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Subject: Untold Tales of the Untold Tales #360: You Say You Want a Resolution? Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 10:46:01 am EST (Viewed 21 times) | |
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Subject: Looks like everyone's being written into a corner [Re: The Hooded Hood chronicles the end times] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 11:23:24 am EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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unless HH's angle pays off, that is. | ||
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Subject: Or a hole [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 11:27:11 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: unless HH's angle pays off, that is. Do we really want him at the controls any more than Dreamy? | ||
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Subject: The B in PVB stands for "Buried". [Re: HH] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 11:48:02 am EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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The Hood runs 90+% of what goes on in the Parodyverse anyway, might as well turn the whole thing over to the guy, even if he is an insane super-villain. Plus, as an out, I don't think his desired showdown with the PVB Creators would go exactly as he planned. Meeting your "maker" seldom ends well for a person (except Animal Man, but Grant Morrison admits that was a bit of a cop out). | ||
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Subject: Re: The B in PVB stands for "Buried". [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 01:29:50 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: The Hood runs 90+% of what goes on in the Parodyverse anyway, might as well turn the whole thing over to the guy, even if he is an insane super-villain.Quote: Plus, as an out, I don't think his desired showdown with the PVB Creators would go exactly as he planned. Meeting your "maker" seldom ends well for a person (except Animal Man, but Grant Morrison admits that was a bit of a cop out). You've got to admit, it would be one hell of a suicide note. | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: My only reply is a mini-tie-in: "Fair Fight" [Re: The Hooded Hood chronicles the end times] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 04:18:03 pm EST (Viewed 1126 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 10.0.2 on MacOS X (0.11 points) Fair Fight A blonde walked past the gate to Herringcarp Asylum wearing jeans, black leather boots, and a black hoodie pulled over her head. The hoodie had some abstract logo on it. No one seemed to notice her there, save one person. The others were too busy posturing, and trying not to lose their place in line and having to wait several more hours. While most of the people there didn’t see her as anything but an anonymous blonde who happened to be gawking at the super-villain signup outside the Asylum, one person recognized those unusual eyes. Velcro Vixen set aside her role in keeping the signups moving along, and headed toward the gate. She moved faster when she blonde spotted her, turned around, and started to walk away slowly. VV passed through the gate, and started half-running to catch up. She didn’t want to yell and get the attention of the others on the grounds, turning the sign-up into complete chaos, after she worked so hard to keep it sane. Besides, she could handle one person herself. VV paused just then, about a block down the street, in a small park, realizing that she lost sight of the blonde. She spun around, not sure what to do. Should she search? Stay put for a minute or so? Walk back to Herringcarp and hope it didn’t mean anything? She didn’t entirely rule out the possibility of an ambush. The reason she was so worried - that blonde was Lara Night. VV recognized her from the Clockwork ship and Captain Khan’s Dimensional Dreadnaught. The Hooded Hood said she used to be called Lightning Girl back home, when she was younger. And she certainly could live up to her name. With all of those super-villains in one place, she had the power, the skill, and the lack of fairness to wipe them all out at once, just because she had the opportunity. “Hey!†a voice behind her suddenly announced. VV spun around, poison blade in hand, and swiped at the blonde. The blade passed right through her like she wasn’t even there. She clenched her teeth, and tried again. “Easy, easy.†Lara urged her, waving her hand downward to emphasize calm. “I just want to talk to you.†Lara glanced down at the still-poised knife, noting that VV held it so tightly her knuckles turned while. “I’m not going to take it from you,†she said. VV looked around again. She noticed the blonde said I. As in that she was here alone. “If I whistle, a hundred super-villains will come here and crush you,†she said. Without replying, Lara sat down on one of the park’s concrete benches, and put her hands on the pockets of the hoodie. It was a little chilly. Since Lara was just sitting there now, making no aggressive moves, VV sat down, too, and put the blade in her lap. “What do you want to talk about?†“When we were on Captain Khan’s ship, you were the only one who treated me fairly,†Lara told her. “So?†VV asked. “It’s a waste of time to fight with crew mates. You’re stuck with them, so you either get along or kill them.†“Why did you just try to stab me?†VV thought about that. She couldn’t really come up with a reason, other than…she was afraid. She never really had any super-powers, so she had to be murderously aggressive to stay alive. But she wasn’t going to tell Lara that. “I thought the Lair Legion sent you to kill me,†VV replied. Lara shook her head, and smiled. “I don’t work for them, VV. I help them. They offered me membership in exchange. I decide what I do and don’t do.†“As do I,†VV pointed out. “Why do you hang around those losers, anyway? They don’t have any serious power. You do.†“But I have friends there,†Lara explained. “People I can talk to, who listen to me. Which is kind of why I’m here.†VV raised an eyebrow. She was amused, thinking that Lara might ask her to sign up. Hatman would literally explode - a paid assassin with dozens of kills joining the Lair Legion. “You don’t have anyone to just…listen to you,†Lara concluded. “I noticed that when we were on Khan’s ship. You’re surrounded by violent predators who would kill you if you showed a moment’s weakness.†“Oh, and it’s much better in the Lair Legion?†VV shot back. “I’m not trying to recruit you,†Lara corrected. “I don’t really have the authority to do that. I just want you to know that…when I was little, I wanted to have a friend named Victoria.†VV chuckled then, and looked down at the blade in her lap. “Nobody’s called me that in a long time, Lara.†“Yes, well, I just did.†Lara smiled too. “I’m not really expecting a full friendship. I just feel like you need someone to listen to you once in a while.†“You’re not…into girls, are you?†VV asked. “I mean…it’s okay if you are, but I’m not.†Lara shook her head. “I’m not either.†VV then laughed again, as another thought occurred to her. “Aren’t you friends with Hatman? Is he going to completely freak if you’re friends with me?†She didn’t say that thought made it kind of tempting. She would love to see Hatman freak out over that. “It’s not really his business,†Lara told her. “He doesn’t have to like my friends, he just has to accept them.†“And you’re not doing this because you think you can chip away at me and turn me into one of the good guys?†Lara shook her head. “No. I can’t say I won’t hope you don’t meet self-destruction, but it’s your life.†It’s your life. That part echoed in Vicki’s head. Her life had been full of people trying to tell her how to live it. This blonde was a refreshing change from that. “What if I’m hired to kill you someday?†Vicki asked. “Or if you’re supposed to arrest me?†Lara smiled, and chuckled slightly. “I suppose we’d have a decision to make, then. If it’s going to be us vs the world.†“Us vs the world,†VV repeated, and then she laughed. “That does kind of sound awesome.†“Aren’t you cold?†Lara asked, referring to the assassin’s fetish-wear, and the fact that it was winter outside. “Shit, yes.†VV nodded quickly. “I chose this because it distracts men. I’m having second thoughts though, because dressed like that, you had both Cacciatore and Browning wrapped around your little finger.†“You should get some high-tech boots and gloves so you can cling to stuff. It would totally fit your name.†“I wish,†VV laughed. “That would make my job so much easier.†“I think guys like Cacciatore and Browning like me so much because they think I look innocent,†Lara finally replied. “I don’t think they take me seriously like they do with you.†“I think I’ve been gone long enough,†VV finally said with a sigh. “The others will start looking for me soon.†Lara nodded. “Another time, then? Us vs the world?†The blonde extended her arm with a clenched fist at the end. VV sighed, and thought for just a moment, before doing the same, and bumping Lara’s fist with her own. “I can’t believe I’m doing this.†“I don’t think you’ll regret it. Victoria.†VV snorted a laugh while Lara smiled. “Seriously, don’t call me that in front of anyone. I will kill you.†“Fair enough,†Lara agreed. The assassin then rose, and put the knife away. “By the way,†Lara said as she stood too, “With that fist bump I gave you just enough static electricity to give someone a really nice shock.†“Really?†VV raised an eyebrow, and looked down at her own fist. “Yeah,†Lara laughed. “A little gift from me. Use it wisely.†“You have a little mean streak in you,†VV observed. “I like it.†Lara started to walk away then, and VV stopped her. “Hey,†VV called after her. “How can I contact you?†“Call the Lair Mansion,†Lara told her. “Are you serious? They won’t let me through.†“Hallie will.†Lara turned and started to walk away, vanishing into the thicket of trees in the park. -- Story written and copyrighted (C) 2017 by Jason Froikin, and may not be -- reprinted without permission. | ||
