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Subj: Re: On the lower shelves.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:25:48 am EDT (Viewed 1 times)
Reply Subj: Re: On the lower shelves.
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 at 09:55:57 am EDT (Viewed 391 times)



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      There are traditions about demons from below the Earth in most cultures. Apart from many religions having an underworld of the dead below the Earth there are European dwarfs, snirfneblin, tappers, orcs, etc., South American inbunches, and so on.



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    The Eastern ones stand out though because they're part of a system of balance. The idea is that above ground, everything contains a benevolent spirit that humans must share, and is by nature free. Below ground is the underworld, ruled by some cruel tyrant or another, and the source of all evil in the world. Volcanoes and earthquakes in the region made that believable.


I can see the parallels with the Greek myths, which likewise saw the underworld as fierce and menacing. The more Northern pantheons like the Norse and Celts saw the sea as equally dangerous.


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      But what I was really pulling this stuff from was the writings of early 20th century occultists that had a high regard of Eastern (and especially Tibetan) hidden wisdoms and who popularisied stories of underground or hidden cities with secret ascended masters, and of the curious 40s pulp fiction craze about twisted underground races described collectively as "the Shaver Mystery".



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    Never seen that stuff, but I'd guess a lot of it was borrowed from explorers bringing back stories and writings from the East 20-30 years or so earlier.


Shaver was a rather odd character, and today we may have diagnosed him as paranoid and maybe schizophrenic. He wrote about his degererate underground race, the Deros, as using mind rays to control humans on the surface, beaming messages into their minds. He also offered detailed sado-masochistic accounts of the torture and rape of their victims (which were duly edited out of his published stories).

I think there may be something in the connection you suggest, or it may be even more direct. Shaver was writing just after the great American scare of Japanese invasion, at a time when the Japanese were caricatured in the US as small, cruel, devious, and degenerate, just like Shaver's Deros.







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