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Subj: Re: Wouldn't that make it slippery?
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 at 02:45:08 pm EST (Viewed 3 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Wouldn't that make it slippery?
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 at 12:42:40 pm EST (Viewed 529 times)



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      What were the objections? I don't really recall it at all, I'm afraid.



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    It was when I wrote "Falling on Hard Times", that it was a small plot involving the Lair Legion having financial difficulty sneak up on them, resulting in them all being evicted from the Lair Mansion and having to find somewhere else to live for a while.



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    Hatman didn't have a separate place at the time. Poster-Jay was gone from the board at the time also, but I remember him a long while ago saying that he wished Hatman *would* have his own place. So I tried to accommodate that in the story.



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    After I posted it, I got a couple of "you should have asked first" (ask who??) complaints. I explained that this is what Poster-Jay asked for a long time ago, but that if nobody liked the idea, it could be temporary. After the story was done, I kind of abandoned the idea, because the complaints turned me off to it, and later stories stuck him back in the Mansion (so I assumed the idea was universally abandoned). I guess I give up easily in order to keep the peace.


You're probably suffering from long history of people suffering from storylines that took their characters where they don't want to go. Folks have got sensitive and try to be very courteous about such developments now; and are sometimes defensive of absent or reticent posters who are less likely to object even if they have objections.

If it helps to contextualise this, I did correspond with Jay before introducing the Foundation and we worked out a story arc together. I've got an idea where things can go now - a permission slip, so to speak - so now all I've got to do is tell a story.

On the other hand, I've written out quite a few poser-characters after their posters have vanished from the board - Baron Zemo when he asked to be omitted from the Parodyverse, Pierson's Porter, Grim Reaper, Pegasus, the Scourge of the BZL, Balefire etc - and "benched" a lot of others - Chronic, Finny, DK, NTU-150, Troia, Ziles, et. al. In some cases it was with the permission or even at the request of the poster (as with Amazing Guy and Trickshot). In most I just took a chance and made sure to leave a loophole in case the poster wanted it undone.



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    I'm not saying I should be allowed to make sweeping changes without asking anyone, but sometimes I do try to remember things people say and grant the request as a surprise. What turns me off to that is when there's a touch of political "Maybe we like the idea, but we'll reject it until you email every one of us regulars and wait for permission first". I tend to walk away from concepts when that happens. \:\)


I generally work on the idea that permanent changes require the poster's permission if the poster is still contactable. Likewise changes that seem personal or character-altering, such as sexual encounters for characters who aren't established as permissive.

I've askes some posters for guidelines about their new characters in the LL too. So I know that one wouldn't be likely to swear and another is interested in a certain other character and so on. I know which characters won't kill and which won't cheat. It helps me to figure out my boundaries.



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      He's only without a super-power. That doesn't make him powerless!



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    The distinction is very small when he's walking down the street alone and a gang tries to put him in the hospital.


Then Jay's got to be smart enough not to get caught alone in a dark alley. That's part of the story.


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      But doubtless when the time is right Jay will call upon resources and contacts at his disposal, including the ones you've suggested.



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    Like I said, it depends how much pride he has. I get the impression that his deepest flaw is when he gets it into his mind that he wants to do something on his own, he'll do it even if it means the hard way.


I don't quite see it that way. I think he does have a streak of stubborn independence but he's always been a team player.


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      He'll need especial assistance if he decided to interfere in Velma Klein's re-election campaign. She has serious sponsors.



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    I admit that one's pretty easy - all he has to do is make friends with a reporter who can make sure Velma Klein faces embarrassment in every newspaper.


If it was as simple as that to take down a crooked politician then we wouldn't have any left.

Assuming there was a reporter willing to embarrass Klein that reporter still has several problems:

1. He or she has to be able to verify anything written against a libel or harrassment suit, probably in a GMY court with a Klein-allied judge.

2. He or she has to convince the editor to print it and the publisher to publish it, and these may be people who live and work in a town that Klein effectively controls. Some may be on Klein's secret payroll.

3. Papers survive on advertising revenue, and Klein has enough big business friends who could pull their contracts to make any paper very careful about printing bad things about her.

4. Klein commands a virtual private army of mercenary police, including some metahuman criminals on "rehab", so the reporter would also have to survive to write another story. Any "accidental" death would be investigated by Klein's police and Klein's coroner.

5. Klein has links with bigger fish - she's really only the front in GMY - who can extend that force majeure nationally and even internationally.

That's not to say there isn't a role for a brave reporter, or a spunky lawyer, or a clever tec, in taking the Mayor down; just to say it isn't easy or short. That's just as well, because where's the story in an easy win?







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