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Subject: "Endings" Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 05:44:34 pm EST (Viewed 635 times) | |
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killer shrike isn't sure he wants to see what happens next.... |
Subject: Great Googily Moogily! [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 05:54:52 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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CrazySugarFreakBoy! doesn't do well with certain types of meta-fiction Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235 |
Subject: This kind of makes me want to cry ... :~( [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 07:09:52 pm EST (Viewed 505 times) | |
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CrazySugarFreakBoy! Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235 |
Subject: This is very well-written, but, yeah, I'm just kind of super-phobic about endings themselves. :( [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 07:19:22 pm EST (Viewed 578 times) | |
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: I think that one's been done before. [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 07:45:47 pm EST (Viewed 548 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 5.0.2 on MacOS X (0 points) I guess the real questions are whether this story was born out of inspiration or desperation, and if it's going to be continued or if the "ending" of it is ironic (i.e. it becomes yet another unfinished story when everything ends). And are you finishing it or is this prompting others to take a shot? From my perspective, I haven't been able to come up with a *compelling* story. I have stories in progress, but for every one of them I take a second look and wonder: Is this compelling enough to bring people back to comment and write stuff? So far that second critical look has been shelving a lot of stuff. As soon as I find the right inspiration - unless it's too late - I'll try to put up a central storyline of my own, in the absence of any other. | ||
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Subject: I believe Nothing happens next... but then nobody will be there to see it anyway. [Re: killer shrike isn't sure he wants to see what happens next....] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 08:04:55 pm EST (Viewed 564 times) | |
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Visionary Moderator wasn't looking to depress anyone... Sorry. Member Since: Sat Jan 03, 2004 Posts: 2,131 |
Subject: I haven't heard any fat ladies singing yet... [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 08:05:52 pm EST (Viewed 528 times) | |
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Subject: Probably on the Simpsons. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 08:15:55 pm EST (Viewed 628 times) | |
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Quote: I guess the real questions are whether this story was born out of inspiration or desperation, and if it's going to be continued or if the "ending" of it is ironic (i.e. it becomes yet another unfinished story when everything ends).Well, as Kirk noted, it's a very meta-textual kind of tale, but when your characters are at least semi-aware of the nature of their universe it's hard for these kinds of stories not to be. Quote: And are you finishing it or is this prompting others to take a shot?I'm not sure I *want* to write the last of it, even though I know exactly what happens. The main point of the story is to put off that point as long as possible, while also acknowledging that perhaps some closure has been earned by these characters. For me, the most important line is Visionary's preference to believe that everyone is exactly where he left them, and that he will go back to them... or rather, that we the readers will go back to them, at least. As Lisa noted, this isn't the story where Visionary dies. He did that long before this story. This is a jump to some far flung future. Of course, if the Hooded Hood should bring about the end of everything in a story tomorrow, well... I think of it like the argument from "Inherit the Wind". How much time passed between the destruction of everything we use to measure time and the onset of Nothing taking over? What's it even matter if there's nobody left to mark time? Quote: From my perspective, I haven't been able to come up with a *compelling* story. I have stories in progress, but for every one of them I take a second look and wonder: Is this compelling enough to bring people back to comment and write stuff? So far that second critical look has been shelving a lot of stuff.As soon as I find the right inspiration - unless it's too late - I'll try to put up a central storyline of my own, in the absence of any other. I have a bunch of "starts" on my computer, many of which haven't been posted. We'll see if they make it in. In the meantime, I'm giving myself an opening to clear out some unfinished business and bring some closure on more than a decade with characters I care about. | ||
L! Location: Seattle, Washington Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,038 |
Subject: Not who I thought would be at the end of it all... [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 09:10:50 pm EST (Viewed 508 times) | |
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In the back of my mind I always had that Chad & Ronnie were the last people around but that's just me & this is your story. | ||
killer shrike warns prospective readers they may want to brush up on their Kirby first |
Subject: Since we're already discussing endings.... [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 09:27:32 pm EST (Viewed 5 times) | |
