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Subject: Untold Tales of the Lair Legion #353: After the Bookkeeping Posted Wed Jan 20, 2016 at 05:53:12 am EST (Viewed 14 times) | |
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Ever after? [Re: Another double-length follow-on from... the Hooded Hood. This could be a sickness.] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2016 at 01:17:13 pm EST (Viewed 917 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 9.0.3 on MacOS X (0 points) The only way the press meeting could have gone worse would have been if Yuki would have been there and smashed one of the cameras as well. Vinnie is afraid he's become a bad person? Unfortunately he was talking to the one person who would tell him to get to the back of the line. Liu Xi has already dealt with worries of becoming a bad person twice in her life. So she's the one to ask, point blank, if he is one. He doesn't need Magweed for that. I guess in Yuki's scene it was too late for a lecture about "mostly dead" because they've been gone too long. Isn't the Hooded Hood missing enough force to drive this Insanity Bullet toward the Wonderwall? On that note, you were wondering how you could ever use Faite: With all this interest in breaking the Wonderwall, maybe it could become her job to either restore it, or relocate it so any remaining plans to break it would become useless. The one thing that would definitely motivate her to decisive action would be the potential destruction of the universe, and as I said in another post, she'd take the most non-confrontational but sure action she could. | ||
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Subject: After excessive bookkeeping, I tend to prefer a nice nap. Actually, that usually goes for during the bookkeeping. [Re: Another double-length follow-on from... the Hooded Hood. This could be a sickness.] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2016 at 02:08:55 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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In this case, however, I agree with Vizh... I don't know what we should be doing, but we damn well should be doing it! I assume that you mean "This could be a sickness" in your posting comment, as this story is anything but a "suckness". Some good emotional fall-out in this one, especially the GE meltdown in front of the press. The human moments are often my favorite parts of the story, and this chapter was brimming with them. Beth's quiet talk with Mumphrey was another top notch bit. I hadn't really considered the idea of Griffin projecting himself across such distances, but I suppose it does fit. We know that he went to spy on things for Magweed when he was believed to just be imaginary, and it was always left rather vague how he did so. In any event, I enjoy the adventures and scheming of the young members of the cast, and Sam, Maggie and Griffin are a fun little group. I had actually been working out a school-based story for the twins, complete with mean girls and the like, but then I realized that what I had and what I might have done were already close enough to what was done with certain cartoon characters, so I'd need some new ideas. I like seeing Hallie and Marie working together to figure out what's wrong with their turf. They're both linked to the mansion in very personal ways, and it's fun to see that explored. And finally, we get to have words with a certain Hooded Hood. Should be quite interesting... I'm looking forward to it! | ||
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Subject: Another UT, another note about Ham-Boy... [Re: Another double-length follow-on from... the Hooded Hood. This could be a sickness.] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2016 at 06:13:27 pm EST (Viewed 866 times) | |
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You miss attribute a job to Ham-Boy: In story you say that Ham-Boy has a "subsistence-level work at the Gulp and Go". 1 Problem: Ham-Boy has never worked at the Gulp and Go. For one, It's the Gulp 'n Go. I do have a character who does work as a clerk at that chain of convenience stores. That's Ben Hermes, The Semi-Transparent Lad. Fred Harris does have a job, which you correctly list in the footnotes. Fred is an In-Store DJ for the Parrodipolis location of Wally World. Also, that footnote about Ham-Boy doesn't exactly give correct info, partly due to fact that I have altered some info involved in it. Fred's Dad name is not Roger, not Allan (a fact I had forgotten about but it's Roger now). Janis is way more then just "aware" of Fred's activities as Ham-Boy. Given that she runs the Ham-Boy museum in Fred's home town. Grandpa Al also works at the Museum. | ||