Al B. Harper doesn't actually recall saying that. Member Since: Mon Jan 04, 2016 Posts: 485 |
Subject: "Well, you know. We all want to change the world." [Re: The Hooded Hood chronicles the end times] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 08:26:47 pm EST (Viewed 1048 times) | |
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Nice set up to the Resolution IW and a fun romp though the history of it all. Though it was a bit of a quick fix to all the bad stuff you did over the last few issues wasn't it? Oh the Dreaming Celstial made it all okay again. Maybe I've come to expect more difficult solutions for our heroes (we are what you have made us as readers). This issue totally had to have art work by George Perez. All those heroes and villains lining up to take sides. I can see it. Some fun cameos too. Very interesting that they all knew the plot on that point too. Subtle machinations by the DC to get them into line? Worrying that some of our cast are still missing. Quote: The handsome man in the pilot’s flight suit perked up immensely as Velcro Vixen sashayed towards him. “Well, hello there, darling.â€Quote: “You are Raptor Leader One? Of the flight team who bombed Parody Island yesterday?â€Quote: “You’ve heard of me? Well, that’s not surprising because…â€Quote: “The Hooded Hood commanded that no action be taken against the heroes.â€Quote: “Well, sure, but for the amount of money deposited in my…â€Quote: VelcroVixen sliced a knife across Raptor Leader’s throat and watched him bleed out on the floor. “The Hooded Hood commanded that no action be taken against the heroes,†she repeated.Ouch! And here I thought the government had sent him and he was just a loyal soldier following orders. Farewell Raptor Leader One. Your one fan salutes you. Very interesting chart update too. Who knew Banjooooo is Al B.'s great great-great-grandson! In other news I should let you know I've been reading St George and the Dragon and am loving it immensely. I'm up to book 2. You had me from George's first line. | ||
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Subject: If you average them out you might get one normal person. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 09:42:06 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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A few interesting corollaries occured as I read this: 1. VV would report the "contact" to her employer, the Hooded Hood. 2. He would already know. He would not mind. 3. VV has not really had a proper conversation with a superhero since Josh Clement. 4. Hatman probably wouldn't mind that Lara was "trying to reform" VV (even Jarvis tried, though they just ended up in bed). 5. Of the present team, I'd think G-Eyed (fairly anti-Hood because of the whole Laurie thing etc.) and Nats might be the ones who'd see any friendship as a "betrayal". Yuki might want to conduct some kind of security evaulation, which might not go down well with Lara. 6. If the relationship does head into shipping territory, FLapjack is more than willing to hold a videocamera. | ||
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Subject: It is entirely possible that it is evolution. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 09:48:29 pm EST (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: Nice set up to the Resolution IW and a fun romp though the history of it all. Though it was a bit of a quick fix to all the bad stuff you did over the last few issues wasn't it? Oh the Dreaming Celstial made it all okay again. Maybe I've come to expect more difficult solutions for our heroes (we are what you have made us as readers). You think that's resolved? Or easy? Heh. Quote: This issue totally had to have art work by George Perez. All those heroes and villains lining up to take sides. I can see it. Some fun cameos too. Very interesting that they all knew the plot on that point too. Subtle machinations by the DC to get them into line? Everyone on the cast list has received "the call" and knows what's going to happen at midnight. They can feel it. Some have more developed understandings than others. Quote: Worrying that some of our cast are still missing. My worry was that I forgot some. Quote: Ouch! And here I thought the government had sent [Raptor leader One] and he was just a loyal soldier following orders. Quote: Farewell Raptor Leader One. Your one fan salutes you. DIdn't you listen to what VelcroVixen said? Quote: Very interesting chart update too. Who knew Banjooooo is Al B.'s great great-great-grandson!And he hasn't even tried to kill Al B. yet. Quote: In other news I should let you know I've been reading St George and the Dragon and am loving it immensely. I'm up to book 2. You had me from George's first line. Now I'm going to have to go and look up what that was. | ||
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Subject: I'm sure there will also be world changing destruction. [Re: HH] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 11:03:47 pm EST (Viewed 1007 times) | |
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Quote: You think that's resolved? Or easy?Quote: Heh.Snort. Indeed. Quote: Everyone on the cast list has received "the call" and knows what's going to happen at midnight. They can feel it. Some have more developed understandings than others.Some are still sleeping off a hangover. Quote: My worry was that I forgot some.Do you keep cheat sheets? With notes, etc.? Or is it all in your head? Quote: Quote: Ouch! And here I thought the government had sent [Raptor leader One] and he was just a loyal soldier following orders. Quote: Quote: Farewell Raptor Leader One. Your one fan salutes you. Quote: DIdn't you listen to what VelcroVixen said?Yes I did, I meant that's what I thought he was before I read this issue and found out he was just a merc for hire. Quote: Quote: Very interesting chart update too. Who knew Banjooooo is Al B.'s great great-great-grandson!Quote: And he hasn't even tried to kill Al B. yet.Again with the yet. Quote: Quote: In other news I should let you know I've been reading St George and the Dragon and am loving it immensely. I'm up to book 2. You had me from George's first line. Quote: Now I'm going to have to go and look up what that was.You captured what type of hero he is (or well, the one you were going to write about) perfectly with it. He hasn't let me down since (up to about 1/3 of book 2). | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: That sounds like too much math. [Re: HH] Posted Sat Jan 14, 2017 at 11:53:32 pm EST (Viewed 980 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 10.0.2 on MacOS X (0.09 points) Quote: 1. VV would report the "contact" to her employer, the Hooded Hood.Quote: 2. He would already know. He would not mind.Lara wouldn't mind if the Hooded Hood knew, either. She never meant the meeting to be secret. The whole cloak-and-dagger part was to avoid embarrassing VV in front of all of those 2nd rate villains at the signup. That would have made VV fight with her to save face, which wasn't the goal. Quote: 3. VV has not really had a proper conversation with a superhero since Josh Clement.Lara wouldn't remember that. She is very sensitive, though, and the short time she was around VV, she saw someone who had to put up with a lot of idiots, and had no one to really talk to. Lara found that to be sad, and decided to do something about it. Also, as I've said before, Lara is a firm believer in grey area. She would be the first to say that you never know what path VV's life took that brought her to this point, and it doesn't mean she's inherently evil. Lara believes if things were different in her life, she could be in the same place. Quote: 4. Hatman probably wouldn't mind that Lara was "trying to reform" VV (even Jarvis tried, though they just ended up in bed).I don't expect that Hatman will be annoyed at Lara offering friendship with VV except for two things: Lara doesn't really intend to change VV, only to offer friendship and maybe set a positive example. He might object to her privately though, if he feels like she's doing it all wrong or if he's afraid she's being used. I believe Mac Fleetwood would agree more with Lara's style, because she's refusing to judge. Quote: 5. Of the present team, I'd think G-Eyed (fairly anti-Hood because of the whole Laurie thing etc.) and Nats might be the ones who'd see any friendship as a "betrayal". Yuki might want to conduct some kind of security evaulation, which might not go down well with Lara.Yuki might rarely skip the evaluation just because Lara was the one who reached out first (if VV reached out first, she might be incredibly suspicious). She trusts Lara's judgement, and failing that, she knows Lara is not someone a supervillain would want to piss off. Also, it's not like VV will want to hang around the Lair Mansion while Lara isn't around, and have to deal with the supposed self-righteousness of some of its residents. Lara would probably tell G-Eyed and Nats to relax and stop worrying so much. Quote: 6. If the relationship does head into shipping territory, FLapjack is more than willing to hold a videocamera.He doesn't have one right now. Yuki smashed it again. | ||
