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Subj: I have to agree with most of your points, although I was still REALLY impressed by it.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 09:58:32 pm EDT (Viewed 403 times)
Reply Subj: Since I finally saw it and nobody else has been talking about it: The Dark Knight (no spoilers)
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 02:00:30 pm EDT

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I thought it was good, but not nearly as great as others seem to find it. I'd say the two biggest drawbacks that kept me from loving it were an emotional disconnect from everything that was happening, and the believability of the world.

To deal with the second issue first, the film paints perhaps the most realistic take on a super-hero's world yet. The film has a gritty, real world quality... and I found that somewhat distracting, as it caused me to apply real world logic to the whole thing. Plus, when you strip enough of the mythic away, the idea of regular police officers teaming up with a guy in a bat suit is pretty damn silly.

As for the first criticism, it's simply not a movie that is easy to warm up to. The only characters I have any real affection for are Alfred, Lucius and Gordon. While I didn't actively dislike Rachel in this movie as I did in the first, I was mostly indifferent to her, making the quasi-love triangle more of an exercise in plotting than anything else.

That said, it was an entertaining adventure. The plot has many elements that you could pick at, but is engrossing enough to make them forgivable. The performances are all top notch, and Ledger really is quite interesting as the Joker. I may warm up to this one more once I see it again on video, as I ultimately did with "Batman Begins".



The "CSI: Gotham" nature of exhaustively grounding even the most improbable plot devices in potentially attainable technology and forensic science was very clever and fun, but, yeah, it did kind of highlight the disconnect between the deliberately non-stylized style of this world's reality, versus the costume-wearing vigilantes and criminals who appeared in it. That being said, I actually quite liked the idea that the Joker would be deemed a "terrorist" in the post-9/11 world, as well as the questions about security-versus-liberty that the story was smart enough to acknowledge, at least.

Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman were all reliably top-notch. Christian Bale needs some work - he's both a bit too bland as Bruce Wayne and a bit over-the-top as Batman. In particular, the growly voice simply DOES NOT WORK. He should have been studying Kevin Conroy's voiceover work in the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm Batman cartoons instead. Aaron Eckhardt as Harvey Dent, however, was remarkably affecting, even though I knew, of course, the fate that would befall him. Even as Two-Face, he played it just straight enough for me to buy off on it. I'll agree, though, that Maggie Gyllenhaal, who can be sizzling in the right role, was remarkably dull here.

I got a kick out of all the little touches, like "Commissioner Loeb," Eric Roberts as Sal Maroni (Jesus, all they need now is Rupert Thorne in the next film, and they'll have the trifecta of non-costumed Gotham mobsters whom I never would have expected to see in a Batman film), Michael Jai White (ha ha, Spawn!) as the mob boss that the Joker pisses off, and "Tiny" Lister (DEEBO!!!) as the convict who turns out to be The Moral Voice Of The Everyman in the movie.

Heath Ledger as the Joker ... Jesus Fucking Christ, this was tragically golden. I submit that Ledger's Joker constitutes the best portrayal I've ever seen of the character, in ANY medium, including the comic books that served as its source material. In the movie theater, I found myself laughing out loud and nearly shouting, "HOLY SHIT," at least once every time he appeared onscreen, starting from the "disappearing pencil trick" forward, and in that same theater, I was far from alone in that regard. The multiple-choice versions of his past, and the contention that anyone can be turned into someone like him, with just the right push, all hearkened back to the best of Alan Moore's writing in "The Killing Joke," and when he called himself an "Agent of Chaos," I just about lost my shit completely. \:\)

My dream picks for the next film: David Tennant as the Riddler (he's already expressed an interest in the role), serving as Batman's nemesis, with Oswald Cobblepot as Bruce Wayne's business rival.




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