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Subj: And this is the biggest one yet!
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 at 10:08:31 pm EST (Viewed 1202 times)
Reply Subj: Well, bigger than second-biggest anyway.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 at 08:40:53 pm EST (Viewed 3 times)



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    So early on I tried very hard not to "overstep" other posters' turf and their characters' shadows. I was at once both deferential (in ways I am now to arrogant or burned out to be) and overconfident (making gross changes and additions to other poster-characters' situations that I would not consider today). I do recall checking by correspondence with Lisa before I got her and the Hood together, though.


I try not to overstep if I can avoid it. If I feel like I need to include other characters, I see if I can keep them consistent enough with what I've seen before. Where I get in trouble is when the references I'm using are already on the knife's edge, and I just fell off of it.

I never agree with harming other people's characters. Put them in temporary jeopardy, maybe, but I do sympathize with each character I use. I also believe strongly in consequences. So if Dancer would take a beating, whoever did it would have to deal with the consequences; in my small writing world, it probably would mean having to deal with a certain infuriated female Samurai who reserves less talk and more violence for people who do just that kind of thing.

By the way, there's a part of the story I never finished which relates to Chiaki's fury toward violent types of people, I probably should at least clip and post that somewhere.



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    No, they're vital. He said so. He's protecting them.


I meant as far as the meeting. He reminded them a couple of times that the Lair Legion weren't the point of the meeting (and also off limits).



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    There's a lot of progress in hardware and software, but comic-book universes including the Parodyverse are still scientifically ahead of our own world in many fields including robotics and computing.


They are, in the terms that robots and androids in those media can just be switched on and behave exactly like a human. I've implied that Dr. Lia took years to develop her androids' minds. Which speaks more to the point that no company or government in reality is patient enough to allow her to build 2 billion dollar androids, and take decades to do it, especially when the costs and time it takes do not produce a financially viable product.

It's only in comic book universes that someone would pay her that kind of money and allow her that much time to build something just for her own enjoyment.



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    Why, though? I'm assuming that the Parodyverse operates under certain modified conditions, including some physical laws that allow weird sciences to work. Additional metals like vibratium allow different kinds of engineering. Additional mathematical and logic principles allow better "thinking engines". Different universal cosntants allow dimensional travel and faster-than-light movement. Different biological principles enable superpowers. Even cause and effect are altered, making it possible for a well-trained human to avoid a spray of bullets more often than not.


Funny you should mention that, because Chiaki's training is based entirely on videos I've seen of real people, with the exception of her psychic visions.

In reality, a well-trained person...can't dodge bullets at all. But if they can clearly see the person shooting at them, they can take advantage of the lag time needed to actually aim, squeeze the trigger, and fire a bullet. It was actually demonstrated on Mythbusters.



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    What our present storyline explores is what happens of those exceptions are stripped away, leaving science and physics no different to our world.


Ok but here's the trick: I believe that the barrier would only be able to suspend *current* differentials in the rules, not go back in the past and change previous ones. Which is why I believe Hallie might be safe. While she was once a strange A.I., her software has changed enough that it resembles something new that would no longer run afoul of the current rules.



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    I think the most critical difference between the PV and our world in robotic and A.I. is that "Turing test" gap that nobody here has yet found a way to bridge. Therefore the PV conditions evidently favour that discovery since it has aleady been made there.


The Japanese are getting close to cracking that. Another problem is that no one is entirely sure how to tell an A.I. what human morality and comfort levels are. Humans understand that moving in certain subtle ways will creep out people around us. A.I.'s don't yet understand that.

But like I've said, those are essentially software problems. They're also pattern recognition problems, which right now computers aren't terribly good at yet, and is required for an A.I. to observe the way humans behave and not just mimic them, but integrate that into its own behavior.

And ultimately, THAT'S what Dr. Lia is supposed to have finally cracked. So now we're back to that no one in their right mind in the real world would give Dr. Lia the money to do that. What's fortunate for Anna and Nena is that the barrier can't go back and retroactively take away Dr. Lia's funding.



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    It's about whether any kind of electronically-supported consciounsess is possible in a revised set of physical conditions; the narrative will tell, but the general threat facing the cast is: "if it doesn't currently happen in our real-world it won't happen there before long."


The barrier itself that's taking away powers isn't something that the characters have quantified, so Hallie *is* justified in worrying. They don't know what the rules are yet.



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    We'll be picking up on Chiaki in about three chapter's time.


Chiaki has had her psychic gift for so long, she'll probably feels like she's suddenly blind as it fades away. She'll have a hard time convincing herself to go out and face the world like that.






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