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Subject: I'm clearly out of practice. [Re: L!] Posted Thu Jan 21, 2016 at 01:36:42 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: You miss attribute a job to Ham-Boy: In story you say that Ham-Boy has a "subsistence-level work at the Gulp and Go". Sorry about that. I'll edit the text with an amendment when I get the chance. Quote: Also, that footnote about Ham-Boy doesn't exactly give correct info, partly due to fact that I have altered some info involved in it. Fred's Dad name is not Roger, not Allan (a fact I had forgotten about but it's Roger now). Janis is way more then just "aware" of Fred's activities as Ham-Boy. Given that she runs the Ham-Boy museum in Fred's home town. Grandpa Al also works at the Museum.If you want to post or e-mail an updated guide I'll be happy to include that too. | ||
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Subject: Maybe [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Thu Jan 21, 2016 at 01:52:10 am EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: The only way the press meeting could have gone worse would have been if Yuki would have been there and smashed one of the cameras as well. The reasons I paired G-Eyed with CSFB! instead here are: 1. Dream has a long history of press snafus, so here it was fun for him to be "the sensible one" - until the end; 2. These days he is probably G=Eyed's longest-serving buddy, except for Hatman who's more of a boss. I suspect that Yuki's P.I. instincts keep her off-camera as much as possible. Besides, I needed her to call out the Shoggoth and get a bit deeper with him than we often go. Quote: Vinnie is afraid he's become a bad person? Unfortunately he was talking to the one person who would tell him to get to the back of the line. Liu Xi has already dealt with worries of becoming a bad person twice in her life. So she's the one to ask, point blank, if he is one. He doesn't need Magweed for that.It's not just the worry of him maybe being a bad person, it's that an innocent child whom he likes and who has previously liked him (they've even had an adventure together) might spot it and change her mind about him. Quote: I guess in Yuki's scene it was too late for a lecture about "mostly dead" because they've been gone too long.The Shoggoth is a great cgaracter to use for laughs, but it works best like that because he can have a profound and serious side. Of the current team, Yuki is probably the most likely to ask out-of-the-box questions of him, especially if she's upset. Of course, in a comic-book world there are all kinds of ways people get resurrected, especially villains, but the Shoggoth's power to make any change of that kind is strictly limited to Lovfecraftian means - a horror story ready to happen. A character with the ability to bring everyone who dies easily back to life would destroy any tension from narrative consequences. Quote: Isn't the Hooded Hood missing enough force to drive this Insanity Bullet toward the Wonderwall?Good catch. His plans are not complete. Quote: On that note, you were wondering how you could ever use Faite: With all this interest in breaking the Wonderwall, maybe it could become her job to either restore it, or relocate it so any remaining plans to break it would become useless. The one thing that would definitely motivate her to decisive action would be the potential destruction of the universe, and as I said in another post, she'd take the most non-confrontational but sure action she could.A relocated Wonderwall would be a useless Wonderwall, just like moving a security fence to stop it being vandalised. But really, since the item forms the barrier between the Parodyverse and the Big Elsewhere it is pretty much immune to everything (unless the narrative needs it to be otherwise). The focus is probably off that particlar maguffin for a bit, Next up is whispering file rooms and the world of trouble that prefigures. | ||
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Subject: Isn't 'excessive bookkeeping' a tautology? [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Jan 21, 2016 at 02:12:03 am EST | |
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Quote: In this case, however, I agree with Vizh... I don't know what we should be doing, but we damn well should be doing it!And next issue we shall, with Vizh vs the Hooded Hood. Quote: I assume that you mean "This could be a sickness" in your posting comment, as this story is anything but a "suckness". Yes, I meant sickness, but it could have been a Freudian slip. Quote: Some good emotional fall-out in this one, especially the GE meltdown in front of the press. The human moments are often my favorite parts of the story, and this chapter was brimming with them. Beth's quiet talk with Mumphrey was another top notch bit.Apart from the EEE scenes and the pay-off of the Drury meet, nothing in this chapter was in the original version of the story (the one-part epilogue that in turn spawned from a single-scene in the Tomb). It was only when I went back to proof that material that it became clear there was a lot of stuff that needed unpacking and mapping. I still take the PV characters way too seriously and I care about their stories and ncontinuity making sense (sickness or suckness, like I said). I'm not happy swanning in, throwing things into chaos, and then leaving character reactions unresolved and