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What Would Have Been Kambyon the Kruel was going to beat the crap out of the Carnifex, who then would have left Earth after what he was looking for: IAGOS (short for Infernal Analytical Game Operating System), sort of a sentient Mother Box Expy with the memories of the Apocalyptsian Torture God Torkamahda, showed up. The two would have set off to find Kambyon’s Signature Weapon, the Power Pugil, in the Skree space ship they hijacked, only to have a comet thrown at them by a vengeful Carnifex. An injured and amnesiac Kambyon would have been captured by the Wiiponeers of Qwiird, and forced to fight in their gladiatorial games until IAGOS saved him. Then Kambyon would have been attacked by the Sisters Sanguine, servants of Dark Thugos who get stronger the more they bleed (no menstrual jokes, please) in addition to being two of his old girlfriends. After that he would have gone to the Home World of the Est’B Uy’B, a race of tentacled mollusks who outfitted half the known universe with their technology. Kambyon’s purpose for traveling there was to claim his Power Pugil, which the Estâ€ÂB Uy’B were using to supply energy to their vast empire. After taking the Pugil and causing an intergalactic economic collapse he would have been made a victim of a virus created by Professor Pandemonium (another Newer God) that would have made him mortal and far less monstrous in appearance.. I think the plan then was to have him meet Shazara Pel, fight off a variety of assassins (including if I could work him in Squibb) out to claim a bounty set on him by the Est’B Uy’B, reunite with his hated brother Nymrod of New Eden, and ultimately travel to the Home of Retired Gods (that place Woopsa the Rakasha runs) to find his mother Hel-El who was the Death Goddess of whatever the Parodyverse versions of the Daxxamites were called (Maxellians?). She would have given him the location of a powerful starship called “Naglfar†which he would have tried to use to conquer Apocalyspe. But wait! It turned out his father Dark Thugos was behind Kambyon’s entire ordeal to this point. He uses nano machines to return Kambyon’s divinity and control him, gaining access to “Naglfar†and use it as the lead ship in his fleet to attack the Silver Armada that protects The Font, the source of all Creativity in the Parodyverse. Thugos wanted to enter the Font and speak the Anti Plot Expression (which he had hidden in the mind of one Killer Shrike), thus assuming its role in the Parodyverse and reshaping it in his own nightmarish image. Fortunately reality would be saved by an alliance of all the alien races Kambyon had screwed over, Prosody (the Metron like guy in the floating space chair), Shrike, and Amy Aston, with the latter two totally having done it at some point during their involvement in the story, probably while cruising around the universe in the aforementioned space chair. As for Kambyon, he would atone in part for his crimes by using his Power Pugil to reform our sun after Thugos caused it to prematurely super nova with a device called the Star Burster in order to keep the heroes of Earth out of his hair while he made his big play. Anyway, everything would end with Kambyon trapped in the center of the sun with only the word of the Hooded Hood that by keeping humanity alive he would be ultimately responsible for Thugos’s downfall. | ||
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Subject: That was downright epic. [Re: killer shrike warns prospective readers they may want to brush up on their Kirby first] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 10:40:53 pm EST (Viewed 568 times) | |
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I've never come close to working out plot as intricate as that...at best I have a few vague ideas to aim for. It's a shame we didn't get to read the full story, because that plot summary was very cool. | ||
Nitz the Bloody looks forward to how this resolves, and hopes it continues Member Since: Mon Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 139 |
Subject: Get thee to a Happy Place! [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 11:52:37 pm EST (Viewed 533 times) | |
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www.rubysworldcomic.com | ||
killer shrike may post his "Mister Epitome: The Return" summary if he gets ambitious |
Subject: As epic as a half page summary of a story ripping off "New Gods" can be. [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 06:48:22 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: The Simpsons had a very long run, though! Kind of like this post... [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 09:57:13 am EST (Viewed 547 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 5.0.2 on MacOS X (0.06 points) Quote: As soon as I find the right inspiration - unless it's too late - I'll try to put up a central storyline of my own, in the absence of any other.Quote: I have a bunch of "starts" on my computer, many of which haven't been posted. We'll see if they make it in. In the meantime, I'm giving myself an opening to clear out some unfinished business and bring some closure on more than a decade with characters I care about.Okay, now I know what the most important question is: Was the posting of "The Ending" an effort to wake up and motivate the PVB posters, or simply acknowledge those that have believed for a while that it's finally time to give up on the PVB and move on? I know that's a loaded question, but it's one I've been thinking about myself. The reason I've been so self-critical about stories I've been wanting to post is, well, look at the replies I got to the last few stories. Now I have to make sure the story is not only good, but spectacular, and is great enough to bring people back to want to read it. That...is a tall order, since I've been struggling to do that when the board was *busy*, now it's more like writing a tale to start over again. And even if I manage it, that's an uphill battle, because while I can't see what anyone else is writing or not for the PVB when they aren't posting, I get the impression I'm the only one still trying. Many of the others have lost inspiration or given up; Ian himself, he writes for pay now, so the quickly diminishing returns of a small message board hardly