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Subj: Re: I finally got to see it yesterday... Really liked it! Thoughts and spoilers inside:
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 at 04:30:36 am EDT (Viewed 481 times)
Reply Subj: I finally got to see it yesterday... Really liked it! Thoughts and spoilers inside:
Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 at 01:42:20 am EDT (Viewed 2 times)

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It was definitely a very different feeling Marvel movie... They mixed up the story structure a good bit, and while there was a lot of action it felt like the true focus always remained on the conversations between such scenes. By nature of the story, it wasn't necessarily rousing, but I did find myself coming back to it long after I returned home. it was a very rich and filling story, despite how unresolved things may seem at the end of it.

Of course, I need to comment on the Vision. I still can't believe that Joss Whedon somehow failed to illustrate his main power set suitably in Age of Ultron... That's rectified here nicely as his first appearance in the film is walking through a wall, then awkwardly apologizing for the breach in etiquette (hey, the door *was* open...). He is definitely the powerhouse with Thor and Hulk absent, and despite seeming like the coolest head present, he also seems to cause the most damage (although Giant Man gives him a run for his money in that regard.) I will say that it's a bit of a problem in that it's harder to justify why he is not doing more to actually win the fight... Whenever he pops up in the brawl, he seems mostly unstoppable and does something major, then the camera cuts and he's out of the fight for a while again. I suppose we can assume that when he's not being shown that Wanda is kicking his ass. Regardless, I doubt it's much of a problem to people who weren't so focused on that specific character.

I liked the scenes between Wanda and Vizh quite a bit... Some excellent stuff there. If nothing else, the audience feels their friendship keenly. Their apology to each other was a nice moment as well, followed up by the tragic "friendly fire" incident. I'm hoping that this does get some follow-up in the next Avengers film, as it is too big to sum up with the Vision brooding alone over a chessboard in the end.

I'm not entirely sure why the Vision would stick to the registration side in the long run, mind you. In fact, I think that one of the weaknesses of the film is in leaving so few characters on the "official" team at the end. It's hard to see both sides as equal, as people selling the film tend to suggest, when Iron Man's side ends up being just Stark, Rhodey (who is likely to be recovering for a long time) and the Vision. Black Panther and the Widow changed positions, Spider-man went home. I'm curious as to how they're going to refill the ranks there, if they do at all.

I actually liked this version of Zemo myself, on the condition that this was just an introduction to the character. If indeed this was all they have planned for him, then it is indeed a waste. But I can't help but wonder if they might be looking to do a version of the Thunderbolts, perhaps following the Infinity Guantlet stuff... And bringing Zemo back as Citizen V could be pretty exciting, especially if they use that raft prison to keep alive more villains from future movies to fill out the ranks. I can't help but notice that Atlas uses Pym Particles, Sonbird uses Klaw's tech, MACH 5 is a Spider-man foe, and Moonstone has crossed paths with Ms. Marvel in the comics... That all aligns nicely with the upcoming slate of films between now and the next phase of the MCU. Sure, it's unlikely that they'd match the line-up so closely (they could certainly work the Fixer in near anywhere, although I might consider swapping him out for Sam Rockwell's Justin Hammer instead, and I personally think that they should bring back the Abomination eventually...) but it's interesting to see how easily the pieces for the original Thunderbolts could be set up from where the MCU stands now.

I could probably fill many rambling paragraphs about the film, but I'll save any more for another time. Suffice to say, I quite enjoyed it and recommend it!


Won't lie, Vizh being in the last Avengers movie and this made me think of you, Fake Man.  Glad to see you're still around.






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