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Subj: And now with added content from the thread below.
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 04:37:38 pm EST (Viewed 2 times)
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      Vicki's relationships with supervillains are very controlled. She uses sexuality as part of her arsenal, but very rarely with other villains. The exeption is "boss level" villains - she's a "full service" kind of right hand hench and she does seem to go for the leader types. The Hooded Hood is the only eligible archvillain she's worked for who hasn't slept with her.



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    When I came up wit this mini-story idea, THAT'S what cemented what I thought her reaction to Lara might be. When they were on that clockwork ship, and then the dimensional dreadnaught, it occurred to me that VV probably thought of Lara as kind of an enigma. The blonde made no attempt to be high-and-mighty or fight with anyone.


VV does appreciate professionalism.


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    And from Lara's point of view, she saw in VV someone who puts up with a lot of crap to stay in her place in life, and who can never let her guard down. She wondered how awful that would be if she were stuck in the same situation. That's what made her reach out like that.


Vicki's a non-powered female who keeps up with - and field leads - the elite supervillain-for-hire outfit in the Parodyverse, their "Masters of Evil"-style varsity. She has to be smarter, more prepared, tougher, and more dangerous than any of them to survive. That's almost Batman levels of preparedness (and a large range of appropriate gadgetry).

VV is a confident career criminal but she's not averse to talking with someone who approaches her in a decent manner. She's less likely to try her "wiles" on a female superhero than a male one (e.g. Jarvis, CSFB! DBS, Danny Lyle)



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    It did help that VV reminded Lara a lot of the Psychic Samurai, someone who worked among criminals and survived without super-powered fighting skills. But she also knows that Chiaki had stable friends she could look to.


VV comes from that long tradition of beautiful "bad girl" criminals with a yearning for the good guy that includes The Spirit's P'Gell, Batman's Catwoman, and Iron Man's original portrayal of the Black Widow. None of them have many close relationships.


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    Chiaki believes strongly in the grey area, too, and would have no objection to what Lara is attempting. But she would warn Lara not to take it personally if VV turns on her for her own benefit. Not because she believes VV to be evil; just opportunistic. So she would tell Lara also that she might have to be open to giving VV a lot of second chances.


Since the time VV became a Purveyor of Peril she's only ever initiated plans against the heroes under contract, not of her own initiative. She'd have to have firm orders to turn on Lara.

One of the reason VV prefers working for the Hood is that he tends not to issue orders that she finds distasteful.





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    Lara would explain [to Jay] that she feels it's rude to have an ulterior motive while offering friendship. That if it leads to VV reforming, that's awesome, but it shouldn't be the goal.


I doubt Hatty would much disagree with that, but might add that real friendship would include helping VV reform.


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    I do think Mac would be wary, but I also think he definitely would approve of not considering VV "lost" and giving up on her.


I'm sure he would approve of Lara's initiative.


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    Remember also that Lara is far more brave with this because she knows VV has little chance of being able to harm her, so she can afford to take a little more risk.


That might be an underestimation given the levels of resource VV has available to her. In a sudden face-off VV would have no chance, but with planning and a trap she might be able to cause Lara serious trouble. VV has access to Al B. Harper-level tech and even psionics and magic that might be deployed to level the playing field.

The comics parallel is probaly thinking about how Batman - or Batgirl - might prep to take down an energy-wielder of Lara's magnitude. I have no doubt that Batman would somehow find a way. I don't think that VV is in his class, but she's not too far off it.

The other danger that some of the LL might worry about is if VV deploys some of her Purveyor team-mates, a few of whom have powers that might match or counter Lara's abilities.



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    Yuki might be worried that the Hooded Hood set the whole thing up to get VV into the Lair Mansion to do something really subtle. Subtle, rather than an outright murder by VV in the mansion, because the detective in her estimates that VV would want to be able to enter the Lair Mansion multiple times, rather than throw everything away on a one-shot gambit.


Yuki would probably recognise that the Hood has wandered into the Lair Mansion on a number of occasions, one of the few villains who seems able to breach security there with relative impunity. So access there might not be an objective.

There are plenty of other things he might want VV to arrange for him, from information and misdirection to arranging Lara to be placed in particlar circumstances at particular times.

There is also the question of Lara's link to the Baroness' new henchwoman, Cathode. The Hood might well wish for an "in" on Cathode, both psychologically and regarding addressing her metahuman abilities.



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    Also note that it's unlikely Lara would bring VV into the mansion and just let her walk around unattended for a day. Both because she's not 100% sure of VV yet, and also because she knows any friendship right now is very fragile, and someone like G-Eyed or Nats confronting VV in the halls would be disastrous.


It is unlikely that VV would trust enough for a visit the the Lair Mansion. Maybe the Bean and Donut.


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      Argument follows.



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    Lara would probably walk away from an argument from the two of them.


They'd keep arguing between themselves. G-Eyed and Nats have a long history of not really getting on with each other. It's possibly the greatest rift between two members of the Lair Legion.

[Meanwhile, continuing from UT#359 at http://parodyverse.strike-two.com/app/show.php?rpy=parodyverse-2017011504141856&layout=thread]



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      That's overlooking the massive contributions to science, medicine, and astronomy that churchmen have made throughout history.



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    I meant that the entire fear of science and technology in general is based on the thought that each level of technology takes us further from the "paradise" of Eden and into a world where we worship science and technology instead. Which I don't mind, but some religious types have a problem with that.


They should read their damn book, then. The story starts with a garden and ends with a city - it's entirely about progress and "growing up".

But yes, that's an idea some hold. They'd probably be horrifed to find that the theology comes not from Christian scripture but from the Graeco-Roman doctrines of a "golden age" and from Eastern religions that view time as cyclical.

There is some hint of the lost paradise thing in The Book of Genesis and the Jewish Torah that interprets it with the diminishing lifespans of the patriarchs, from Methuselah's thousand years down to contemporary "threescore years and ten", but mostly even that book is about God promising not a return to Eden but the coming of a Kingdom.

Where that sits with the Western European Catholic church of the late middle ages and their suspicion of some aspects of physics and astronomy I'm not quite sure. Perhaps some aspect of it was about control or information and technology. But once the printing press was out there it was game over.



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      It's specially designed to be ambiguous, actually. Is it a throne? Is it just a really nice chair? What is he trying to say with it?



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    Yuki would say he's compensating for something. She would say it to his face, too.


He would request her not to utter indiscreet trivialities in an attempt to buoy her chosen projected persona in his presence; it is unworthy of her.


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      I suppose in the most recent case she might have also borrowed 1/3 of the Doomherald's pants, but as I see it that reconstruction thing is very tricky anyway.



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    Yuki would say that he always did want to get her into his pants. She would say that to his face, too.


Well Exu had a sense of humour.






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