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Subject: Too many people with minds that hate. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Sun Jan 15, 2017 at 09:02:55 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Everyone on the cast list has received "the call" and knows what's going to happen at midnight. They can feel it. Some have more developed understandings than others.Quote: Some are still sleeping off a hangover. It might explain why dull thud isn't there. Quote: Quote: My worry was that I forgot some.Quote: Do you keep cheat sheets? With notes, etc.? Or is it all in your head?This run of stories, with the exception of the proffered diagram, has all been in my head. That's why, while I think I know how it finishes, I might be surprised. Quote: Quote: Quote: Ouch! And here I thought the government had sent [Raptor leader One] and he was just a loyal soldier following orders. Quote: Quote: Farewell Raptor Leader One. Your one fan salutes you. Quote: Quote: DIdn't you listen to what VelcroVixen said?Quote: Yes I did, I meant that's what I thought he was before I read this issue and found out he was just a merc for hire. His original appearance did have a line about the fee being deposited in his account. The implication from the present issue is that the funds came from Screwdriver - who is notably not present at, or at least not speaking at, the Council of Archvillains thereafter. Quote: Quote: Quote: Very interesting chart update too. Who knew Banjooooo is Al B.'s great great-great-grandson!Quote: Quote: And he hasn't even tried to kill Al B. yet.The big revelation was Valeria's original lineage. Quote: Again with the yet. Indeed. But then, Aella is yet to try and kill Al B. also. Quote: Quote: Quote: In other news I should let you know I've been reading St George and the Dragon and am loving it immensely. I'm up to book 2. You had me from George's first line. Quote: Quote: Now I'm going to have to go and look up what that was.Quote: You captured what type of hero he is (or well, the one you were going to write about) perfectly with it. He hasn't let me down since (up to about 1/3 of book 2). I had to go and find the quote, then I found myelf reading the book. I hadn't actually done that before. It's quite readable (there's a pull quote!). | ||
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Subject: How much math is too much? [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun Jan 15, 2017 at 09:28:21 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: 1. VV would report the "contact" to her employer, the Hooded Hood.Quote: Quote: 2. He would already know. He would not mind.Quote: Lara wouldn't mind if the Hooded Hood knew, either. She never meant the meeting to be secret. The whole cloak-and-dagger part was to avoid embarrassing VV in front of all of those 2nd rate villains at the signup. That would have made VV fight with her to save face, which wasn't the goal.Vicki's relationships with supervillains are very controlled. She uses sexuality as part of her arsenal, but very rarely with other villains. The exeption is "boss level" villains - she's a "full service" kind of right hand hench and she does seem to go for the leader types. The Hooded Hood is the only eligible archvillain she's worked for who hasn't slept with her. You're probably right about VV's gender preference too, but she has slept with women (incuding CSFB!'s mom Meggan Foxxxx, available on video, from the days when VV had a secret ID that worked in adult entertainment). But then, she's had sex with quite a lot of ugly old men she wasn't that into either. Quote: Quote: 3. VV has not really had a proper conversation with a superhero since Josh Clement.Quote: Lara wouldn't remember that. I'm not sure it was ever that known. It was something poster-DBS alluded to but I don't remember if he ever actually gave us the talk "on-screen". I'll ask Rhiannon. Mind you, DBS was the guy who managed to convince Anvil Man to go for a pint with him. Quote: She is very sensitive, though, and the short time she was around VV, she saw someone who had to put up with a lot of idiots, and had no one to really talk to. Lara found that to be sad, and decided to do something about it.VV's somewhat outdated character description linked off the Who's Who says: VelcroVixen (Field Leader) But that really doesn't give us much background on one of the very few characters who run around holding their own amongst a bunch of much more powerful superhumans and nonhumans (Trickshot is possibly the nearest comparator). After all this time she doesn't really have an origin (I valuely recall that she may have been raised in the orphanage of the sinister Little Sisters of Discipline like Lisa and Dr Moo but I may be wrong). Quote: Also, as I've said before, Lara is a firm believer in grey area. She would be the first to say that you never know what path VV's life took that brought her to this point, and it doesn't mean she's inherently evil. Lara believes if things were different in her life, she could be in the same place.Lara might also wish to speculate what the Hooded Hood may have altered in Vicki's past to arrange the circumstances that forged VV into such an effective instrument for his purposes. Quote: Quote: 4. Hatman probably wouldn't mind that Lara was "trying to reform" VV (even Jarvis tried, though they just ended up in bed).Quote: I don't expect that Hatman will be annoyed at Lara offering friendship with VV except for two things: Lara doesn't really intend to change VV, only to offer friendship and maybe set a positive example. He might object to her privately though, if he feels like she's doing it all wrong or if he's afraid she's being used.Jay just can't stop trying to reform people. It worked with Silicone Sally and Zvestri Zdrugo. It probably wouldn't occur to him that Lara might associate with VV and not try to reform her. Quote: I believe Mac Fleetwood would agree more with Lara's style, because she's refusing to judge.Mac is perhaps better aware of the number of people that VelcroVixen has harmed or killed (although she received a legal amnesty after the Parody War so isn't actually wanted for crimes right now), so he might be more cautious of her. He wouldn't throw her out (nor could he, physically) and he would listen to her, but Lara comes to the conversation with less unpleasant back-history. Quote: Quote: 5. Of the present team, I'd think G-Eyed (fairly anti-Hood because of the whole Laurie thing etc.) and Nats might be the ones who'd see any friendship as a "betrayal". Yuki might want to conduct some kind of security evaulation, which might not go down well with Lara.Quote: Yuki might rarely skip the evaluation just because Lara was the one who reached out first (if VV reached out first, she might be incredibly suspicious). She trusts Lara's judgement, and failing that, she knows Lara is not someone a supervillain would want to piss off. Also, it's not like VV will want to hang around the Lair Mansion while Lara isn't around, and have to deal with the supposed self-righteousness of some of its residents.Yuki might worry about how Lara got the idea to appraoch VV. After all, the Hood yanked Lara across the galaxy to experience the events that prompted Lara's call. I suspect Yuki considers these kinds of things. Quote: Lara would probably tell G-Eyed and Nats to relax and stop worrying so much.Argument follows. Quote: Quote: 6. If the relationship does head into shipping territory, FLapjack is more than willing to hold a videocamera.Quote: He doesn't have one right now. Yuki smashed it again.He'd be okay just watching and taking detailed notes. | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Any of it. [Re: HH] Posted Sun Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46:23 am EST (Viewed 928 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 10.0.2 on MacOS X (0.23 points) Quote: Vicki's relationships with supervillains are very controlled. She uses sexuality as part of her arsenal, but very rarely with other villains. The exeption is "boss level" villains - she's a "full service" kind of right hand hench and she does seem to go for the leader types. The Hooded Hood is the only eligible archvillain she's worked for who hasn't slept with her.When I came up wit this mini-story idea, THAT'S what cemented what I thought her reaction to Lara might be. When they were on that clockwork ship, and then the dimensional dreadnaught, it occurred to me that VV probably thought of Lara as kind of an enigma. The blonde made no attempt to be high-and-mighty or fight with anyone. And from Lara's point of view, she saw in VV someone who puts up with a lot of crap to stay in her place in life, and who can never let her guard down. She wondered how awful that would be if she were stuck in the same situation. That's what made her reach out like that. Quote: You're probably right about VV's gender preference too, but she has slept with women (incuding CSFB!'s mom Meggan Foxxxx, available on video, from the days when VV had a secret ID that worked in adult entertainment). But then, she's had sex with quite a lot of ugly old men she wasn't that into either.I didn't actually make it clear whether VV was being completely honest about that, or was just drawing boundaries. Quote: But that really doesn't give us much background on one of the very few characters who run around holding their own amongst a bunch of much more powerful superhumans and nonhumans (Trickshot is possibly the nearest comparator). After all this time she doesn't really have an origin (I valuely recall that she may have been raised in the orphanage of the sinister Little Sisters of Discipline like Lisa and Dr Moo but I may be wrong).It did help that VV reminded Lara a lot of the Psychic Samurai, someone who worked among criminals and survived without super-powered fighting skills. But she also knows