situations unclear and unusable. Plus, I had quite a lot of fun doing the little scenes. I hope they reminded people of why they follow these characters. Quote: I hadn't really considered the idea of Griffin projecting himself across such distances, but I suppose it does fit. We know that he went to spy on things for Magweed when he was believed to just be imaginary, and it was always left rather vague how he did so. I hope I haven't pushed his abilities in a direction you didn't want to go. My take on this is that he was able to go that far because he knew both the person and the location (at least from description). He'd be unable to do the same to find, say, a hidden villain in his lair. He couldn't manifest corporally (he can't effectively teleport). I suppose I was thinking of Griff relating to Sam here as being similar to the way he used to go to Maggie. Quote: In any event, I enjoy the adventures and scheming of the young members of the cast, and Sam, Maggie and Griffin are a fun little group. I had actually been working out a school-based story for the twins, complete with mean girls and the like, but then I realized that what I had and what I might have done were already close enough to what was done with certain cartoon characters, so I'd need some new ideas.Mags and Griff's schooldays would be excellent, especially when Kerry turns up at home time to pick them up. By the way, my view is that mice and bluebirds only sing around Magweed when Yo expects it. Quote: I like seeing Hallie and Marie working together to figure out what's wrong with their turf. They're both linked to the mansion in very personal ways, and it's fun to see that explored.That was actually the last scene to get dropped in. The reason will become evident next time. Could you remind me of the state of play of Vizh and Hallie's current romantic relationship? Quote: And finally, we get to have words with a certain Hooded Hood. Should be quite interesting... I'm looking forward to it!I started revising what is now the final part of a three-chapter consequences story, and was surprised how dark parts were getting. After all, we can't really turn the screw properly when we still don't know how Laurie/Amnesia died, can we? But I think those flashback scenes will get published in a different colour, with content caution, so people can avoid them if they want and still get a perfectly coherent story with dramatic and funny bits. | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Re: Maybe [Re: HH] Posted Thu Jan 21, 2016 at 09:05:35 am EST (Viewed 847 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 9.0.3 on MacOS X (0.03 points) Quote: I suspect that Yuki's P.I. instincts keep her off-camera as much as possible. Besides, I needed her to call out the Shoggoth and get a bit deeper with him than we often go.She does keep off-camera as much as possible, because she often ends up punching reporters for being obnoxious after she tells them to go away. The Shoggoth scene was really "her", though, because she asked a question nobody asked before. And she probably wondered to herself why no one asked before. Quote: It's not just the worry of him maybe being a bad person, it's that an innocent child whom he likes and who has previously liked him (they've even had an adventure together) might spot it and change her mind about him.In that case, Liu Xi could have mentioned that Magweed isn't afraid of her - even though since she killed that first guy when she discovered her powers, she hasn't been sure since if she would be considered evil. Additionally, Magweed isn't afraid of the Shoggoth. Or Lara, who's killed more than one person. Or Faite, who's incredibly secretive and her history and motives are unknown. Quote: The Shoggoth is a great cgaracter to use for laughs, but it works best like that because he can have a profound and serious side. Of the current team, Yuki is probably the most likely to ask out-of-the-box questions of him, especially if she's upset.Like I said above, she probably wondered why no one ever asked that before. She tends to think a lot on those terms. Quote: Of course, in a comic-book world there are all kinds of ways people get resurrected, especially villains, but the Shoggoth's power to make any change of that kind is strictly limited to Lovfecraftian means - a horror story ready to happen. A character with the ability to bring everyone who dies easily back to life would destroy any tension from narrative consequences.Probably if the Shoggoth resurrects someone, it won't just break that person. It would break the entire universe in subtle ways that would be discovered as a horror later on. That's similar to the reason Faite will often refuse to bring someone back. It does some serious damage. Quote: Good catch. His plans are not complete.Noted? Quote: A relocated Wonderwall would be a useless Wonderwall, just like moving a security fence to stop it being vandalised. But really, since the item forms the barrier between the Parodyverse and the Big Elsewhere it is pretty much immune to everything (unless the narrative needs it to be otherwise). The focus is probably off that particlar maguffin for a bit, Next up is whispering file rooms and the world of trouble that prefigures.I was thinking more outside the box than that. There's also "relocating" the Wonderwall by changing the orientation between it and the universe. Only a few degrees of change would make it hard to find again. | ||
