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Reply Subj: Re: Vinnie and Liu Xi Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 at 10:27:27 pm EST (Viewed 874 times) | |||||||
Quote: Finally getting around to finishing up replies after being stuck on jury duty. Ouch. Quote: Quote: From the Hood's perspective it's a compliment that he's got Liu Xi in his sights, although she wouldn't see it that way.Quote: It doesn't mean she'll be remotely happy with it anyhow.Absolutely. Here's a question: given that the Hood is effectively using the child of the woman Liu Xi murdered as a hostage for Liu Xi's compliance on the LL, would Liu Xi remain silent or would she eventually reveal the threat she's under to the team? Quote: Quote: Liu Xi and the Hood have a little dialogue in the next chapter, albeit not to the point. Liu Xi has more urgent issues to discuss.Quote: She has a lot of issues, I'll await discovering which one she's discussing with him.Actually, as it turns out that will now be Untold Tales #354. An extra issue muscled in, which does cover some Vinnie/Liu Xi stuff informed by our present discussion. Quote: Faite would say Vinnie reacts a lot out of fear. He often tries to fix things too early because he's afraid of enduring what will happen if he waits longer. And that leads to him making bad compromises. She also knows it's not really his fault, because that's something that comes from experience. Inexperience means not having confidence you can handle what comes later.There's some truth in that. On the other hand, Vinnie has a very "seat-of-the-pants" approach to magical stuff that is part of his effectiveness, so that emotion-led improvisation does work for him a lot. Quote: Quote: I don't think Vinnie has much hubris, but like many people new to a big job he's unsure where to draw lines. He doesn't want to do it Xander's way, but that way worked. Can he find another method? Dare he risk it given the consequences of screwing up?Quote: He really needs to eventually realize that Xander did things the way he did because he preferred to go it alone. Vinnie has friends, powerful ones, and should seek their help. That's where the "hubris" observation comes from - the belief that only he has the power and/or ability.Vinnie knows, however, that even those powerful friends' views and alliegances might be slightly different. He doesn't feel he can afford to assume anybody is absolutely on his side all the time. In part that's due to his upbringing, but it's also because now he may have to make big judgement calls. So if he's allied to someone who may object to him sacrificing millions to save billions, or who isn't comfortable with him making decisions on behalf of a whole race, or whatever, he can't be too close to them in case they oppose him. The other issue is that the sorcerer supreme comes with enemies, as well as Vinnie's personal rogues gallery. Many of those enemies would be pleased to strike at or even suborn allies and support mechanisms they feel the sorcerer surpeme has come to rely upon too heavily. Quote: Quote: Cleone and Liu Xi have some common background.Quote: Liu Xi, though, went one step further trying to make herself no longer need protection from anyone, and she'd like to keep it that way.I'm sure that's one reason Vinnie admires her. Quote: The hardest one to stop would be the Psychic Samurai, because she'd see it coming.Any plan from any enemy who knows Chiaki would have to take that into account. The trick would be to arrange a situation where Chiaki would have to enter peril knowing it might kill her because her honour or compassion requires it of her. Quote: Quote: On the other hand, Xander may still be playing a long game behind the scenes to do exactly that if he feels it neccessary. His maxim was always "don't be there when it happens".Quote: I though that was Dr. Who.I don't think so. He is pretty much always there when it happens, usually running from the detonation. Quote: Quote: From a personality poin of view, Vinnie isn't really confident enough to work closely with powerful and experienced females without difficulty. He's still an occasional gibbering wreck with Liu Xi and she's closer to his age and learning level.Quote: Lara Night is even more entry-level for working with than Liu Xi - she is very friendly and easy to work with. She finds clumsy geekiness kind of cute, but is intimidated and turned off by inflexibility (which is why she's intimidated by Hatman), so she may be conflicted about him.Quote: She's also only a few years older than Liu Xi, so I thought she was closer to Vinnie's age. I guess Vinnie isn't as old as I thought.I'd put him in his very early twenties, a couple of years older than the Juniors. Quote: Quote: Factor in too that Vinnie's other experience of a powerful female ally was, in fact, Kerry. Quote: He would find the opposite in Lara. She's extremely careful. As a teenager she was part of a small super-team, and kept her distance and decorum through the whole thing.There was that incident with Lara and CSFB!, as I recall. Quote: Quote: Vinnie wouldn't ask anyone to be his familiar. He doesn't see himself as that kind of mage. Even a stone hamster would be too great a commitment.Quote: Not even a cosmically aware cat?Definitely not that cat. The cat is more likely to end up in Vinnie's rogues gallery. Quote: Quote: Vinnie's had this choice before, to remain comfortable and safe with a partner (his ex-fiancee) or to lose everything to do the right thing, and he chose the latter. He'd make the same choice again, no matter how much it hurt or what it cost him.Quote: If he does, poor Liu Xi will be beyond hurt. Broken even. And then Yuki will kick his butt.If Vinnie hurt Liu Xi (because it was "neccessary") then he'd certainly let Yuki kick him. Quote: Quote: I like my characters to have blind spots and limitations. This is one of Vin's.Quote: Here's some more, then:Quote: - Liu Xi's blind spot is being too easily angered by things related to her painful past.It's a great dramatic flaw for a character to have. The Hooded Hood knows just how to turn the knife with this one. Quote: - Lara Night's blind spot is, oddly enough, keeping her distance from people and forming only limited bonds of friendship.Quote: - Faite's blind spot is hating to interfere, and waiting far too long to deal with things sometimes.Quote: - Yuki's blind spot is being overly protective, and taking on too much herself, even when it's not necessary.I think she's also quite impetuous and cocky, which serves her well almost all the time, except when it doesn't. Quote: - Chiaki's blind spot would be believing in herself and no one else, and avoiding offering help when it's "not her place" - often placing manners and rank ahead of conscience.Speaking of the Hooded Hood, his big dramatic flaw is his ego, which tells him that he alone can rectify the wrongs of the Parodyverse and instate a multiverse of just order under his absolute control. | |||||||
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