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Reply Subj: Re: Chad, Ronnie & Doctor Who! Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 at 06:57:25 am EDT (Viewed 3 times) | |||||||
Quote: Recently I've started to more allusions & references to the long running TV show "Doctor Who" into the Chad & Ronnie stories. Why? For a few reasons: 1. I'm a fan of the show & 2. I was thinking recently that Chad & Ronnie embody certain characters/aspects of the show. In both Doctor Who & Chad & Ronnie: it has always been a story about a Man, his Companion & the adventures that they have. Quote: I similarly love the show, having been brought up with it from infancy. I recall sitting with my father and watching Patrick Troughton's debut story, when I would have been around four.I haven't been with the show for that long. I had see scattered episodes on TV growing up (most often from the Tom Baker era). I knew that it was show but had never really gotten into until the show came back 2005 & have been watching ever since. I've gotten my mom to watch the show so I have a "companion" of sorts for when I watch the show  Quote: Now, who from the show "Doctor Who" would the character from Chad & Ronnie be:**WRITER'S NOTE: Most of the characters I'll be referring to are from when the show returned in 2005 & on. My knowledge of the series pre-2005 is a bit sketchy.** Quote: RONNIE: He has been dressing in clothes & styling his hair is a manner similar to Matt Smith's portrayal of The Doctor and that wasn't just by chance. I think Ronnie embodies much of the personality of Matt Smith's Doctor. There is a wide eyed innocence to both of them but there is also a dark, mysterious past to them.Quote: The main distinction I see is that the Doctor turns from whimisical and vague to suddenly menacingly dangerous in an instant. For eample, think of the moment in The Eleventh Hour where he appears at the end to the Atraxi and says: "Hello, I'm the Doctor. Basically... run."Ronnie most of the time is the whimsical & vague but can menacingly if the needs be. Rarely does the needs be. The only time that we've seen Ronnie that on displace for a long period of time was back in the Chad & Ronnie Murder Mystery story I did a few years ago. Chad was arrested for murder & Ronnie had to find out who the actual murderer. It turned out to be evil alternate universe versions of Chad & Ronnie who were infrequent cast members in the C&R stories for a year or so before they were done away with. Quote: CHAD: He is parts of David Tennant's portrayal of The Doctor & parts of Arthur Darvil's Rory Williams/Pond. Chad is the Companion to Ronnie's Doctor. He is the one that will stand beside their friend. He won't take the spotlight for their own but in times that he needs to do something he will. Chad has a life of his own but that becomes secondary when he's with Ronnie. Chad does have a certain innocence to him but is much more mysterious then Ronnie. Chad is Ronnie's support system as in in the past when bad things happen to Chad there are noticeable changes in Ronnie & bad things tend to happen to those responsible to the ones who hurt Chad.Quote: I always thought C&R had more of a team-up duo feel than principal and companion, but otherwise I can see Chad as being swept along with Ronnie. Both have principal/companion qualities to them & would also be quite lost without the other. They wouldn't die but limp along with help from their female counterparts (Ronnie with Jane & Chad with Catherine). Something I'm not sure most of noticed in the C&R stories: Ronnie is always introduced first & is the taller of the two. Chad might be as tall as Ronnie or taller but is always seen slouching. Another things that might not be noticed by people: With the Duo's chosen female counterparts the personalities are flipped. Ronnie & Catherine the outgoing ones compared to the more withdrawn Chad & Jane. I'm not sure if Chad just "swept along" with Ronnie. I think Chad influences Ronnie's choices a lot just by agreeing with him on certain things. He has an active passive role in the relationship. Quote: LITTLE CAT: I'm not sure who the duo's hamster companion would be compared to. I thought about using K-9: Both are "pets" & both are companions. But K-9 has done a lot more then Little Cat has ever done so I didn't think that comparison would be correct.Quote: One couldn't compare Little Cat to the TARDIS either, since the Doctor's time machine also facilitates - or causes - many of his exploits.True. I've never really thought about doing a Little Cat solo story since I'm not sure how to go about doing it. I did once do a dialogue light solo Chad story & a Little Cat might go along those lines. If I think about it a bit more. Chad shares some traits with the TARDIS: Always