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Subj: Re: Easily the most unexpected line-up ever.
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 11:42:32 am EST (Viewed 394 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Easily the most unexpected line-up ever.
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 09:39:07 pm EST (Viewed 459 times)



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      It's kind of a combination of Dark Avengers, the Shadow Initiative, and the current X-Force.



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    I haven't read any of them, but I get the general idea.


Other than reading about the Shadow Initiative in Avengers: The Initiative (which I don't get in single issue form, I've been getting the tpbs, so I'm well behind in that series) I don't read the others either. I just took the concepts (Dark Avengers are villains in disguise as real Avengers, X-Force is the X-Men's wet works squad).

I admit, I might try to pick up the run of Dark Avengers at some point, if only because it's a fairly short run and it's supposed to be good.


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      I don't know if the rest of the team is really looking for redemption like a Thunderbolts team would be, but more could be added as we go along. I admit originally this series was going to center around Messenger, but I knew I wanted to include Killer Shrike. Very quickly Shrike took over as the central character so I cut Messy loose (plus I thought I read somewhere there might be a Messenger come back soon and I didn't want to mess that up).



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    Well, I didn't assume *this* team was... just that if more "honest" members should join it's a direction the team could take... because I think reviving this team is a good enough idea to keep it going beyond Doorman's initial plot.


Ah, yes, it could continue in a Thunderbolts type direction later; I can't see Quake or the Suicide Blonde being part of such a group though. \:\)


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    I'd be curious to see what spiffy's reaction might be to a new team using his old group's name... especially if they're going around killing folks. Of course, he's not ever supposed to find out about it, so I don't expect you to have to tackle it in your story. This idea just starts me thinking about all kinds of possibilities.


Feel free to share the possibilities, either in replies or tie-ins; that's the fun part of shared universes! I've actually got an idea to tie in the old AL with the current version, but I'd need to know what Hunter Victorius is up to right now.


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      Your "fake" heroes were some interesting choices as well... If only it was the real Sersi returning. Of course, then we'd need Rocket Raccoon, and I don't know if that would really keep the "dark" theme going too well. A fake Premiere was certainly unexpected... definitely plays into the idea that the Legion has had secrets long before Hatty decided to let Shrike in on them.



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      Not sure what you mean by the Legion having secrets because of the Premiere thing...really I was just looking for villains that could double as Legionnaires. Mr. Epitome would have been a better fit than Premiere, but it's not like the villains have to be perfect copies power-wise.



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    I just meant that Doorman was selling Shrike on the idea that the Legion has been willing to see that the dirty work gets done, just not publicly. Pulling out a secretly-alive "Premiere" suggests that the Legion actually has all sorts of secrets that the public doesn't know about... which in turn makes it more believable that a supposed goody-goody like Hatman might secretly put a hit on someone.


Ah, makes sense.


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    It's kind of the conspiracy theory method, where the more you allege a group is up to, the easier it is to believe that at least some of it might be true.



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      Of course, Citizen Z is the current question mark of this and all of her appearances. Do you know who is under the mask? Or does it not matter for your purposes?



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      I have an idea of who is under the mask, though it is certainly fluid at this point. If you have a request for the identity of Citizen Z to be a certain someone just let me know.



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    Well, there's a Citizen Z (that is decidedly *not* Beth Zemo) that has been showing up in Untold Tales. Nobody knows who that one really is. I was wondering if this was that Z, or yet another one.


As discussed above, I may just swap Citizen Z out entirely. She's not essential to the plot, I'm sure I can sub in somebody else.

~Hat~





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