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Reply Subj: Vinnie and Liu Xi Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 at 08:20:47 am EST (Viewed 4 times) | |||||||
Finally getting around to finishing up replies after being stuck on jury duty. Quote: The Hooded Hood pretty much has a plan for everybody, so it's not like she's singled out. But in fact Liu Xi is one of the principal characters that the Hood so far hasn't worked over that much. Even in the present team, the Hood had impacted far more on Hatty, CSFB!, Vizh, G-Eyed, Mumphrey, and of course CZ. From the Hood's perspective it's a compliment that he's got Liu Xi in his sights, although she wouldn't see it that way.It doesn't mean she'll be remotely happy with it anyhow. Quote: Liu Xi and the Hood have a little dialogue in the next chapter, albeit not to the point. Liu Xi has more urgent issues to discuss.She has a lot of issues, I'll await discovering which one she's discussing with him. Quote: Nor is Vinnie Xander. Xander was/is far more experienced and calculating and a good deal more ruthless, as Liu Xi can attest. Vinnie is on one hell of a learning curve trying to keep up with the job he;s been dumped with. It has put a massive target on him along with overwhelming responsibility. That's one reason he agreed to join the LL, so he's got a bit of cover. It;s also why he's struggling in his relationship with Liu Xi, because he doesn't want her at ground zero when it goes down and he doesn't want the relationship to be all about her useful powers.Faite would say Vinnie reacts a lot out of fear. He often tries to fix things too early because he's afraid of enduring what will happen if he waits longer. And that leads to him making bad compromises. She also knows it's not really his fault, because that's something that comes from experience. Inexperience means not having confidence you can handle what comes later. Quote: One might consider that Liu Xi joining the LL at the Hood's behest anyway may have something to do with keeping Vinnie alive anyhow.Possibly. Quote: I don't think Vinnie has much hubris, but like many people new to a big job he's unsure where to draw lines. He doesn't want to do it Xander's way, but that way worked. Can he find another method? Dare he risk it given the consequences of screwing up?He really needs to eventually realize that Xander did things the way he did because he preferred to go it alone. Vinnie has friends, powerful ones, and should seek their help. That's where the "hubris" observation comes from - the belief that only he has the power and/or ability. Quote: This makes sense. Cleone and Liu Xi have some common background. Both were effectively enslaved, both were ceded to an owner who intended to use them sexually, both escaped and ended up linked to powerful men who both tried to protect them and needed their support. Their experiences of how well that worked out differ thereafter.Liu Xi, though, went one step further trying to make herself no longer need protection from anyone, and she'd like to keep it that way. Quote: Same with Vinnie in the job. Vinnie has to be ready - is supposed to be ready - to take on and take down whoever the sorcerer supreme is supposed to stop. That theoretically includes the Lair Legion, Liu Xi Xian, the Hooded Hood, and any cosmic power. It's a tall order and not one he could manage. The hardest one to stop would be the Psychic Samurai, because she'd see it coming. Quote: On the other hand, Xander may still be playing a long game behind the scenes to do exactly that if he feels it neccessary. His maxim was always "don't be there when it happens".I though that was Dr. Who. Quote: From a personality poin of view, Vinnie isn't really confident enough to work closely with powerful and experienced females without difficulty. He's still an occasional gibbering wreck with Liu Xi and she's closer to his age and learning level.Lara Night is even more entry-level for working with than Liu Xi - she is very friendly and easy to work with. She finds clumsy geekiness kind of cute, but is intimidated and turned off by inflexibility (which is why she's intimidated by Hatman), so she may be conflicted about him. She's also only a few years older than Liu Xi, so I thought she was closer to Vinnie's age. I guess Vinnie isn't as old as I thought. Quote: Factor in too that Vinnie's other experience of a powerful female ally was, in fact, Kerry. Admittedly they were under an aphrodisiac effect at the time but it has left him wary of getting close to allies of the opposite sex. A complication is this is a previous prophecy that the foretold Celestian Madonna (or one potential-future version of her) is the child of Liu Xi and Danny Lyle and things get very tangled.He would find the opposite in Lara. She's extremely careful. As a teenager she was part of a small super-team, and kept her distance and decorum through the whole thing. Quote: Vinnie wouldn't ask anyone to be his familiar. He doesn't see himself as that kind of mage. Even a stone hamster would be too great a commitment.Not even a cosmically aware cat? Quote: Vinnie's had this choice before, to remain comfortable and safe with a partner (his ex-fiancee) or to lose everything to do the right thing, and he chose the latter. He'd make the same choice again, no matter how much it hurt or what it cost him.If he does, poor Liu Xi will be beyond hurt. Broken even. And then Yuki will kick his butt. Quote: Quote: Kind of funny to think that young Liu Xi is more mature in that respect, because she's a firm believer in "together we are stronger".Quote: I like my characters to have blind spots and limitations. This is one of Vin's.Here's some more, then: - Liu Xi's blind spot is being too easily angered by things related to her painful past. - Lara Night's blind spot is, oddly enough, keeping her distance from people and forming only limited bonds of friendship. - Faite's blind spot is hating to interfere, and waiting far too long to deal with things sometimes. - Yuki's blind spot is being overly protective, and taking on too much herself, even when it's not necessary. - Chiaki's blind spot would be believing in herself and no one else, and avoiding offering help when it's "not her place" - often placing manners and rank ahead of conscience. | |||||||
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