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Subj: "Marty, you're just not thinking fourth-dimensionally!" Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 at 05:43:29 pm EDT (Viewed 451 times) | Reply Subj: See, my problem with this is... Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 at 02:37:33 pm EDT (Viewed 5 times) | ||||||
Quote: Or is this another parallel reality like the Mirror Universe and the original Trek tales just happened somewhere else?This. The fact that Leonard Nimoy, as the original Spock, now coexists in the same universe as the new Spock, is proof of this. Quote: If it's the latter than where's the dramatic tension or threat?Unless we believe that the movies to come are suddenly going to be overrun with time-traveling history-alterers (and really, the franchise has already had so goddamned many of those, in both the movies AND the TV shows, that it's hard to say that it would actually represent a CHANGE in the way Star Trek does business if there WERE such a sudden rush in those types of characters), then how does it diminish the dramatic tension or the threat? Yes, die-hard original series Trekkers are going to use this as a justification to regard the original series as more "real" than the new crew, but they were ALWAYS going to be chauvinistic on behalf of the Trek that they grew up with. Let's say, with this hypothetical "Spider-Man" character that you're talking about, the company that was publishing him came up with a newer, younger version of him - an "Ultimate" version" of him, if you will - WITHOUT saying that any of the stories about the ORIGINAL version of the character "never happened." If the company publishing this "Spider-Man" said, "Don't worry, the character you knew still grew up and did all the things you remember (maybe he even got married!), but THIS version of the character hasn't done any of that stuff yet," don't you think that would be more well-regarded than, say, if the company publishing Spider-Man used a magical deus ex machina to wipe out the history of the ORIGINAL version of the character? As with an "Ultimate Spider-Man," NuTrek allows old-school Trekkers to have their cake and eat it, too - they can still regard their own version as "superior," while enjoying the new version for what it is, without worrying about how it might contradict "their" continuity. Quote: If it's the latter it's also only a matter of time before O'Brian or Worf turns up to join the cast as well.The Next Gen characters are still removed from this new crew by a hundred years or so, don't forget, but yes, I can see their ancestors being played by those same actors - but once again, THAT'S NOT REALLY A CHANGE, since that was ALREADY happening in the previous Trek movies, and in shows like Enterprise (O HAY IT'S THE ANCESTOR OF DATA'S CREATOR, ALSO PLAYED BY BRENT SPINER). The fact of the matter is that the Next Gen crew really only ever clicked in one place - on their own TV show. Their movies never caught on with anyone outside of die-hard Trekkers like us, and their time period simply never captured the imagination the way that the original series' did. Next Gen is, technically, a superior show to the original series in nearly every aspect - better writing, better acting, better special effects, better action - and during its eight-year run, it was very successful (much more so than the original series during its own run, to be honest), but that's pretty much where it ended, and even the actors themselves are long past ready and itching to get the fuck out of Dodge City. I don't doubt we'll see Spiner making a cameo in one of the next Trek films as Yet Another Doctor Soong, probably screwing around with positronic matrix experiments, and we might even see Michael Dorn as a Klingon warrior, who starts thinking that maybe his empire should make peace with the Federation, but whereas the original series crew only worked for three years, before returning after a decade's hiatus to make a new film every few years, the Next Gen crew has basically STAYED on the clock since HOLY SHIT 1987. | |||||||
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