there. Silent. Helps out the "driver" of the adventure they are both on. Has a set look that rarely changes. Quote: JANE: She is similar to Catherine Tate's Donna Noble in many ways. Jane is a friend/companion to Chad & Ronnie but doesn't just go along willingly with what is going on. She has strong opinions & will voice them. Early on there was an attraction between Jane & Ronnie, they dated for a short while. They broke up & she seemingly wanted nothing to do with Chad or Ronnie. But as it stands right now, Jane does not mind be associated with them most of the time. There are still feelings & they care for each other. Ronnie needs Jane to be his anchor in the "real world" & Jane needs Ronnie to help her avoid the "real world".Quote: She is also often quite caustic about her friends and adversaries alike.True. The only person who truly brings out strong feelings in Jane is Ronnie. The rest of the time Jane remains mostly in the background. Jane is the longest running supporting character but there is little known about her. That's my fault but it might also be mistakingly on purpose. Quote: CATHERINE: She was the first of the Chad & Ronnie related characters to have any Doctor Who references in her stories. This has now crossed over to the main characters. Catherine is elements of Billie Piper's Rose Tyler & Karen Gillian's Amy Pond. She enjoys the adventures that she goes on with Chad & Ronnie but doesn't just follow along to follow along. She's there because she wants to be! Catherine is also known to initiate a few adventures of her own. Catherine has a bit of a Love/Hate relationship with Ronnie, sort of like the relationship Alex Kingston's River Song has with Matt Smith's Doctor.Quote: Catherine is something of the new breed of cool convention-going fangirl. She has some of the Doctor's own eccentricity.Yeah. Catherine is most fleshed out of the C&R cast of character (we know her hobbies, what her job is & have met a few members of her family). She is also only one to get her own "spin off" series. We have seen her "fangirl" nature directly come out in a few stories. 1 prime example is the story "April & Catherine" where CSFB's wife April is doing a Groovy Gecko-Gal signing at a local comic book store. Catherine comes by & gets a few comics signed. At the end I hinted at their maybe being another meeting between the two of them but I've just not gotten around to it. Quote: I don't know if you've seen The Asylum of the Daleks yet, but the main guest star in that episode would probably be who I'd look to for a Catherine analogue.I have & thought about mentioning Oswin in relation to Catherine, the two characters do share some personality traits. I didn't mention her since I thought it might be too spoliery of a reference to the show. Quote: MISTER SPOOKY: I'm not really sure who compare the most mysterious of the Chad & Ronnie cast to. A man who tells nothing about his past or his intentions, who will appear & disappear of you nowhere. A man who may or may not have mystical/super powers.Quote: You'd have to dip back to the old series and look at the Key for Time Quest set by the Black and White Guardians of Time. The Black Guardian returned thereafter as a recurring villain.ok. I might check that out. Mister Spooky has probably the most direct ties to the Parodyverse of the characters in the C&R stories since he started life as just a nickname the duo gave to another PV character then slowly evolved into a separate character. Quote: CLIVE HUDGENS: One of the newer characters in the Chad Ronnie story doesn't really have a person I'd compare him too. I'd say he's more like an Emissary of the Galifreyans, the race that The Doctor belongs to. The Galifreyans in the Chad & Ronnie stories would who Clive works for: Ronnie's Family.Quote: Too early to say.Yes. I was just thinking that if Ronnie is The Doctor then that makes his Family the Galifreyans by default since they are the Doctor's "family". Quote: ------------If there any other Doctor Who fans that would like to say who they think the character from Chad & Ronnie are and why. I'd love to read it Quote: I think so far you've done a good job of being inspired by your sources without being derivative.Thanks I would have made some comparisons between the villains of Doctor Who & Chad & Ronnie but the duo don't really have any. None longer term foes. Well... There is Pregos the Impregnator who has yet to be seen in any story yet. She has just been mentioned in a half dozen stories. Catherine managed to get a foe of her own: The Man with the Glass Breasts (He was a gangster who had a glass replicas of his girlfriend's breast made of glass that he had carried around with him in a briefcase). Catherine is the reason why he went to jail so I'd count his a villain for Catherine. | |||||||
