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CrazySugarFreakBoy!

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Subj: Re: CSFB! and Boss Deadeyes:
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 at 10:14:18 am EDT (Viewed 3 times)
Reply Subj: CSFB! and Boss Deadeyes:
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 at 07:56:53 pm EDT (Viewed 643 times)



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    Getting the two of these guys together could be very interesting for a number of reasons.



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    What often gets overlooked, by me as much as anybody else, is that there should be a bit of a passive-aggressive obfuscating-stupidity streak with Dream when he's dealing with people in positions of authority whom he doesn't necessarily despise.


Noted.


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    Deadeyes is a crime lord, yes, but he literally embodies all sorts of classically cinematic gangster tropes. Dream would have to respect that, as a kid who grew up watching The Godfather and Scarface, even though Deadeyes and his Prohibition-era gang would probably be mildly amused by the fact that Dream sees the Corleones and Tony Montana as interchangeable (it'd be funny if Deadeyes' modern-day driver, Carlos, started quoting Scarface lines with Dream, only to have Deadeyes smirk at them in confusion and say, "I'm guessing this is a generational thing").


Deadeyes is definitely more Bogart/Edward G. Robinson.


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    Dream would be pleasant in an oh-so-Tom-Baker way with Deadeyes — feet up on his furniture, asking for soda and acting like he owned the place, but all the same, still smiling and cheerful and genuinely enjoying the company of these gangsters. Dream kind of plays up his white trash side when he's dealing with people who might be expecting more politeness from him, but it wouldn't be aggressively rude or mean so much as kind of good-naturedly fucking with them.


I imagine Deadeyes would seem to put up with it right up to dropping his bombshell, whatever that was.


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    Plus, when Dream is dealing with criminals who follow genre tropes, but don't really have a philosophical agenda, he tends to see them more as working-class bad guys. Again, there's that bit of blue collar in Dream's sympathy that never quite rubbed off.


I tend to classify my villains in one of two columns - the ones that have some redeeming features that can make then almost, but only almost, heroic in some circumstances, and the ones that are really horrid bastards. The former class includes Deadeyes, Black, Thugos, and VelcroVixen. The latter include the Parody Master, the Necromancer General, Black's great-grandfather, and Sage Grimpenghast.

Of the former class, I tend to work on the "one bad day" principle - that but for one bad day, under different circumstances in a different world, these guys might have been heroes. Dr Doom, Magneto, and Luthor all fit in this category. Conversely, some heroes might once have been a day away from villainy: Batman, Daredevil, Reed Richards and Iron Man come to mind.







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