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Subject: I suppose that a librarian might argue that. [Re: HH] Posted Thu Jan 21, 2016 at 01:30:52 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: And next issue we shall, with Vizh vs the Hooded Hood.That always ends well. Ah well... At least Vizh had a good run. Quote: Yes, I meant sickness, but it could have been a Freudian slip.Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar though. Especially when the two keys are right next to each other on the keyboard. I'm used to auto-correct playing havoc with much of what I type these days. My tablet has taken to stubbornly replacing perfectly good words on the assumption that I really want to type something else. Quote: I still take the PV characters way too seriously and I care about their stories and ncontinuity making sense (sickness or suckness, like I said). I'm not happy swanning in, throwing things into chaos, and then leaving character reactions unresolved and situations unclear and unusable. Plus, I had quite a lot of fun doing the little scenes. I hope they reminded people of why they follow these characters.That's the stuff I come here for, honestly. Although I recognize that without some plot to drive the whole thing forward, there's far less for the characters to sit around and discuss. Regardless, I feel the real benefit of works like we see in the PV is that we can take the time to expand on these in-betweeen moments and really let the characters deal with things, rather than wrap it all up and save the fallout for the huge sequel event. Quote: Mags and Griff's schooldays would be excellent, especially when Kerry turns up at home time to pick them up.I stumbled across that St. Patrick's Day story from a few years ago, featuring the Juniors and others in a college bar that I started and a few others contributed to... It was a fun dynamic there too. But yes, I know at one point I had planned for Maggie and Griff to attend a school adjacent to that other town the Lighthouse hangs out in (the name escapes me right now), and their presence would draw out some more magically inclined trouble while dealing with the usual High School hassles and allow Maggie to show the social interactions that would see her come into her own as a leader fit to become a Fairy Queene someday. In the years since, I've pretty much seen that story told, so the impulse to do it myself is quite lessened. I may have to write some story about them though... or at the very least, finish that Great North Star thing. I found my notes on it. Don't quite understand them all any longer though. Quote: By the way, my view is that mice and bluebirds only sing around Magweed when Yo expects it.It says something about Vizh's life that neither he nor I even question that kind of thing any longer. Quote: Could you remind me of the state of play of Vizh and Hallie's current romantic relationship?I'm sure I could use a reminder myself. As of the last I can recall, they are officially dating and I'm assuming exclusive. It's a rather chaste relationship, as Hallie can't really be touched... Her force-fields have a numbing affect with prolonged contact and probably aren't particularly healthy, so not a lot of cuddling time is had. I don't think they get a lot of privacy anyway. Quote: I started revising what is now the final part of a three-chapter consequences story, and was surprised how dark parts were getting. After all, we can't really turn the screw properly when we still don't know how Laurie/Amnesia died, can we? But I think those flashback scenes will get published in a different colour, with content caution, so people can avoid them if they want and still get a perfectly coherent story with dramatic and funny bits.It should be an interesting experience... You have to make me feel yet worse for poor Lisette, huh? Of course, if being mean to her somehow did summon Dancer back, I suppose I wouldn't complain. | ||
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Subject: Comes a lie down on a sofa with a cold drink? [Re: Another double-length follow-on from... the Hooded Hood. This could be a sickness.] Posted Thu Jan 21, 2016 at 05:11:29 pm EST (Viewed 809 times) | |