that Chiaki had stable friends she could look to. Chiaki believes strongly in the grey area, too, and would have no objection to what Lara is attempting. But she would warn Lara not to take it personally if VV turns on her for her own benefit. Not because she believes VV to be evil; just opportunistic. So she would tell Lara also that she might have to be open to giving VV a lot of second chances. Quote: Lara might also wish to speculate what the Hooded Hood may have altered in Vicki's past to arrange the circumstances that forged VV into such an effective instrument for his purposes.That's a part of it, too. Quote: Jay just can't stop trying to reform people. It worked with Silicone Sally and Zvestri Zdrugo. It probably wouldn't occur to him that Lara might associate with VV and not try to reform her.Lara would explain that she feels it's rude to have an ulterior motive while offering friendship. That if it leads to VV reforming, that's awesome, but it shouldn't be the goal. Quote: Mac is perhaps better aware of the number of people that VelcroVixen has harmed or killed (although she received a legal amnesty after the Parody War so isn't actually wanted for crimes right now), so he might be more cautious of her. He wouldn't throw her out (nor could he, physically) and he would listen to her, but Lara comes to the conversation with less unpleasant back-history.I do think Mac would be wary, but I also think he definitely would approve of not considering VV "lost" and giving up on her. Remember also that Lara is far more brave with this because she knows VV has little chance of being able to harm her, so she can afford to take a little more risk. Quote: Yuki might worry about how Lara got the idea to appraoch VV. After all, the Hood yanked Lara across the galaxy to experience the events that prompted Lara's call. I suspect Yuki considers these kinds of things.Lara would reassure Yuki that it was entirely her idea. She's aware that the Hooded Hood might have somehow arranged for her to meet VV up close and feel bad for her lacking a friend, but she still believes it's worth a try. Yuki might be worried that the Hooded Hood set the whole thing up to get VV into the Lair Mansion to do something really subtle. Subtle, rather than an outright murder by VV in the mansion, because the detective in her estimates that VV would want to be able to enter the Lair Mansion multiple times, rather than throw everything away on a one-shot gambit. But that's not enough for Yuki to stop it entirely. In fact, she wouldn't; she would quietly keep an eye on things so she can deduce what exactly VV does in there. Also note that it's unlikely Lara would bring VV into the mansion and just let her walk around unattended for a day. Both because she's not 100% sure of VV yet, and also because she knows any friendship right now is very fragile, and someone like G-Eyed or Nats confronting VV in the halls would be disastrous. Quote: Argument follows.Lara would probably walk away from an argument from the two of them. Eventually she might refer them to Chiaki, who would tell them to watch, wait, and learn. Chiaki doesn't take any arguments. Or to Yuki, who would first tell them to shut up, because they're giving her a headache, then tell them that she's keeping an eye on things personally. Quote: He'd be okay just watching and taking detailed notes.He'll be disappointed anyhow when it's all boring conversation. | ||
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Subject: I know it's gonna be all right. [Re: HH] Posted Sun Jan 15, 2017 at 09:18:56 pm EST (Viewed 1019 times) | |
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Quote: It might explain why dull thud isn't there.That was my very thought. Quote: Do you keep cheat sheets? With notes, etc.? Or is it all in your head?Quote: This run of stories, with the exception of the proffered diagram, has all been in my head. That's why, while I think I know how it finishes, I might be surprised. I'm impressed that you can keep it all together in your head with such a cast. Quote: His original appearance did have a line about the fee being deposited in his account. The implication from the present issue is that the funds came from Screwdriver - who is notably not present at, or at least not speaking at, the Council of Archvillains thereafter.Interesting. Quote: The big revelation was Valeria's original lineage.Yes, I saw that. I thought I must have just not remembered the story behind that revelation. Always good to have a spare baby of destiny out there. I also noted the child reserved for future schemes. Who I'm thinking is another big revelation. Quote: Quote: Again with the yet. Quote: Indeed. But then, Aella is yet to try and kill Al B. also.... Quote: I had to go and find the quote, then I found myelf reading the book. I hadn't actually done that before. It's quite readable (there's a pull quote!).It is! On both counts. | ||
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Subject: I'm confused.... [Re: The Hooded Hood chronicles the end times] Posted Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 12:54:35 am EST (Viewed 1040 times) | |
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Partly due to the fact I've only read parts of the recent UT epic(s) but also because my knowledge of Pardyversian history is spotty at best. In possibly related ideas: I've always thought that at the very end of the Parodyverse there would only be 2 people around to see the how it all ended. Those two people would be Chad & Ronnie. Not sure what they'd be doing at the end or why they survived. Just that I've always liked the idea of Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around. Little Cat, their hamster, might also be there. He's not a "person" so that works with Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around. If even had any sort of idea of what exactly was happening going on in this epic I might try a tie-in story but I doubt that'll happen. | ||
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Subject: Re: I'm confused.... [Re: L!] Posted Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 03:47:41 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: Partly due to the fact I've only read parts of the recent UT epic(s) but also because my knowledge of Pardyversian history is spotty at best.This story more than most is really a novel in multiple parts (hence the chapter numbers) so I can understand why you'd be a bit baffled coming in now. I am trying to mkae sure that each section covers at least the minimum information about the who's and what's, but this chapter in particular was hard to do that in. I had to make a choice between readability and recap info-dump. Quote: In possibly related ideas: I've always thought that at the very end of the Parodyverse there would only be 2 people around to see the how it all ended. Those two people would be Chad & Ronnie. Not sure what they'd be doing at the end or why they survived. Just that I've always liked the idea of Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around. Little Cat, their hamster, might also be there. He's not a "person" so that works with Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around.I see them on those fold-upbeach chairs, possibly with a flask of coffee and some sandwiches. Quote: If even had any sort of idea of what exactly was happening going on in this epic I might try a tie-in story but I doubt that'll happen.Noted. | ||
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Subject: Well, you say you have a real solution, we'd all love to hear the plan. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 03:54:57 pm EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Do you keep cheat sheets? With notes, etc.? Or is it all in your head?Quote: This run of stories, with the exception of the proffered diagram, has all been in my head. That's why, while I think I know how it finishes, I might be surprised. Quote: I'm impressed that you can keep it all together in your head with such a cast. I've had a fair bit of practise. I find it very useful when I'm writing other, "proper" stories that require large-cast shuffling. Quote: Quote: The big revelation was Valeria's original lineage.Quote: Yes, I saw that. I thought I must have just not remembered the story behind that revelation. Quote: Always good to have a spare baby of destiny out there. You need to go back and look again. I've updated the diagram a little after some corrections from Rhiannon. She also tells me that I may be wrong about Suicide Blonde being dead; she might only have lost her powers. This will require further research. Quote: I also noted the child reserved for future schemes. Who I'm thinking is another big revelation. That's one of the amendments. That child has been revealed - and killed by the Carnifex! And I had completely forgotten about both. Quote: Quote: I had to go and find the quote, then I found myself reading the book. I hadn't actually done that before. It's quite readable (there's a pull quote!).Quote: It is! On both counts. I've just wasted a day reading the damn books now. And I spotted two typos and three formatting errors. | ||
