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Subj: Re: This is why we have Spoilers flags.
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 04:18:58 am EDT (Viewed 2 times)
Reply Subj: This is why we have Spoilers flags.
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 04:31:37 pm EDT (Viewed 491 times)



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    ...for good reason, as you'll see further down.



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      There's a "blame Liu Xi" line due in our very next chapter.



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    Sounds like she's not going to be happy.


I'm not sure if Liu Xi's going to be in this story, which I hope to keep relatively short with a minimal cast of one character per regular poster. On the other hand it's a natural comment for someone to make.


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      Yes. Fortunately forewarned is forearmed. For example, I'd imagine that Yuki could program herself an automatic reminder message every 30 seconds.



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    But then she'll have to remind everyone else every 30 seconds.


There are other techniques the other LL can use. Hatman could use his Thinking Cap. Dancer could improbably be reminded every minute. The Shoggoth's probably naturally immune because his thought processes are so alien anyway. The rest might have to rely on Hallie or simply have notes tied round their necks.


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      It's always a problem. generally posters are open to being contacted and commenting on changes.



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    In some cases though I'd have to find them first. In other cases, most of them so far, the changes I make are generally not liked, so I'm not confident about asking.


I'm lucky there since I created quite a significant proportion of PV cast (over half the characters including villains that appear in Untold Tales were introduced by me) so that gives me plenty of leeway to play with. One reason I encourage posters to develop their own supporting ensembles and their own situations is that it allows them more creative freedom than having to continually reset things to status quo ante.


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      I'm well over a year behind where I expected with PV plots. I'd planned the Carnifax situation to be a short term plotline! I have a whole Sturdy Strolling Beggarly Brotherhhod arc I haven't dared broach yet. I have plots that involve Hatty/Rabid Wolf that I don't really want to progress sans-Jay. And so on.



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    What's funny is, as an aside, I've been placing a few things carefully for some issues relates to these, should they come up. For instance:



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    - Faite's choice for Hatman: I fully expect that if poster-Jay returns, it's very likely, like an 8 out of 10 chance, that he'll just be stopping by to say that (like 90% of the posters who left here) he's concentrating on raising a family and career, and he's not "back". Like AG, he's always sort of taken ownership of his character Hatman. So I fully believe that if he decides to formally take leave of the board, his character will have to leave the Lair Legion and be shelved. I also believe the only reason it hasn't been yet is poster-Jay had in the back of his mind to visit here or email someone to say something but either hasn't gotten around to it, or doesn't know how to say it without feeling bad.


If I had more time to guarantee my own level of activity on the board I'd chase some people up as I have done before. However at the moment I'm using a lot of my "free time" to write things for publication (i.e things I'll get paid for) so I'm not really confident of my ability to sustain such a regular PV input. One reason I've always refrained from selling my fiction output is to keep that as a hobby without this pressure to work on commercial material. Now I've got the problem of balancing hobby writing with "work" writing and I'm not able to handle both very well.

Work-wise I'd like to complete a trilogy of short novels in the next three months. The first is done. The second is 8500 words off completion. The third isn't started. Fortuately I'm ahead of schedule on my contributions to four planned anthologies; those short stories are already turned in. The Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective anthology apparently sold fairly well (the bestselling book the little publishing house Cornerstone have ever had in their ten years existence, so they're keen for a vol 2) so it makes sense to write things for them while they're keen to publish them.



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    So I left the option - in a single scene, Hatman can take Faite's offer and give up his hat-power, retire, and as I believe is in true Hatman style, leave without saying goodbye to start his new life. It beats the other option, which Faite predicted - Hatman being killed first by the Carnifex. Though this might create good motivation for the always cool Psychic Samurai to lose her temper (more on that below) or Liu Xi to go rogue.


I think we need to give Jay a little more leeway.


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    - And speaking of the Carnifex, in this latest arc I've posted, there's a new less self-aware android that SPUD seems to have developed. Since it's their job to be paranoid, it's quite likely they were designed both as a counter to the Lair Legion and to the Carnifex.


It's a bit like SHIELD expecting that their anti-Thor measures will work.

I'm always a bit sceptical about the law enforcement agencies having tech that can actually take down Hero X. If the government has a secret weapon that can take down Superman why didn't they deploy it against Doomsday or Bizarro?



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    - Let's see if you can meet this challenge: Take a guess which things Faite nudged along to alter the present so the Carnifex and his bosses are easier to deal with in the future. There are three so far, and only one of them is obvious (one of them happened a long time ago).


I don't think I can meet that challenge. My eye's been off the ball with the PV for the last year what with one thing and another. I don't have the overview I once had.


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    Also thinly laid-out plots that I've scrapped or shelved in the last few months:



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    - Liu Xi "going rogue". Now she's a complicated person, so she wouldn't just go insane or fight the Lair Legion. Some kind of catalyst would have to convince her that standing idly by is no longer acceptable, and she would start using her power to take matters into her own hands. People would likely get hurt in the process, but only people who deserve it. Of course because of her sentimentality toward the LL, she'd always stay close enough to the curb to avoid having to fight them.


That's an interesting plotline but potentially destructive to the character.


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    - Like I briefly mentioned above, some sort of major catalyst causing the Psychic Samurai to lose her temper. That doesn't sound like much until you realize that true to her name, she sees weaknesses in her foes - and because of her training, anger increases her focus dramatically. Which doesn't amount to that much when she's on the defense, but if she goes on the hunt, she becomes very dangerous.


This is where supporting cast really come in handy, both as a motivator for rage and as a means of "talking the hero down".


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    For instance I thought it might be ironic if the professional hunter The Carnifex is shaken and worried because of this fairly weak relentless human who will hound him from the shadows and never let him be until she kills him. He'd have to worry about sleeping, drinking beverages and eating, or leaving his home. That's the kind of thing that may occur if he kills Hatman, or any of Chiaki's friends for that matter.


I'm not sure the Carnifex works well in that role. It'd probably only work of she could breach his impregnible tower or find a way of destroying his indestructible person. Then the story stops being about Chiaki and becomes the resolution to the Carnifex story.


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    Or another possibility, since you mentioned the Lynchpin, what might happen if Akiko was killed, especially if it was a message to the rest of her organization. Chiaki might just go vigilante, and bodies would start piling up.


I'd avoid doing anything too bad to Vizh's beloved Akiko.

If you're looking at some kind of trigger to justify a Chiaki rampage why not tie it to her protection of the St Jude's Orphanage? A suitably nasty threat to the children there might be a good motivation, if she has to go "dark" to do what's neccessary to save them. We've never really mapped the orphanage's children or cast (except that Mac Fleetwood's an occasional chaplain, G-Eyed's girlfriend Beth used to teach there but doesn't now, and Champagne is a secret contributor of funds). We don't even know the name of the orphanage's director.



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    Anyway, the point is, I had a lot of radical ideas, but I've been shelving them as quickly as I've been making them up to avoid making too many waves. Those are the walls I have to work within.


That's the consequences of a shared universe. I guess the Marvel and DC creators must feel the same way sometime.





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