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Subj: Re: Vinnie and Liu Xi
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 at 05:51:29 pm EST (Viewed 474 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Vinnie and Liu Xi
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 at 09:07:43 am EST (Viewed 1 times)



I'm going to add a little more about Faite at the top here because it's important to understanding the way she thinks:

She spent probably hundreds of years separated from the human race, and existing only as a cosmic spirit. During that time, she found herself highly in touch with the progression of the universe, and thinking only a big big things. Little things like a few hundred people dying in some disaster didn't mean much to her.

Eventually, she started to regret losing contact with the human race, and started to get involved again. But that proved to be disastrous at first, because she didn't really understand them. So she turned herself into a teenager (because she observed that way people will take care of her for a while, so she doesn't have to worry about getting established) and went to a boarding school.

So she's been immersed in re-learning how to be human, and has been missing some of the bigger cosmic things going on because of it. She tries to protect herself by disappearing when in danger, and tries to protect the few friends she made, but is otherwise stand-offish and distant to everyone else because she doesn't feel confident around them.

Now let's see how that relates to the stuff below...



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    Vinnie would want to know why she didn't use those tools then, but left him to face the tough choice. "Where were you when I had to decide, huh? Where were you when Slithis tried to take Liu Xi? Where were you as all those people died when the New Pantheon attacked? Somebody who sat back and just watched doesn't get to armchair quaterback afterwards! You want to know why I don't rely on you to swoop in and save us? You just proved you won't!"


To Vinnie, Faite would simply reply, "You didn't ask." She doesn't understand or trust him, and his anger just makes her want to distance herself from him further. So she says the most cold and logical thing she can think of. Until he earns her trust, that's all he would get from her.

To Chiaki, someone she tends to talk about her real feelings with, Faite would admit sadly that she waited too long, and regrets missing her chance to stop all of it before it was already in motion. Chiaki, always being encouraging, would remind her that control is an illusion, and the future has a way of working around interference - so interfering might have been for nothing.

Eventually, Chiaki might have then scolded Vinnie for taking his frustrations out on Faite. That she can't fix things now any more than he can, and that he should stop burning bridges because he might need her someday. If that upsets Vinnie, she would ask him sweetly to please stop turning on people who care about him, and that she would like to help him through *his* crisis as well.



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    Vinnie already had to make that call, or had to force Laurie to make it. Beth's view may vary.


Faite probably would have encouraged them to merge spirits. Primarily because she can do it, and without dealing with the sadness of either one of them, or their friends.



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    What good choices have been made to stop the New Pantheon tossing prime-Earth at the Wonderwall and prevent the hundreds of deaths caused by the Chain Knight and the end of humanity in a cosmic impact?


Not enough of them, obviously. That's part of the talk about regret that Faite would have with Chiaki.



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    Note, however, that Vinnie did manage to set things up to beat the baddies with his friends' help without loss of any further life except the bad guys themselves. The knock-on cost of "book-keeping" was a bargain - one unquiet spirit relocated to slow oblivion and some bruised feelings and personal difficulties.


And after that intro, we just now get to the point where Vinnie trying to be nice to Faite would actually come in handy in present time. His own feelings of regret and pain, and the ones he caused in other people, give all of his enemies a lot of leverage over him. Especially the Hooded Hood. Faite is one of the few people with the ability to see it coming, and help him head it off before it becomes another tragedy. But only if he can set aside his anger first.

The timing works out, too, because as long as she can't hide from it, she'll start to notice how much pain Vinnie is in and start to open up to him a little. She can be aloof, but she's not made of stone, and she's starting to pick up Chiaki's conscience.



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    It seems that Liu Xi spends so much time trying to fix Vinnie and others in part so she doesn;t have to try the harder task of fixing herself.



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    That's partly her nature but its partly avoidance behaviour.


It really is. She doesn't like what she was, and she's very happy right now (or was until Vinnie started turning weird on her) so she doesn't see any reason to look back.



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        Vespiir has actively tried to shut down her powers until very recently.

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      Chiaki would tell her that's kind of a useless idea. The power is always there, and ignoring it only brings sadness.



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    It also helps avoid beatings, brandings, rape, and torture.


Oh good, the one thing that makes Chiaki absolutely furious. Fortunately she doesn't have the transportation to go to Caph and have a chat with her former masters.






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