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Reply Subj: Re: The old order changeth Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 at 09:02:40 pm EST (Viewed 7 times) | |||||||
Quote: Quote: I intend to have another go at it tomorrow. I reckon I'm 60% done.Quote: Why, that's enough to post a chunk isn't it? *hopeful*It's not a thematic whole, though. The stories I post peacemeal are usually designed for that episodic format. 60% of this one would just leave people confused and dissatisfied. Plus, since this is turning into such a bugger to write I'll probably need to go and do a second draft of the stuff when it's completed. I still have hopes of doing this for today if I don't get distracted. Quote: Really, take your time, we'll be here waiting for it. It needs doing fast because other jobs are piling up. Quote: Quote: Rhiannon's away this weekend but I'll ask her when she gets back.Quote: I'll be impressed if she or anyone else can recall. Visionary and the Heart of Darkness: Epilogue #3 “Chemical Heart†Part 2 and in the reply thread to The Baroness, Part 48A. There was also a Magica (Princess Projectrasil) in the Shee-Yar hero team the Impetuous Guard that appeared in several of Scott's stories then later in Untold tales. Quote: Quote: Not without Mumphrey shooting him. It'd literally be over his dead body.Quote: Quote: Actually I'm against the idea of archvillains joining hero teams, as with Magneto in the X-Men. An aantagonist designed to be powerful and dangerous enough to threaten an entire team has to be seriously watered down to fit with the group they previously menaced. And then you just need another archvillain.Quote: Yes true. And we have just had the Carnifex as a member. Still...if we're short on members....The Carnifex isn't really the best example. Quote: Quote: In personality terms we're missing someone to make bitchy/snarky comments,Quote: Miss Framlicker (though, what else will she do exactly?)She's make a fine replacement for Al. Quote: Hooded HoodI think not. Quote: DenialQuote: KerryPossibles. Quote: Ebony (well, more aloof rather than bitchy)She'd have to be having a particularly bad day. Quote: BaronessFits the bill perfectly but has a number of problems being a member. Quote: Silicone SallyNot really snarky in that way. Quote: PAPG! ?Possible, but too like CSFB! in other ways. Quote: Or...Bring Back Hacker 9!!Noted. Quote: Quote: we're missing someone to be dark and brooding,Quote: VinnieVinnie doesn't brood. He even feels guilty if he sulks. Quote: Anvil Man at a stretchDoesn't brood, just breaks things. Quote: Urthula Underess could be dark...but not really brooding...Doesn't brood but can be bitchy. Quote: Or...Hacker 9?Only broods before doing something monumentally stupid like taking over the world. Anyway, H9 is a Herald of Galactivac now. Quote: Quote: and we're missing a young romantic male lead that's unattached.Quote: Hmm...Quote: VinnieI'm not sure if he's attached to Liu Xi of not. Jason seemed to imply recently that things may have gone horizontal. Quote: STL or HamboyEither of these would work. Should Ham-Boy become Ham-Guy if he joins the LL? Quote: Urban Druid if his writer ever gets around to writing more.So far I think he's walked down a street. That's about par for Al B's introduction as I recall. Quote: Anvil ManHe's stuck in impenetrable armour that doesn't even have a toilet flap. Quote: *ahem*Quote: Hacker 9.He's hardly a babe magnet. Quote: Quote: In team combat dynamics we're short of the one-useful-power types like G-Eyed, Cressida, Exile, DBS.Quote: Hacker 9? H9's not really got combat powers. Quote: I would like to see an occult character. So Vinnie works too.Vinnie's not really got combat powers. Quote: Quote: The team's also short on in-your-face brawlers right now; only Yuki fills that niche in the absence of Epitome, Hatman, Donar, and Finny.Quote: Anvil Man is a good one for that.Indeed. So is Yurt. Quote: But I think I am now going to work on a "Bring Back Hacker 9" campaign.Send me a button. Quote: Quote: I have two worries. The first is that sometimes posters have felt they can't write their own characters after I've worked extensivey on them. The second is that if characters get "donated" to me (or to the board in general) it becomes very self-indulgent to use them all the time since I'm effectively populating the team with characters I now control.Quote: Well, you can really only control or have influence over the second of your worries (the self-indulgence one) and you've never let it get out of had before while writing Mumph in the team or the Juniors, so why worry it will start now?It's the worry that's the problem, not the execution. I had a few ideas for Mumph running the LL that I never got the chance to do but I'm reluctant to have him snatch it back now. Quote: As for the first worry, hmm, there isn't a lot you can do about other posters feelings. Other than not write anyone else into the team but your own characters. Which isn't an option either. It's a risk that has to be taken. You can only take advice when given, and there are only a few here who have given advice on what they want and don't want for their characters. So go with that and use the rest as you see fit till requested otherwise I suggest. There's a point of compromise to be discerned. That