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Subject: And now with added content from the thread below. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 04:37:38 pm EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Vicki's relationships with supervillains are very controlled. She uses sexuality as part of her arsenal, but very rarely with other villains. The exeption is "boss level" villains - she's a "full service" kind of right hand hench and she does seem to go for the leader types. The Hooded Hood is the only eligible archvillain she's worked for who hasn't slept with her.Quote: When I came up wit this mini-story idea, THAT'S what cemented what I thought her reaction to Lara might be. When they were on that clockwork ship, and then the dimensional dreadnaught, it occurred to me that VV probably thought of Lara as kind of an enigma. The blonde made no attempt to be high-and-mighty or fight with anyone.VV does appreciate professionalism. Quote: And from Lara's point of view, she saw in VV someone who puts up with a lot of crap to stay in her place in life, and who can never let her guard down. She wondered how awful that would be if she were stuck in the same situation. That's what made her reach out like that.Vicki's a non-powered female who keeps up with - and field leads - the elite supervillain-for-hire outfit in the Parodyverse, their "Masters of Evil"-style varsity. She has to be smarter, more prepared, tougher, and more dangerous than any of them to survive. That's almost Batman levels of preparedness (and a large range of appropriate gadgetry). VV is a confident career criminal but she's not averse to talking with someone who approaches her in a decent manner. She's less likely to try her "wiles" on a female superhero than a male one (e.g. Jarvis, CSFB! DBS, Danny Lyle) Quote: It did help that VV reminded Lara a lot of the Psychic Samurai, someone who worked among criminals and survived without super-powered fighting skills. But she also knows that Chiaki had stable friends she could look to.VV comes from that long tradition of beautiful "bad girl" criminals with a yearning for the good guy that includes The Spirit's P'Gell, Batman's Catwoman, and Iron Man's original portrayal of the Black Widow. None of them have many close relationships. Quote: Chiaki believes strongly in the grey area, too, and would have no objection to what Lara is attempting. But she would warn Lara not to take it personally if VV turns on her for her own benefit. Not because she believes VV to be evil; just opportunistic. So she would tell Lara also that she might have to be open to giving VV a lot of second chances.Since the time VV became a Purveyor of Peril she's only ever initiated plans against the heroes under contract, not of her own initiative. She'd have to have firm orders to turn on Lara. One of the reason VV prefers working for the Hood is that he tends not to issue orders that she finds distasteful. Quote: Lara would explain [to Jay] that she feels it's rude to have an ulterior motive while offering friendship. That if it leads to VV reforming, that's awesome, but it shouldn't be the goal.I doubt Hatty would much disagree with that, but might add that real friendship would include helping VV reform. Quote: I do think Mac would be wary, but I also think he definitely would approve of not considering VV "lost" and giving up on her.I'm sure he would approve of Lara's initiative. Quote: Remember also that Lara is far more brave with this because she knows VV has little chance of being able to harm her, so she can afford to take a little more risk.That might be an underestimation given the levels of resource VV has available to her. In a sudden face-off VV would have no chance, but with planning and a trap she might be able to cause Lara serious trouble. VV has access to Al B. Harper-level tech and even psionics and magic that might be deployed to level the playing field. The comics parallel is probaly thinking about how Batman - or Batgirl - might prep to take down an energy-wielder of Lara's magnitude. I have no doubt that Batman would somehow find a way. I don't think that VV is in his class, but she's not too far off it. The other danger that some of the LL might worry about is if VV deploys some of her Purveyor team-mates, a few of whom have powers that might match or counter Lara's abilities. Quote: Yuki might be worried that the Hooded Hood set the whole thing up to get VV into the Lair Mansion to do something really subtle. Subtle, rather than an outright murder by VV in the mansion, because the detective in her estimates that VV would want to be able to enter the Lair Mansion multiple times, rather than throw everything away on a one-shot gambit.Yuki would probably recognise that the Hood has wandered into the Lair Mansion on a number of occasions, one of the few villains who seems able to breach security there with relative impunity. So access there might not be an objective. There are plenty of other things he might want VV to arrange for him, from information and misdirection to arranging Lara to be placed in particlar circumstances at particular times. There is also the question of Lara's link to the Baroness' new henchwoman, Cathode. The Hood might well wish for an "in" on Cathode, both psychologically and regarding addressing her metahuman abilities. Quote: Also note that it's unlikely Lara would bring VV into the mansion and just let her walk around unattended for a day. Both because she's not 100% sure of VV yet, and also because she knows any friendship right now is very fragile, and someone like G-Eyed or Nats confronting VV in the halls would be disastrous.It is unlikely that VV would trust enough for a visit the the Lair Mansion. Maybe the Bean and Donut. Quote: Quote: Argument follows.Quote: Lara would probably walk away from an argument from the two of them. They'd keep arguing between themselves. G-Eyed and Nats have a long history of not really getting on with each other. It's possibly the greatest rift between two members of the Lair Legion. [Meanwhile, continuing from UT#359 at http://parodyverse.strike-two.com/app/show.php?rpy=parodyverse-2017011504141856&layout=thread] Quote: Quote: That's overlooking the massive contributions to science, medicine, and astronomy that churchmen have made throughout history. Quote: I meant that the entire fear of science and technology in general is based on the thought that each level of technology takes us further from the "paradise" of Eden and into a world where we worship science and technology instead. Which I don't mind, but some religious types have a problem with that.They should read their damn book, then. The story starts with a garden and ends with a city - it's entirely about progress and "growing up". But yes, that's an idea some hold. They'd probably be horrifed to find that the theology comes not from Christian scripture but from the Graeco-Roman doctrines of a "golden age" and from Eastern religions that view time as cyclical. There is some hint of the lost paradise thing in The Book of Genesis and the Jewish Torah that interprets it with the diminishing lifespans of the patriarchs, from Methuselah's thousand years down to contemporary "threescore years and ten", but mostly even that book is about God promising not a return to Eden but the coming of a Kingdom. Where that sits with the Western European Catholic church of the late middle ages and their suspicion of some aspects of physics and astronomy I'm not quite sure. Perhaps some aspect of it was about control or information and technology. But once the printing press was out there it was game over. Quote: Quote: It's specially designed to be ambiguous, actually. Is it a throne? Is it just a really nice chair? What is he trying to say with it?Quote: Yuki would say he's compensating for something. She would say it to his face, too.He would request her not to utter indiscreet trivialities in an attempt to buoy her chosen projected persona in his presence; it is unworthy of her. Quote: Quote: I suppose in the most recent case she might have also borrowed 1/3 of the Doomherald's pants, but as I see it that reconstruction thing is very tricky anyway.Quote: Yuki would say that he always did want to get her into his pants. She would say that to his face, too.Well Exu had a sense of humour. | ||
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Subject: Again with the clickbait. [Re: HH] Posted Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 05:56:25 pm EST (Viewed 1004 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 10.0.2 on MacOS X (0.05 points) Quote: VV does appreciate professionalism.Remember, Lara is young but she's been doing this superhero thing for almost a decade. If there's one thing she learned it's how to be professional about it. Quote: VV is a confident career criminal but she's not averse to talking with someone who approaches her in a decent manner. She's less likely to try her "wiles" on a female superhero than a male one (e.g. Jarvis, CSFB! DBS, Danny Lyle)That would also be counter to what Lara is trying to do. She wants VV to feel comfortable around her. And yes, she's aware that it's a tall order, since VV likely hasn't trusted anyone since she can remember, and/or was stabbed in the back for it previously. Quote: VV comes from that long tradition of beautiful "bad girl" criminals with a yearning for the good guy that includes The Spirit's P'Gell, Batman's Catwoman, and Iron Man's original portrayal of the Black Widow. None of them have many close relationships.One of Lara's best friends back home is a former gangster - one who was never caught or arrested. Part of why she has an affinity for the Psychic Samurai. This friend was the first person to teach her to fight without her powers. It was the friendship with Lara that made that friend leave behind her old dangerous life - but without Lara ever asking her to. So Lara is no stranger to befriending people on the "other side". She doesn't have that inherent fear most people do toward them. Quote: One of the reason VV prefers working for the Hood is that he tends not to issue orders that she finds distasteful.And she might find it *really* distasteful if she finally has someone to talk to who doesn't judge her, and someone asks her to kill