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Subj: Re: Probably dirt.
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 06:59:45 am EDT
Reply Subj: Probably dirt.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:42:42 am EDT (Viewed 329 times)


> > > Well technically all Chiaki did was pull the fire alarm. Even if they had video, which they don't, that's the only thing there could possibly be physical evidence of. The argument in court would be whether she knew it would cause a prisoner release. They know it was premeditated because she made an appointment to visit them.
> > That argument would't protect Chaiki in court though. "All I did was pull the trigger. It was the bullets that killed him."
> If she says nothing, though, a defense lawyer could claim that there's no way she could have predicted that the Safe had such lax security procedures in case of a fire emergency. The point being that Chiaki wasn't entirely to blame for the escape. That's called reasonable doubt.

And if you choose the courtroom drama option there'd have to be such wiggle space.

The prosecution would want to know 1. why Chiaki was there, 2. if there was any link between her and the explosives, 3. whether she had an intent to release prisoners, and 4. whether she knew that triggering the alarms might do so. If she dodges the questions or takes the fifth then the jury has the right to take that into account in adjudging her.

> Also reasonable doubt, technically the presence of explosives in the prison is an emergency. It's possible Chiaki responded to it appropriately by pulling the fire alarm, with the reasonable expectation of an orderly evacuation, which would normally save lives.

I don't actually know what the procedure would be in a prison fire alarm, but I'm guessing it isn't "assemble everyone outside the walls".

> You'll see in my next posted story that Chiaki takes a creative route to saying something to Hatman, because if she just hid from him, he'd assume she's guilty. Hint: She tells him something about it without actually being there.

I'm hoping to catch up on my reading when I've caught up on my replies.

> > Prosecution questions: Did you know about the explosive charges? Did you go to the Safe intending to free prisoners? Who else knew what you had done?",

> It would be difficult to get her on the stand in such a case. A smart defense lawyer would avoid it completely. Not because of what she might say, it's a simple courtroom tactic - keeping your client mute means they look more sympathetic. Once they're on the stand and speaking, the jury starts to form opinions of them, and usually not good ones.

If she's arrested and charged on these offences then the prosecution don't only get to ask her these things in court they get to ask her them before defence speaks. She has the right not to answer, but as I said above the jury have the right to interpret that silence.

> > In Liu Xi's case, no crime committed in Earth jurisdiction would have sufficient evidence to convict her.
> Maybe so, but then there's the point that Hatman hasn't even attempted to. If he was really dedicated to brining Liu Xi to justice, he would have talked to Commissioner Graham...probably looked like a bit of an idiot, when Graham told him there's no way Liu Xi can be charged on Earth. It did seem like Hatman didn't want the chance of some world court deciding his friend is too dangerous and needs to be put to death.

The Legion has overlooked some pretty bizarre behaviour from a number of their associates, especially when its clear that those associates have moved on from that behaviour. When it comes to committing major crimes in their jurisdiction the Legion has shown less tolerance.

> I guess you can call that a flaw, in a sense, that Hatman stands by the justice system even when it can be unfair. Either that, or another related flaw, where Hatman believes a friend becomes "tainted" when convicted of a crime; they're no longer a friend of his, just a criminal like any other, and deserve any punishment he or the justice system choose to dole out.

The justice system is imperfect yet still needs defending because its better than no justice system.

> If Chiaki senses that in him, there could be trouble. If she would sense he doesn't care, she would stop pleading and start fighting back instead. That's not personal against Hatman, though. She already knows that at any time, Akiko could abandon her friendship with the Samurai - and if that happens, Chiaki is prepared to fight back against that too.

As others have commented, I don't think it's that Jay wouldn't care, but rather that he has a very clear and honest understanding of his priorities.

It's like the Bogart film where the detective sends the woman he loves to jail for a murder she committed, promising "I'll wait for you."

> > And the the Hood would consider recruiting her.

> He might be considering it already. Though before that, Chiaki does have other resources she can use. Remember, she's the holder of someone's secrets, who takes a dim view of anyone who might use her incarceration to access them.

Proceed.

> > Remember that as far as the world knows the fake Hatman was a Space Fandom.
> But first someone has to prove he was even there. If that happens, Chiaki may simply be very lucky, because then the focus would be off of her and the charges dropped.

At least there's the well-publicised White House attack to start making a case from.






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