point masy be different given lower poster participation than previously. Quote: Quote: For example, I could write a real fun team with a line up of Mumph with DBS, thuddy, Kerry, Danny, Vinnie, FA, Gaz, Ham-Boy, and Anvil Man, with associates Champagne, Night Nurse, and Tom Black. I'm not sure it would be much fun for everybody else once the novelty worse off.Quote: I'd read it! And as long as Kerry-Danny plots don't dominate every chapter I'm sure I'd enjoy it. But yes, I see what you mean.I'd have a lot of fun with that line-up. Quote: Quote: I once considered allowing an extra member for every 200 stories the poster did. I reckon that qualifies Vizh, Jason, KS, AG, and me. Actually I get four characters by that rule.Quote: Ha! I get what, negative 4? See ya Al B. *sobs*We can't all have chronic insomnia. Quote: Quote: I'd like to keep both poster and character Hatty around, but he's had a fair run as LL leader now so I'm wondering if there are ways of moving him sideways.Quote: Being stuck in that space-time-warp thing isn't permanent? You didn't spot him reappearing at the end of the last Untold Tales? Quote: Quote: Plus it's weird writing a Zdenka/Jay romance when poster-Jay's married. It's the same problem I had with the Jay/Whitney romance when Whit got hitched.Quote: Yeah. It seems that's all over though and Zdenka is now with Mark. Is she though? Quote: Quote: My problem with this - and Kirk certainly deserves it - is that CSFB! could be a lot less fun in a leadership role. Once you've had the joy of him outraging the establishment, pantsing Garrick etc., he's still the guy who has to call DBS to order for seducing Samantha or something, and that's just not him.Quote: It would be challenging to resolve those situations. He wouldn't be the one to call DBS on it sure. Be interesting to see what does happen though instead.It would; but I don't know so I couldn't write it. CSFB! is a uniquely Kirk creation and some reactions of that kind could only ring true if Kirk wrote them. For example, Kirk wrote a great piece with Dream counselling H9 once, but only Kirk could have written it. Quote: Quote: I think with the line-up we can either go for an "all star" team and pull in former members even though their posters are rare - drag back Donar, G-Eyed, Messy, thud, Troia, Ziles, Yo - or we could do a "Cap's kooky quartet" and dump almost the entire current membership for newbies like Liu Xi. I'm having trouble imagining how to reconcile the two approaches.Quote: Perhaps when the dust settles from the Carnifex routing we can go by the old open-roster once-a-member-always-a-member can use from the vast pool of members and possible members to suit the needs of both threat and plot needs? Therefore when you need the kooky quartet you can but when you need the all in brawl you can too? It might work...maybe.My problem then comes writing major-threat stories where there's no logical reason that 37 Legionnaires don't storm in to save the day. Quote: We forgot Chiaki as a possibility too...See my comments to jason on this. Quote: Quote: The Shoggoth's around.Quote: *waves* *ducks from the goo spray* Quote: Powerwise I'd like STL. I think STL would struggle with the storng colourful personalities of the LL; at least I'd struggle with him. He's too close to "default hapless nice guy" to stand out. It's a problem I once had with others until I figured out their unique selling points. Quote: Maybe we all should choose one character to have in the team? It...could work...or be a disaster.So if you could pick just ONE character to be on the team, and it couldn't be your current one, who would it be? Quote: Quote: Indeed. thud showed up on the board a year of so back and we corresponded. At that point he wanted to do more with thud away from the LL before bringing him back to the fold.Quote: Awww well, if you have that specific request I guess he's a no then. Sad. I'm still tempted. Quote: Quote: I guess you must have missed the ending to that one being posted.Quote: I can't find it in the archives!Complain to Jason. Quote: Quote: Xander wouldn't approve though.Quote: Shame he's not around either then.Actually Mike looked in the other day and commented on being on the banner. He was a bit horrified to work out how much catch-up reading he needed to do. Quote: Vinnie for the LL!Noted. Quote: And Hacker 9! Noted. Quote: Quote: I'd do it if JJJ was around.Quote: Last post he said he was around just lacking motivation. Maybe her joining is all he needs? Indeed. The Silicone Sally problem is that she's a fun slightly-slutty party girl which puts her somewhere between Lisa and Dancer characterwise - and we've already got Lisa and Dancer. Quote: Quote: * insert Lisa joke here *Quote: Ok it was still funny. Even after all these years. You can't beat the classics. * insert second Lisa joke here * Quote: Quote: He's a career mercenary villain but he's fun to write. He's a real blue-collar baddie.Quote: All he needs is someone to show him the money, I mean fun, that can be had walking the other path for a while. I suggest Yuki hire him. Or something. He gets the 'heavy hitter' role done.He does at that. Quote: All these suggestions...not sure I am actually helping any.* restrains answer * | |||||||
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