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Reply Subj: I always felt the X-Men were a bit hypocritical Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 at 03:39:58 pm EDT (Viewed 386 times) | |||||||
Quote: Before he was an Avenger, I think Spider-Man would have fit the "protecting a world that fears and hates them" schtick of the team pretty well. I agree... Didn't Marvel have a subplot where people believed he actually was a mutant for a while? Quote: I think that adding this many non-mutants is a gimmick for one story arc. I really can't see Spider-Man joining the X-Men and serving on the Avengers. I realize Wolverine does it, but he's a full-time superhero; Spider-Man is supposed to be the everyman trying to hold down a private life and job. I'd say you were right, but then logic doesn't seem to have much sway over Marvel's story decisions these days. I personally still think having him on the Avengers is a tortured premise, considering how much of that time they've had the Avengers be "outlaws". In the times that they weren't outlaws, Spider-man got so messed up living famous and happy that they essentially had to reboot the character. You can either be the indie-rock guy playing seedy bars, or you can be the headliner at stadium concerts. You really can't be both. In any event, I have no idea where the X-men are even based anymore. I find it hard to imagine Peter going to hang out with them regularly though... Quote: I can't see Marvel giving up the rights to every new character to put an X on their shirt in perpetuity though. I would imagine there is a pretty structured list of exactly who was included in the original deal, and at this point I'm sure Marvel wouldn't be adding any more characters to the list.I agree though that Marvel probably isn't allowed to use mutants as they are in their own films, which is a shame since it might have been nice to see Pietro and Wanda join up and cause some mutant controversy in the Avengers sequel (though I guess you could just make them reformed criminals and that would get controversy going). As much as I'd love to see Pietro and Wanda in an Avengers film, I would have to imagine they're tied up with the X-men franchise unless they were specifically withheld. They premiered in X-men, and have been at least recurring characters on every X-men TV series made since that original one. I'd like to think that Marvel was smart enough to keep them in reserve, but considering how much they gave up in that deal I can't really bring myself to count on it. Oddly enough, Rogue premiered in the Avengers, and Mystique in Ms. Marvel, so maybe the deal did go character by character. Quote: I also have to wonder if putting Blade on the X-Men is a way to try and catch on to all of the Twilight-inspired vampire craze, putting Blade front and center much more than he'd be on any other title (other than maybe the Avengers). Personally, I'm rather shocked that nobody has leaped to skewer the Twilight trend with either a Blade or a Buffy movie. There was talk of that one Buffy movie being made without Whedon or any of the cast, but that seemed more like an effort to specifically do another vampire love story. I did hear Wesley Snipes was talking about Blade recently... Quote: I think you really could be onto something here, actually.In pure story-telling terms, I always felt that the X-Men should have had the occasional non-mutant member in the line-up. They want to be accepted by the outside world, but don't allow "regular" superhumans into their club. The Avengers have always welcomed mutants onto the team, so why not have some non-mutants with the X-Men? If you want to be accepted by the outside world you have to allow the outside world in. Having someone like the Thing on the roster for a little while would do wonders for the mutant cause; the Thing looks different from regular humans, IS different from regular humans, but is loved pretty universally. He would bring a real positive image spin to the X-Men. Of course then you get into the whole "token human" argument I suppose and it's the Falcon and Gyrich all over again.  I think there are plenty of non-mutant characters that would not only make sense but make for some good stories if they were to have an extended stay on an X-men line-up. Naturally, the Vision could fit in with both his history of persecution and the fact that Magneto was his father-in-law... Emotionally, he's tied to that world already. The Thing suggestion was also a good fit... it's hard to go from a bigger celebrity position than on the Fantastic Four to the other end of the spectrum. I never read those comics where that mutant team stayed in Asgard for a while... Was that New Mutants? Whatever... I think there's a lot of potential in widening the focus of the X-men books. I just think this one smacks of a stunt at best... | |||||||
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