anyone will remember in a few years is barely worth the effort. I guess what I'm saying is, I'm not sure if I'm persistent and motivated, or just incredibly stupid, refusing to let this place die. On a more personal note, this is kind of the only place I post writings to right now. I suppose it depresses me so much to see it go because if it dies, it marks the failure of something I really wanted to do; I never got the chance to write for a larger audience, for profit or otherwise. To me, it doesn't feel like just the death of another message board, it feels more like the end of my so-called writing career. It's like being fired, utterly failing at something I enjoyed. I wish I knew where else to go with it - I don't. If this board is gone, I'll probably go back to writing World Class for my own web site, but there, nobody *ever* read any of it. It will be really depressing. I do understand that the eventual demise of the PVB is related to the shift toward social networking - topical message boards are dying outright (vendor-owned ones aren't though). Even Comicboards/TVShowboards, I don't think it will last more than a few more years. The problem is, social networking doesn't really provide a venue for writing, because it's not collaborative at all. It's basically like having your own late-night talk show - you have a spotlight, and you have your audience of "friends" (I put that in quotes because they're probably not *really* friends - they're more like followers). As the "star" of the show, you post things that appeal to your audience because otherwise they leave, and your ratings go down. Mostly that encourages people to post things about what they did today, funny observations, pretty much inane stuff. Writing creatively for the internet, in the era of social networking, is a dying art. I don't say that because I hate social networking in particular (I do use Twitter on occasion, I just hate Facebook for all the maintenance it requires). I did look at Facebook for posting writings, and Livejournal, etc, but it just doesn't feel like the right place. It feels more like posting stories at my web site, or when I try posting World Class here - that it's not what people want to read, and I'll be disappointed by the result. So that burning question remains: The day the lights at the PVB go out, where do I go to write? | ||
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Subject: What, the last decaying moments of existence don't count? [Re: Nitz the Bloody] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 12:54:41 pm EST (Viewed 558 times) | |
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Subject: Porky Pig waving at the camera? [Re: L!] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 12:55:30 pm EST (Viewed 539 times) | |
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Subject: Hey, feel free to rip off more stuff I'm not familiar with. Or write out the whole story if you're bored. I'll wait. [Re: killer shrike may post his "Mister Epitome: The Return" summary if he gets ambitious] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 12:56:21 pm EST (Viewed 561 times) | |
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L! Location: Seattle, Washington Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,038 |
Subject: You didn't mention any red rings so no. :) [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 02:39:33 pm EST (Viewed 530 times) | |
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Subject: I know the feeling.... [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 02:53:00 pm EST (Viewed 584 times) | |
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The PV is the only place that I've really ever posted my writing. I tried a few other things a few years back nothing came of those things. I wouldn't really know where to post my stories if the PV went away. I could maybe take my writing elsewhere (maybe my blog) but that might take some backtracking (having to explain some back history, explain who people are, etc.) & rewriting (editing out characters & concept I don't own: The Lair Legion, Parodipolis, etc.) I think I'm trying to post interesting things with what I'm doing with Ham-Boy at the moment & I'd like that I'd be able to finish off what I've started. Not just with HB but with my other characters, too. If I'd ever get around to doing all that stuff, I don't know. | ||
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Subject: Aww. [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 05:20:08 pm EST (Viewed 565 times) | |
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Honestly, I'd prefer no one write a part two. The infinite "to be continued." It's the perfect ending. Always leave 'em hanging. | ||
killer shrike always said he'd write the story if Dancer ever came back to the PVB |
Subject: That last part sounds too much like work [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 18, 2010 at 05:36:36 pm EST | |
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Subject: Re: Aww. [Re: Nats] Posted Sun Nov 21, 2010 at 01:18:56 am EST (Viewed 536 times) | |
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Quote: Honestly, I'd prefer no one write a part two. The infinite "to be continued." It's the perfect ending.Always leave 'em hanging. Considering that "Happiness" has been left hanging for 12 years now, I'm not sure I'd take bets on whether this gets finished. | ||
HH is fairly convinced that Vizh is contractually obligated to be there to turn out the lights. |
Subject: Good choice in making the title plural. [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 03:14:47 pm EST | |
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HH thinks that even George Perez would have to draw this very small |
Subject: What happened in the second issue? [Re: killer shrike warns prospective readers they may want to brush up on their Kirby first] Posted Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 03:17:17 pm EST | |
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