "Crouching Tiger" strategy, isn't it? Conserve your energy, don't fight, appear to be motionless and unimportant, and then strike viciously and mercilessly when the opportunity presents itself.



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    As we'll see again next time, Chiaki clearly understands the technique.


Noted.



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    I think that "the writing on the wall" is certainly only the start. But it's knowledge that can't be unlearned or forgotten. It's like discovering sex - the discovery changes a person's outlook forever. It's like suddenly learning to see in a universe of blind people - your perspective can never be the same and you're very different from everyone else. It's like taking a caveman, educating him to college level, then dumping him back in his cave - he can't possibly be the same and under some circumstances he's become a shaman or a god.


Okay then I have a different angle to think about this from: What if she was always meant to see what was on that wall? Then it changes her, but in a way that puts her on the path she was meant to be on. In other words, someone had much longer-ranging plans than Thugos did.

It might be Shema, it might be the Hooded Hood. Who knows?



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    Whatever it is though, it can't be ignored. Those who make it as far as the wall (very few) are either driven mad by what they comprehend, are absorbed to actually become part of the wall, or return altered and empowered. Thugos calls these people the new gods, to differentiate them from those pantheons accreted from worshipper belief.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying she's immune to the wall or to the choices. Just that the results may come out differently when someone who doesn't naturally fit the rules of the Parodyverse comes in contact with someone that obeys the rules of the Parodyverse. There's a lot of possible variation.

But let's say there isn't, and she has to follow one of three paths: She has to die, she has to become part of the wall, or she has to become a new god.

Because Lara has the capability to turn herself into energy, she could theoretically become part of the wall, but then leave it as well. Her situation is unprecedented in that regard, so there are no rules, really. So let's say to avoid making it *that* easy, for some reason the wall won't want to absorb her kind of energy. That leaves the other two.

Out of the remaining two options, new gods are an extreme rarity. And Lara in particular has everything going against her as one - the Parodyverse simply may not accept her as a new god, and in that case, she dies.

So that makes it quite obvious Dark Thugos wants her out of the way, when all 3 options probably lead to her death. But rather than kill her himself, he wants to send her to the wonderwall, because that way he'll learn something in the course of her death.

But then there's the factor of what happened the last time someone tried to kill Lara. She was yanked out of danger by Shema. That leaves a 2nd possible option - that Thugos believes he will get to meet Shema if he forces Lara to do this. This could be shocking for Dark Thugos, because Shema will be expecting him.

And the last possible option I can think of is Thugos is expecting her to be yanked out of danger, but not to be able to return to the Parodyverse in time to stop whatever plans he has. Somehow he's predicted that Lara can stop him, and he wants to kill 2 birds with one stone - learn about the wonderwall, and get Lara out of the way temporarily.



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      Actually all those questions come from what Dark Thugos said himself. That the wall will change anyone who sees it. But what if everyone who has seen the wall was seeking change? In that case it wouldn't change Lara because she doesn't seek change, she seeks answers - so in her case, she would gain knowledge, not change.



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    It's always a possibility. I don't want to write an absolute set of rules because that would take away the wonder part of the wonderwall.


That's my alternate theory to above. That the wonderwall has made gods out of people who visited it before, because they went to it seeking power. Those who died did so because whatever they seeked, they didn't measure up to the challenge.

Lara would go to the wall seeking not power, but wisdom to use to free her friends and stop Dark Thugos. That could make things interesting.



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      After all, you don't see Thugos volunteering to go see the wall himself. I believe it may be because he wants nothing from it other than to possess it. That means he'll get nothing from it.



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    Thugos has been to the wall. He's become a new god. It's his origin.


Noted.





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