that friend. That makes it sound a bit like Lara is trying to befriend VV to save herself, but ironically, that wasn't part of the plan at all. She genuinely feels like VV is alone in the world and unhappy, and that everyone deserves a friend. Quote: I doubt Hatty would much disagree with that, but might add that real friendship would include helping VV reform.She might use some of Chiaki's wisdom to answer that one; You can't truly reform anyone, they have to choose it for themselves to fully embrace it. Quote: I'm sure he would approve of Lara's initiative.Of course he would, he has that same gentle approach from what I've seen. Quote: That might be an underestimation given the levels of resource VV has available to her. In a sudden face-off VV would have no chance, but with planning and a trap she might be able to cause Lara serious trouble. VV has access to Al B. Harper-level tech and even psionics and magic that might be deployed to level the playing field.I didn't say there was zero chance; Lara is taking *some* risk. But she's betting that she's right, that VV can use someone to talk to more than she can use yet another dead or captured hero in her wake. She's also aware that there are others who might not want Lara anywhere near VV, and might try to harm her for it. It's a delicate balance. Quote: The other danger that some of the LL might worry about is if VV deploys some of her Purveyor team-mates, a few of whom have powers that might match or counter Lara's abilities.Now that might cause some friction; because Lara believes it's worth the risk. Some others in the LL might not believe the same thing. Yuki would be cautious, but she would still approve Lara's approach. If Lara can make friends with VV, it holds the potential of keeping the entire Lair Legion safer. If she fails, it's just another fight in the history of the LL. Quote: There are plenty of other things he might want VV to arrange for him, from information and misdirection to arranging Lara to be placed in particlar circumstances at particular times.It's all about weighing the risks. Yuki sees a much bigger payoff if this works out. She's had one foot in the criminal underworld long enough to know that most of them are treated like garbage, and are never really all that civil to each other. Maybe VV is at a stage where she wants an introduction. Maybe she wants to be at the next Lair Legion barbecue. And as I mentioned, she'd believe the risk is minimal, because if it all goes wrong or Lara is falling into a trap...it's would be the first time. If it goes right though, *that* is a big first. Quote: There is also the question of Lara's link to the Baroness' new henchwoman, Cathode. The Hood might well wish for an "in" on Cathode, both psychologically and regarding addressing her metahuman abilities.Lara doesn't quite trust Cathode yet, because she sees Cath as being too eager to please her boss. She can spot someone who will bow and break under pressure. Part of why she's reaching out to VV is she sees that VV is someone fiercely independent that doesn't really need the people who hire her. But, if Cath reaches out to her as a mentor, she's not one to turn her down. Quote: It is unlikely that VV would trust enough for a visit the the Lair Mansion. Maybe the Bean and Donut.It would indeed be really difficult for Lara to convince VV that it's safe. Quote: They'd keep arguing between themselves. G-Eyed and Nats have a long history of not really getting on with each other. It's possibly the greatest rift between two members of the Lair Legion.Eventually Yuki would stumble upon them...or hear them from several floors away...and tell them both to shut up. Quote: They should read their damn book, then. The story starts with a garden and ends with a city - it's entirely about progress and "growing up".They should, because the entire story they interpret as being kicked out of paradise is actually about humankind leaving ignorance behind and growing into something better. It's a simple and profound lesson. Quote: He would request her not to utter indiscreet trivialities in an attempt to buoy her chosen projected persona in his presence; it is unworthy of her.That would only prompt her to say, "Yep. Definitely compensating." She likes to irritate him, it's funny. | ||
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Subject: Are you asking me for a contribution? [Re: HH] Posted Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 07:08:39 pm EST (Viewed 984 times) | |
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Quote: You need to go back and look again. I've updated the diagram a little after some corrections from Rhiannon. She also tells me that I may be wrong about Suicide Blonde being dead; she might only have lost her powers. This will require further research.Interesting. I did have a look to see if I could find where she died the other day (not a very hard look though). Quote: Quote: I also noted the child reserved for future schemes. Who I'm thinking is another big revelation. Quote: That's one of the amendments. That child has been revealed - and killed by the Carnifex! And I had completely forgotten about both.Ha! Me too. Which should be no surprise. Quote: I've just wasted a day reading the damn books now. And I spotted two typos and three formatting errors.Well, that's not a day wasted then is it! I finished it yesterday too. It was a very enjoyable story. George is a fun reluctant hero, almost Conan-eque in a way. That time period is ripe for stories with a fantasy element, I'm surprised we haven't had more of them. You certainly did a great job in researching both his back history, and ancient Cyrene. | ||
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Subject: Go out of town for a couple days and all hell breaks lose... [Re: The Hooded Hood chronicles the end times] Posted Mon Jan 16, 2017 at 10:52:04 pm EST (Viewed 1086 times) | |
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Or rather, it all gets overly organized before breaking lose. It was fun seeing the various characters queueing up for the big conflict. That's going to be a hell of a cover shot when they're divided into two matched lines staring each other down. Even George Perez's drawing hand might fall off. Lots of exposition setting things up, but the mix of personalities on both sides kept it lively. I'm torn between wanting the whole thing avoided altogether and seeing some of the epic final confrontations. On a tangent, the villains may have to learn to share... heroes often have multiple villains, but villains are rarely focused on multiple heroes. Some egos are going to be bruised when they find out they're not really the true nemesis of their hated rival after all. | ||
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Subject: Well, we're all doing what we can. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 08:47:26 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: You need to go back and look again. I've updated the diagram a little after some corrections from Rhiannon. She also tells me that I may be wrong about Suicide Blonde being dead; she might only have lost her powers. This will require further research.Quote: Interesting. I did have a look to see if I could find where she died the other day (not a very hard look though). I knew I'd contrived to get Bry into being the "last inheritor" of their joint power, and I'd de-powered Exile to do it. I'm surprised that I repeated the same trick with Bambi. Quote: Quote: I've just wasted a day reading the damn books now. And I spotted two typos and three formatting errors.Quote: Well, that's not a day wasted then is it! I finished it yesterday too. It was a very enjoyable story. George is a fun reluctant hero, almost Conan-eque in a way. That time period is ripe for stories with a fantasy element, I'm surprised we haven't had more of them. You certainly did a great job in researching both his back history, and ancient Cyrene. I do like to get my back-drop to my satisfaction in my pseudo-historical settings. I had the same trouble with my ROBIN HOOD series (whose protagonist is a bit more light-hearted con-artist than George, with less soldier and more swashbuckle) and my most recent novel, LABOURS OF HERCULES, whose approach to much fighting and all women is pretty direct. The nearest I've ever got to Conan, though, is my unsubmitted novel THE FALL OF BABEL, a whodunnit set in the actual Biblical tower just before it topples. Drawing on Hebrew myth, the king there - and our investigator - is Nimrod the Hunter, a mighty warrior of great appetites and mighty thews. It's Conan meets Conan Doyle! His assistant for the investigation is a sacrificial virgin. Together they fight crime. The only reason I haven't put that book out is that I really like it and I'm holding off for a good offer from a publisher who might actually promote it. Coincidentally I may have one, and I have to get the thing sent off by the 23rd of this month. | ||
