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Subj: Please don't call the Adam West TV show dreck. It was, in fact, brilliant and hilarious-- probably one of the smartest shows I've ever seen. Yes. Seriously.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 at 12:10:53 pm EST (Viewed 396 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Maybe not as long as you pack 30% of your bodyweight in food when you board.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 at 08:19:39 am EST


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> > > > As I said before, the Joker just never fully worked as a character. That's why I much prefer Harley Quinn... you're not supposed to take her seriously as a real threat, so the clowning around works.
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> > > Ever see or read "It"? Or heard of a jolly fellow named John Wayne Gacy? Believe me, nothing's scarier than a homicidal clown. Joker seems alot more plausible to me than Harley Quinn, who I admit I've only seen in a couple Batman cartoons.
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> > Plausible isn't terribly important in my "man dresses as a bat" entertainment.
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> When "plausible" isn't important, we get dreck like 'Batman and Robin' and the Batman TV series. A certain level of plausibility is needed. I like to suspend my disbelief, but I can't do that if there's not some measure of realism.
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> >I've only seen her in the cartoon, and I enjoyed the fact that she deflated the very self importance that the mythic take builds up. I don't want a campy tone overall, but as with the "X-Files" humorous episodes, I think it's great when a show can step back from being so full of itself.
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> Uhm... Vizh, the Batman movies aren't a TV show. They're special events that occur every three years. If this was just one in a series of episodes, I would agree with you and be all for a humorous installment. But this is a movie series.
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> > After all, "Why so serious?"
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> Ooooh. Touche!
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> > > Well, when I said it's good that the new Batman films are more realistic than previous interpretations, obviously there's a point where it can become so realistic it's not entertaining. If the whole movie was Joker luring people into various alleys and knifing them, the movie would get boring pretty quickly. Let's also remember that there's a man in a giant bat-suit who jumps from building to building and takes the law into his own hands, and he hasn't been caught either.
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> > See above. It's the very reason that making him John Wayne Gacy doesn't make the character better in my eyes. Making him a serial killer in clown make-up just makes him a slasher villain to me.
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> I don't think he should be John Wayne Gacy. I was just pointing out that yes, clowns can be threatening. Take it from someone who's hated clowns since he was a wee lad. \:\-\)
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> > > Sorry, I don't see it. I really think people are looking for reasons not to like the new Joker, either because of how they think the Joker *should* be or who has previously played him (such as you) or because they have preconceived notions and bias about Ledger (shrike).
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> > You're welcome to disagree, but it's very much unfair to tell someone "your opinions aren't valid because you have some prior bias" when I could and did tell you exactly what I didn't like about what I saw in the trailer. If you can't hear him drawling his every other line, then maybe I'm not the one who has blinders on. It's not a subtle speech pattern...
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> Well the "prior bias" part was the fact that you were comparing him to Nicholson's Joker. If you saw that trailer from a fresh perspective you might not think Ledger's acting was derivative. Ever since the Joker was announced for this film, the net's been abuzz about how the next Joker won't compare to Nicholson's, so I think people are looking for evidence of a rip-off, when there's really nothing there. So he has a creepy drawl. I don't find it Nicholson-esque. And I noticed that plenty of times, he sounded completely different from any previous Joker interpretation like when he gleefully exclaims "like me" before the building blows up.
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