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Subj: Re: Just for fun I plotted the five-movie FF cycle.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 at 11:44:57 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Just for fun I plotted the five-movie FF cycle.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 at 01:50:43 am EDT



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    See, the way you lay it out, it certainly sounds like something I would want to see. It really could be its own universe itself, and build to a huge climax much like Marvel is trying to do with the Avengers films.


I don't know what deal Fox has with Marvel for the FF, since it leaves Marvel free to use the Inhumans and Black Panther whereas their X-deal ties up pretty much every mutant who existed at the time of the deal with special exemptions for Wanda and Pietro. I was assuming that an FF movie would have at least shared access to all IPs originating in that title, which given it was the ideas powerhourse for the first five years of the Marvel universe was a hell of a lot.

My givaway Comicon trailer for movie #2 would be the Impossible Man, by the way.



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    Sadly, I just don't see any studio being willing to invest what it would take to make them after the struggles they've had so far. I agree that it's all better as a whole, but I think rehabilitation will probably be required and proving the viability of the characters in some safer bet might be the only path that legitimately leads to the franchise's return to the big screen. Still, maybe Disney will want a big comic adventure in 2030... Assuming they don't just make "Incredibles 3" that year.


2030 might see the development of improved visual effects tech that would make an FF series viable. Every generation of filmakers assumes that it has finally reached the zenith of FX, but really there's still a long way to go.

Of course, the best way to do FF is as a high-budget TV series.



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    I definitely agree that it's a property that requires one to fully embrace the "fantastic" side of it all. Sadly, the script for the latest film originally had much more of that, from what I read. In the original treatment of what would ultimately become this summer's flop (I haven't seen it, I should add), the characters travel to the Negative Zone to harness a power they've somehow discovered there, only to find that the source of it is Galactus. His power cosmic changes them as they flee back through the portal, though Doom is left behind. When the second to third acts roll around, Doom has apparently returned, overthrowing his home nation of Latveria and launching attacks on various high-tech targets... One of which is the Baxter Building where some Moloid project is altered as a distraction, leading to the big FF #1 cover image fight with the monster in the city streets. Eventually, the FF take the fight to Doom where he is assembling a massive weapon and they defeat him, only to find that it's not the "real" Doom... He's still trapped in the Negative Zone where he's now a herald of Galactus, able to project Doombot energy constructs back on Earth. He promised to lead Galactus to Earth in order to get himself home again, but he planned to kill Galactus himself once they arrived and had been doing all of the raids to gather the resources necessary to do so. So it would end with the FF having saved whatever locals were endangered by his attempts, but they had now seemingly doomed the Earth to be devoured by Galactus in the sequel.


That still loses major points for mishandling Doom. The best comics got him right. Do not mess.


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    From what I gather, the studio decided that it all sounded very expensive, and thought "what if we made it really, really grounded and focused most of the movie on the team dealing with getting their powers (from featureless energy) instead? And apparently they shot it all in somebody's basement.


I was deterred by reviews, especially when I heard about some of the story choices such as having "It's clobbering time" be an echo of Ben's childhood abuse. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the source material.






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