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Subject: It's good that you admit liability. [Re: Visionary] Posted Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 08:59:05 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Or rather, it all gets overly organized before breaking lose. It was fun seeing the various characters queueing up for the big conflict. That's going to be a hell of a cover shot when they're divided into two matched lines staring each other down. Even George Perez's drawing hand might fall off.While you were out of town we took a vote and decided you should draw it instead. But we're not expecting it before the weekend. Quote: Lots of exposition setting things up, but the mix of personalities on both sides kept it lively. I'm torn between wanting the whole thing avoided altogether and seeing some of the epic final confrontations. On a tangent, the villains may have to learn to share... heroes often have multiple villains, but villains are rarely focused on multiple heroes. Some egos are going to be bruised when they find out they're not really the true nemesis of their hated rival after all. My problem is the Hooded Hood. I have a list of ways he could do very minor retcons that would kill each member of the Lair Legion if they ever fought again. It's hard to overcome that, especially given that he doesn't even need to be anywhere near the heroes to trigger them. For that matter, just starting off a chain of events that awakens Chabba'Dhabba'Dhu under Paradopolis would be a good start. The Hood wouldn't usually do that, because he has no wish to revive the Fairly great old Ones in general, but given an imperative, why not? Or, to keep it simple, why not just retcon temporary Death's part in the previous three issues? If Tracy wasn't facilitating the shift to comic-book limbo then there's most of the heroes wiped out straight off. He really only needs the time-travellers plus Liu Xi and ManMan to take down Wilbur. So I need to work out a way for the Hood not to wipe out all the heroes in the first half minute after midnight. And he's just one of the planned-up archvillains who must have anti-League contingencies in a back pocket. There are certainly others. | ||
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Subject: What is clickbaity about that? (Look inside to see) [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 09:15:30 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: VV is a confident career criminal but she's not averse to talking with someone who approaches her in a decent manner. She's less likely to try her "wiles" on a female superhero than a male one (e.g. Jarvis, CSFB! DBS, Danny Lyle)Quote: That would also be counter to what Lara is trying to do. She wants VV to feel comfortable around her. And yes, she's aware that it's a tall order, since VV likely hasn't trusted anyone since she can remember, and/or was stabbed in the back for it previously.That would require some background development for Vicki, something I've singularly failed to do since 1999. Quote: One of Lara's best friends back home is a former gangster - one who was never caught or arrested. Part of why she has an affinity for the Psychic Samurai. This friend was the first person to teach her to fight without her powers. It was the friendship with Lara that made that friend leave behind her old dangerous life - but without Lara ever asking her to.VV seems to love being a supervillainess. She knows she's good at it. Quote: Quote: One of the reason VV prefers working for the Hood is that he tends not to issue orders that she finds distasteful.Quote: And she might find it *really* distasteful if she finally has someone to talk to who doesn't judge her, and someone asks her to kill that friend.She'd do it if her contract required it, but it doesn't mean she'd like it. During the Saving the Future events she tried to kill former teammate Mary Prankstar, for example. Quote: That makes it sound a bit like Lara is trying to befriend VV to save herself, but ironically, that wasn't part of the plan at all. She genuinely feels like VV is alone in the world and unhappy, and that everyone deserves a friend.Quote: Quote: I doubt Hatty would much disagree with that, but might add that real friendship would include helping VV reform.Quote: She might use some of Chiaki's wisdom to answer that one; You can't truly reform anyone, they have to choose it for themselves to fully embrace it.Hatman thinks you can reform someone. It might even be a duty. His work at the Zero Street Mission ball team and with the GMY Care Centre are his ways of trying. Quote: Quote: That might be an underestimation given the levels of resource VV has available to her. Quote: I didn't say there was zero chance; Lara is taking *some* risk. But she's betting that she's right, that VV can use someone to talk to more than she can use yet another dead or captured hero in her wake.One might argue that without taking the risk, Lara's overtures have no credibility. Quote: She's also aware that there are others who might not want Lara anywhere near VV, and might try to harm her for it. It's a delicate balance.The objections might not come from Lara's friends but from VV's colleagues. Quote: And as I mentioned, she'd believe the risk is minimal, because if it all goes wrong or Lara is falling into a trap...it's would be the first time. If it goes right though, *that* is a big first.Noted. Quote: Lara doesn't quite trust Cathode yet, because she sees Cath as being too eager to please her boss. She can spot someone who will bow and break under pressure. Part of why she's reaching out to VV is she sees that VV is someone fiercely independent that doesn't really need the people who hire her.Quote: But, if Cath reaches out to her as a mentor, she's not one to turn her down.Silicone Sally will weigh in here when it becomes clear that Beth has created a new henchwoman for herself. Create is the proper term, because as with Sally, the Baroness seems to have included some mental alterations to her test subject, altering Cath's personality somewhat. Sally Rezilyant found herself much more compliant and much less bothered by conscience after she received her powers. Sally is suspicious that Cathode's friendly cheerfulness is another manifestation of similar programming. Quote: Quote: It is unlikely that VV would trust enough for a visit the the Lair Mansion. Maybe the Bean and Donut.Quote: It would indeed be really difficult for Lara to convince VV that it's safe.Everyone knows the Bean and Donut is neutral ground. Otherwise the waitress stares at you. And not only do lots of superheroes eat there, it is where the Hooded Hood goes for coffee. It is the most stupid place to rob in the entire Parodyverse. And it's owner lost an arm fighting the Parody Master one-on-one. Quote: Quote: They'd keep arguing between themselves. G-Eyed and Nats have a long history of not really getting on with each other. It's possibly the greatest rift between two members of the Lair Legion.Quote: Eventually Yuki would stumble upon them...or hear them from several floors away...and tell them both to shut up.Rinse and repeat. Quote: Quote: He would request her not to utter indiscreet trivialities in an attempt to buoy her chosen projected persona in his presence; it is unworthy of her.Quote: That would only prompt her to say, "Yep. Definitely compensating." She likes to irritate him, it's funny.It's all funny until someone loses a brain-body interface. | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Inside where? [Re: HH] Posted Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 10:44:35 am EST (Viewed 983 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 10.0.2 on MacOS X (0.03 points) Quote: That would require some background development for Vicki, something I've singularly failed to do since 1999.Back home, Lara wasn't just the muscle behind her super-team, she has a non-super talent for figuring out just what kind of person she's dealing with. It was grown out of her killing her first super-powered encounter, and not wanting her entire career to become a killing spree. Quote: VV seems to love being a supervillainess. She knows she's good at it.Of course she does. That's why Lara wouldn't attempt to change that perception until VV becomes really dissatisfied with it. As long as she's happy, Lara won't bother her about it, but if she looks for a way out, now she might have a friend to help her. From Lara's point of view, she doesn't believe that she's *always* doing the right thing. Sometimes she has to do some pretty awful things to prevent bigger awful things. She doesn't believe herself to be better than VV, only following a different path. The attempt at friendship is because she sees that VV walks that path alone. Quote: She'd do it if her contract required it, but it doesn't mean she'd like it. During the Saving the Future events she tried to kill former teammate Mary Prankstar, for example.And that's where Chiaki's warning comes in. Chiaki knows what it's like being asked to do really distasteful things because the boss requests it. If that did happen, Lara would be disappointed. She'd probably try to offer VV a way to turn the tables on whoever hired her. She might even convince Chiaki to get involved. VV probably knows what the Psychic Samurai is capable of. And it might work simply because Chiaki knows a bad contract when she sees one, and she *will* take it up with whoever made it. Quote: Hatman thinks you can reform someone. It might even be a duty. His work at the Zero Street Mission ball team and with the GMY Care Centre are his ways of trying.Somewhat related aside: This is related to the hidden story of how he and Chiaki broke up because they stopped communicating. They're both incredibly stubborn people. Chiaki has a very mellow attitude toward things like reforming people, and believes it takes a lot of time and patience, and that you have to use a nurturing approach, and allow them to choose. And she's okay with that sometimes it just doesn't work. Hatman would find that way extremely frustrating. Hatman would think more along the lines of that it won't happen unless you believe it will happen, and unless you get the other person to believe as well. That approach is much more brute force, and has a higher initial success rate just like a salesperson's. But then Chiaki would counter with "buyer's remorse" - unless they fully embrace it, they might revert to their previous behavior. How