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Subj: The other person wouldn't see it that way.
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 10:15:46 am EST (Viewed 424 times)
Reply Subj: Then you're lucky.
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 08:59:21 am EST (Viewed 1 times)




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    The idea is to hurt the Legion as much as possible before they die. Where's the fun otherwise?


Noted.



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    Surely if you have the ability to save lives you'd feel bad every time you saw the news about lives lost and knew you'd done nothing?



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    For example, what superhero (if they existed in our world) wouldn't have flown out of retirement and gone to Haiti recently to help with rescue operations?


Most likely she would - and she didn't give up that stuff entirely at home, she's just not making a career or a public spectacle of it anymore. It's more like a hobby now.

The point is the same with the Lair Legion though - if they were rendered obsolete it doesn't mean they'd give up hero-ing entirely, just that they wouldn't do so as a permanent group anymore.



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    I'm hoping to rule this one out as a possibility. The purpose of previous Carnifex provocations like the Moderator Saga and Saving the Future was for him to get the measure of his enemies characters, abilities, and powers. He wants the first of these so he can work out how to torment them, the second so he can set strategies against them, and the third so he can neutralise those which would otherwise interfere with his games. This latter factor is how he's worked out ways of preventing Liu Xi and Lara from departing out of his trap.


Like I said, it's a last resort for two reasons: First, if Lara does indeed have a way out, she won't want whoever trapped her there to know about it, because she plans to come right back (and the next trap will be even better). Just like Chiaki says, never let your enemy see your true strength right away.



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    Note however that he hasn't simply arranged for their immediate and inescabable demise. He wants them to struggle and suffer for as long as possible before falling; and therein lies his weakness.


So if the women have a barbecue and invite the zombies and Ms Peel the Carnifex will be angry?



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    I expect that eventually the heroes will work out that escape isn't possible. Thereafter the only acceptable solution is victory.


Since it's very unlikely they can stop billions of zombies one by one, they have to take out the person controlling them. Or take control of the zombies.



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    That might work under other contexts, but I think it would feel like a cheat in this situation. Here's an "impossible challenge" for the characters, which is designed to make them helpless and desperate and ultimately to fail. Narratively it would only satisfy if they managed somehow through their own efforts to thwart that intent to make them victims.


It's still a possibility, so I threw it out there.



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      5. Liu Xi finally remembers spells that Vinnie told her about while she was up late at night with him, and she turns the zombies - or their ghostly souls - against Ms. Peel by telling them she was responsible for their genocide.



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    It's one way through, but I think Liu Xi would need considerably more experience and power to accomplish such a thing on a planetary scale.


Anna is a very powerful transmitter, and the frequency range of her transmissions is still a secret. They would only need to convince the zombies within range (the rest are too far away to care about yet, they could take days to arrive).



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      Anything other than that would probably involve factors or characters I'm not at all familiar with.



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    I think it would be a cheat to bring in some left-field x-factor to this one. The key to victory has to be our heroines toughing it out, dealing with all the crap and horror, and proving they're better than the opposition the hard way. We'll see how that pans out when I write UT#335.


Of all of them, Chiaki is probably at the greatest disadvantage...since she's fighting with all her limbs, she'll tire most quickly - but she also will be the most reluctant to throw in the towel. She would continue fighting, but you'd be able to tell she's getting tired when she switches from aggressive to defensive.

Anna can continue fighting the longest, because her battery has a kinetic recharge, so the more she's fighting, the more power she gets. She might even be recharging fast enough to use the lasers fairly often. Her being designed that way is no accident - she was designed by SPUD, and one of the requirements was a nearly tireless fighting machine. There is danger of her overheating though, which would cause her to sweat, and then slow down as the water in her body begins to diminish.

Lara would do okay if she paces herself and doesn't use up more energy in a single burst than she can recharge from the planet's magnetic field. Most likely if she's planning something big, she would really conserve that power, in case she has to use it all up escaping far away, or detonating the entire planet's surface.

Liu Xi would have to be smart and use as basic elemental power as she can, because it would tire her out very quickly. Just like Lara, she would need to remember to keep something in reserve for something big - but unlike Lara, she has no way to recharge, so once she wears down, she's out of action.

So eventually it becomes a case of two people protecting all four, and then eventually Anna would be fighting for them all. Then possibly Lara might use the time she's not fighting to build up enough power for a massive detonation, or Liu Xi may just turn hurricane force winds on the zombies, and then pass out from the strain.