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Nitz the Bloody

Member Since: Mon Jun 21, 2004
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Subj: Re: Chiming In
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 05:46:36 am EDT (Viewed 5 times)
Reply Subj: Chiming In
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 at 03:49:00 pm EDT (Viewed 478 times)



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    Regarding these categories, I totally get the opposite and the almost-alike, but where does the manipulator fit in terms of personality conflict? If the opposite represents everything the hero opposes, and the almost-alike represents a twisted mirror of what the hero could be, what does the manipulator represent? To continue the Spider-Man analogy, I'd see Norman as someone who represents the exact opposite of Peter; suave instead of awkward, greedy instead of responsible, and sadistic instead of compassionate.


The Manipulator tends to have roots that go right back to the hero's origin and before. That's why movie retcons have but Osborn indutries experiements behind Parker's radioactive spider, why the Joker killed Batman's parents etc.

The Manipulator is often behind the scenes, pulling the strings, and so tends to touch those parts of the hero's life that elicit dramatic emotional response. In Iron Man's case, the Manipulator doesn't usually seek to kill Iron Man, he wants to take away Stark Industrries, Tony's life work. In Spidey's case with Osborn it's the triumph of power over responsibility as a corporate businessman abuses his position and resources (but yeah, he's only become a Manipulator in his more recent post-death retcon appearances). The Kingpin gives a face to the inexorable grip of organised crime. Immortus interferes with the whole life-direction of heroes for his own twisted ends.







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