that relates to why they broke up is Hatman became impatient and frustrated with her over something, and she eventually stopped telling him things to avoid getting him that way, which made him even more upset. Eventually they just lost the ability to communicate at all. Of course true to their natures, Chiaki feels it was an unavoidable tragedy, and Hatman blames himself for letting it happen. Which means even their unreconcilable differences are unreconcilable. Initially, though, they were together because they got a peek at each other's vulnerable sides, and it was a comfort for both of them to be together when no one else really fully understood them. Quote: One might argue that without taking the risk, Lara's overtures have no credibility.There's always *some* risk. It doesn't have to be getting killed, it could be simply the risk of being rejected and mocked, or Hatman or Yuki being very upset that she'd reach out to the "other side" like that. Quote: The objections might not come from Lara's friends but from VV's colleagues.Lara did think about that. She's not particularly worried about the Hooded Hood - not because she feels like she knows him, but because she feels like if he had a grievance he'd take it up with her directly instead of sending a squad of assassins after her. The others, she's not particularly intimidated by them. But for the interests of keeping the peace, if she's confronted by them she'd try to convince them that she has no intention of harming VV. Quote: Silicone Sally will weigh in here when it becomes clear that Beth has created a new henchwoman for herself. Create is the proper term, because as with Sally, the Baroness seems to have included some mental alterations to her test subject, altering Cath's personality somewhat. Sally Rezilyant found herself much more compliant and much less bothered by conscience after she received her powers. Sally is suspicious that Cathode's friendly cheerfulness is another manifestation of similar programming.That programming might be what Lara sees as "too eager to please her boss" and what makes Cath appear to her to be too fragile. Quote: Everyone knows the Bean and Donut is neutral ground. Otherwise the waitress stares at you. And not only do lots of superheroes eat there, it is where the Hooded Hood goes for coffee. It is the most stupid place to rob in the entire Parodyverse.Lara might convince VV to meet there and get her to try Violet's special cinnamon spice coffee while she talks about what it's like working with all of those minions and henchmen. Quote: Quote: Quote: He would request her not to utter indiscreet trivialities in an attempt to buoy her chosen projected persona in his presence; it is unworthy of her.Quote: Quote: That would only prompt her to say, "Yep. Definitely compensating." She likes to irritate him, it's funny.Quote: It's all funny until someone loses a brain-body interface.He might not do that if he knows that even though she can't talk, she'll be thinking to herself that means that she was right. Also, I believe he finds it more fun listening to what kind of creative insults she can come up with. | ||
L! Location: Seattle, Washington Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,038 |
Subject: If you confused then what hope do we all have :) [Re: HH] Posted Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 06:07:00 pm EST (Viewed 940 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: In possibly related ideas: I've always thought that at the very end of the Parodyverse there would only be 2 people around to see the how it all ended. Those two people would be Chad & Ronnie. Not sure what they'd be doing at the end or why they survived. Just that I've always liked the idea of Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around. Little Cat, their hamster, might also be there. He's not a "person" so that works with Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around.Quote: I see them on those fold-upbeach chairs, possibly with a flask of coffee and some sandwiches.I don't really see Chad or Ronnie to be big coffee drinkers. I could see them having sandwiches at the end of the universe. | ||
Al B. Harper Member Since: Mon Jan 04, 2016 Posts: 485 |
Subject: Re: It's good that you admit liability. [Re: HH] Posted Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 07:41:29 pm EST (Viewed 1006 times) | |
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Quote: My problem is the Hooded Hood. I have a list of ways he could do very minor retcons that would kill each member of the Lair Legion if they ever fought again. It's hard to overcome that, especially given that he doesn't even need to be anywhere near the heroes to trigger them. And don't you think the LL themselves have contingencies and protocols in place against these possibilities? Quote: So I need to work out a way for the Hood not to wipe out all the heroes in the first half minute after midnight.Or, you need to work out the LL's contingencies against the Hood's plans. Hatman has it all sorted. I'm sure it involves Mumph, Dancer, Xander/Vinnie, a dash of Happy Place with a sprinkling of Impossibilium. | ||
Al B. Harper Member Since: Mon Jan 04, 2016 Posts: 485 |
Subject: The brothers are going to have to wait. [Re: HH] Posted Tue Jan 17, 2017 at 07:49:28 pm EST (Viewed 1010 times) | |
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Quote: I knew I'd contrived to get Bry into being the "last inheritor" of their joint power, and I'd de-powered Exile to do it. I'm surprised that I repeated the same trick with Bambi.I wonder what she has been doing all this time? Do you think she married an accountant named Stanley, had a couple more kids, and is living it up in suburbia as a soccer mum, putting all the past behind her? Quote: The nearest I've ever got to Conan, though, is my unsubmitted novel THE FALL OF BABEL, a whodunnit set in the actual Biblical tower just before it topples. Drawing on Hebrew myth, the king there - and our investigator - is Nimrod the Hunter, a mighty warrior of great appetites and mighty thews. It's Conan meets Conan Doyle! His assistant for the investigation is a sacrificial virgin. Together they fight crime.Quote: The only reason I haven't put that book out is that I really like it and I'm holding off for a good offer from a publisher who might actually promote it. Coincidentally I may have one, and I have to get the thing sent off by the 23rd of this month.Sounds interesting. All the best with it, and well done if so. | ||
HH likes a well-organised blame system |
Subject: It's nice that we have default scapegoats on the board too, of course. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Wed Jan 18, 2017 at 11:32:40 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: My problem is the Hooded Hood. I have a list of ways he could do very minor retcons that would kill each member of the Lair Legion if they ever fought again. It's hard to overcome that, especially given that he doesn't even need to be anywhere near the heroes to trigger them. Quote: And don't you think the LL themselves have contingencies and protocols in place against these possibilities? Yes. And then it becomes a counter-counter-counter-etc. plot. The problem comes when, as he always planned this moment, the Hood is declaring open season on the LL by hundreds of other forces he has prepared for the moment. That can be a bit distracting. I originally planned the Hood to be powerful enough to threaten the whole team, but not impossible to beat. He's really only gone up against, and lost to, the LL in combat twice, and in each case he was taken down by somebody he'd let close to him (Lisa and Troia). So he's probably steeled himself for round three not to allow sentiment to weaken him. But on the other hand, the good guys have had some prep time and it wouldn't be a good story of they hadn't got a chance of fighting back. My problem is what that good story should be, to avoid it all just being techno-mumbling and magic-endings and keep it engaging as a narrative. Just clashing heroes together based on power stats etc. by 'alignment' is the Dreaming Celestian's plot. It wouldn't be a very interesting fight. Quote: Quote: So I need to work out a way for the Hood not to wipe out all the heroes in the first half minute after midnight.Quote: Or, you need to work out the LL's contingencies against the Hood's plans. It's not as if I haven't set up both. One reason to shy from it is the vast number of footnote links I'd have to edit in to show what was set in place where. Quote: Hatman has it all sorted. I'm sure it involves Mumph, Dancer, Xander/Vinnie, a dash of Happy Place with a sprinkling of Impossibilium. Noted. | ||
HH is very behind on wriitng duties |
Subject: Right now just finding an hour to write something seems hopeless [Re: L!] Posted Wed Jan 18, 2017 at 11:34:10 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: In possibly related ideas: I've always thought that at the very end of the Parodyverse there would only be 2 people around to see the how it all ended. Those two people would be Chad & Ronnie. Not sure what they'd be doing at the end or why they survived. Just that I've always liked the idea of Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around. Little Cat, their hamster, might also be there. He's not a "person" so that works with Chad & Ronnie being the last two people around.Quote: Quote: I see them on those fold-upbeach chairs, possibly with a flask of coffee and some sandwiches.Quote: I don't really see Chad or Ronnie to be big coffee drinkers. I could see them having sandwiches at the end of the universe.Perhaps it's a flask of chicken soup? |
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