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Subj: I'm just going to make this the SPOILER filled reply. SPOILERS PEOPLE - AVOID IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 at 08:31:49 pm EDT (Viewed 3 times) | Reply Subj: And now I've finally seen it as well! I'll try to keep spoilers down to things you'd get from any commercial or trailer at the very most. Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 at 04:53:07 pm EDT (Viewed 503 times) | ||||||
Quote: Quote: 1. The movie was too short. It was densely packed, well paced, and included many good scenes, but this is one story that deserved an extra twenty minutes to decompress. How ironic that I should be complaining about the lack of decompression in an Avengers story! It was very watchable. Roll on the extended DVD edition. Quote: I can see this, but I could also see the set-up trying the patience of the more casual movie-goer. I'm not sure what I would really want to expand, personally... I thought the script offered a nice buffet of character and motivations, giving a little taste of each of them. I was pretty satisfied in general. Quote: I guess if I were to want anything expanded, it would have been Thor's side of things. We're left to make a lot of inferences and given some very simple explanations for his involvement. I guess so. I guess I saw it at 8:30pm on week night so was glad it ended when it did so i could get home to sleep. I'm not a youngster anymore.  Having said that, more Avengers would have been a good thing! Quote: Quote: 2. Characterisation and interaction gave the movie heart and substance. Everyone, even some minor characters, got a story arc and a moment. I’d have preferred a snarkier wise-assier Hawkeye, but given the storyline there’s reasons for him not to be. Quote: He felt like he was coming around towards the end, so perhaps in the sequel he can be a little more of a smart-ass.Given he was out-of-it for most of the movie I'm not surprised his personality was not at the fore. Though it would be good to see this developed in the next movie. I too was waiting for a "Goldilocks" comment that never came, I have to say. Quote: Quote: 3. The visuals are almost universally excellent. A few slightly ropy CGI moments are masked by the sheer sweep of the whole, and some sequences are remarkable. Costume-wise, only Cap’s outfit was a slight let-down. Why bother changing from the original if you can’t make it look better on screen? What’s wrong with proper chain mail anyway?Quote: I have to say, I was quite happy with the 3D in this one (which is good because the only options at my local multiplex were 3D and Imax 3D.) I though the battle through the streets of NY looked pretty great as a result of it. I was really quite shocked at how much they had going on compared to every other Marvel film in terms of blockbuster action.The alien-craft-sky-snake things were neat they way they swam through the air. I really like the Thor-IM fight scene in the mountain region. I also like the way they slowed down certain aspects of some of the fights - i was like looking at a kick-ass panel in a comic book (or as close as you can get in a movie). I want to go and watch it again for that. Quote: I liked Cap's outfit a lot more when he lost the mask. I'd be fine with him staying without it in sequels, myself. It just doesn't make much sense when neither Widow or Hawkeye use any kind of face/head protection.Agreed. Quote: Quote: 4. The rank-and-file villains were generic and forgettable but offered the level of menace they were supposed to. Their battle machines were ideal for showcasing a variety of hero smackdowns. Loki managed to be a creditable threat and a great foil for each of the heroes – he even got a one-on-one dialogue moment with each of them. The post-credits behind the scenes major adversary will be a game-changer.Quote: I quite liked Loki in this. His army made for fun cannon fodder. I would hope in the sequel that they would give us a few more villains for the team to face off against, though. I'm not talking about a random jumble of unrelated villains, but some substantial henchmen that can be more than just fodder. Whedon gave us this, in a way, but I can't really say more without spoilers.I won't spoil who it is - even though his thread is now marked spoils, but I would wonder how they can pull him off as the next vision without it being a similar "demi-god from myth" type thing. Which may seem like too much of a repeat of Loki. I have to admit my jaw dropped when I saw him grin but. Didn't yours? They could easily retcon-tie-in Carol Danvers as Ms Marvel to using him as a villain too, to bring in another female avenger next time. That got me thinking though - what other villains could show up next? I was thinking: Ultron: pros - we could get Hank and Jan too! cons - more silvery robot CGI would be too similar to the aliens in this one perhaps. Kang: It's Kang! Nuff said. Masters of Evil: Now this has potential! How cool would Radioactive Man look on the big screen? Quote: Quote: 5. The Hulk stole the show at the end. Quote: I've seen the suggestion that the popularity of the Hulk in this film is convincing Marvel to change their position and perhaps do another Hulk solo film after all. While I'm definitely more interested in one after seeing him in The Avengers, I have to wonder if perhaps less isn't more when it comes to the Hulk. Maybe he's like the wacky neighbor on a sitcom... great as a supporting character, but the show falls apart if you make him the focus.The world does not need another Hulk movie. Quote: Quote: 6. The movie is very quotable.Quote: I actually thought it was quite restrained coming from Whedon... I actually expected more quips, especially after seeing reviews mention how funny it was. Quote: Quote: 7. There were a couple of things I’d have liked to see in there that would have made my enjoyment complete, but given how much good stuff there was in there, including some only-for-the-comics-fans bits, it seems churlish to carp.Quote: We may have to open the spoiler-filled thread to get into the various comic nods that were there.Here. I agree Jarvis was not Jarvis was a bit of a let down, but then on reflection I'm glad they gave him a nod at all, I guess. I miss the Pyms not being in it. Quote: Quote: 8. In terms of pacing and content, this movie has relatively few slow-wow “widescreen†moments of the type comics tried to deliver with two-page panels that were popular in the early post-Busiek era, and hardly any of the talking-heads Bendis era material. In its frenetic, packed, detailed, multi-scene, heart-stirring, roller-coaster style this film was Perez all the way. Except for the big impacts, which were Kirby.Quote: Visually, I really liked it. I was a bit worried from early screenshots that it would all feel too much like sets, especially the SHIELD stuff, but by and large it worked for me.Agreed. I hope there is less SHIELD stuff in the future though. Quote: Quote: In conclusion: A very enjoyable film, well constructed and well delivered, that will have plenty of repeat viewing value. This is the movie Avengers fans always felt their heroes deserved and it has raised the bar on superhero films – and yet there’s still the room for an even better sequel. Quote: I'm curious where they go with the sequel. The post credit scene doesn't seem like it would offer something different enough.There is nothing that says they even have to use that next time, right? Still, it will be interesting to see how/if they do. | |||||||
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