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Quote: Meanwhile, the Epilogue That Would Not Die rampages into its second issue…We need to have a talk about the meaning of epilogue. There is no conclusion here. It was great to see G'eyed flip out after everything, probably a long time coming, and get some assist from his pal CSFB! It's a shame neither poster is active and able to inject some of their viewpoints into this. Such is the nature of the board these days. I'd forgotten it was Wexford who first got to Beth. Funny that we were talking/chatting/typing (what is the correct form for conversing on the iinterweb?) about him earlier. It all happened so long ago. Time for closure for her surely. I would suggest that Mumph having memories of that marriage is not good for his long term health. It's time for us to find him a new wife. Or at least a distraction. Drury's offer to Sally was a surprise, but I suppose not surprising. As was his retconned visage. Nice touch. JJJ's notes on her are very insightful. I really want to see Miss Framlicker take the Baroness down now. With Lisa's cat in her corner she cannot lose. One thing about the graphic - the unknown child Kinki made from Al's genetic material is unknown to all but her and the child. It wouldn't appear on the schematic in the story - of if it did it would raise some serious questions. Of course, I know that this schematic was made for our own benefit years ago. Just mentioning this here so no one is confused. Vinnie and Liu Xi's chat was also insightful. I think she was right on to call him on his behaviour - though I do like potentially-to-be-bad Vinnie. I hope there are further ramifications for him. Yuki's chat with the Shoggoth showed a side to the Shoggoth we don't see much. A thoughtful, almost contemplative Shoggoth, rather than a 'bubbles up and throws out a witty one liner probably with an anime reference while devouring something' Shoggoth. I do wonder now though - is Yuki potentially immortal herself? Speaking of robosapiens, it was nice to see reference via Tandi's chat to that. I think there is another simmering sub-plot left hanging for all these years surrounding the robosapiens rights movement, isn't there? Mags and Griff are always enjoyable appearances. And there were some funny one liners in the lighthouse scene. The toaster - Jarvis' bust. You know, for a split second there I'd thought Jarvis and spiffy were one and the same, with both posters being so long absent from the board. The revelation that the Hood has been building all this up through his manipulations over time in order to obtain the Insanity Stones is putting him firmly back in his place as a grade A bastard. I hope Beth is going to Herringcap to stick him in the belly with a sharp implement, though I suspect she is going to be all noble and allow Laurie to life (somehow). At the very least I hope the stones give the Hood constipation! I look forward to the conclusion! | ||
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Subject: Re: Maybe [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 12:11:09 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: I suspect that Yuki's P.I. instincts keep her off-camera as much as possible. Besides, I needed her to call out the Shoggoth and get a bit deeper with him than we often go.Quote: She does keep off-camera as much as possible, because she often ends up punching reporters for being obnoxious after she tells them to go away.Given her design specs, isn't that assault with a deadly weapon? Quote: The Shoggoth scene was really "her", though, because she asked a question nobody asked before. And she probably wondered to herself why no one asked before.Just occasionally I like to use Yuki to push someone out of their comfort zone. Quote: Quote: It's not just the worry of [Vinnie] maybe being a bad person, it's that an innocent child whom he likes and who has previously liked him (they've even had an adventure together) might spot it and change her mind about him.Quote: In that case, Liu Xi could have mentioned that Magweed isn't afraid of her - even though since she killed that first guy when she discovered her powers, she hasn't been sure since if she would be considered evil.One wrinkle in this is that Maggie sees people's "hearts", their basic natures. That's not quite the same as seeing their sins, mistakes, shames, or even crimes. Nor, as a child, is she very well equipped to interpret what she senses. Quote: Additionally, Magweed isn't afraid of the Shoggoth. Or Lara, who's killed more than one person. Or Faite, who's incredibly secretive and her history and motives are unknown.I'm not sure Mags' gifts would work on the Shoggoth or Faite. Re Lara, Mags doesn't have a "murder sense" like Exu the Doomherald. A mother who had killed to defend her baby might seem bright and true. An accountant who cheated his clients and taxes might register as a horrid person. Nor could Mags tell why somebody might have a dark heart. Quote: Quote: Yuki is probably the most likely to ask out-of-the-box questions of [the Shoggoth], especially if she's upset.Quote: Like I said above, she probably wondered why no one ever asked that before. She tends to think a lot on those terms.One reason is probably that no-one really wanted to hear what he might answer. After all this time the Shoggoth is still alien and terrifying even to his team. Every time they think they know him he reveals some new disturbing facet. Quote: Probably if the Shoggoth resurrects someone, it won't just break that person. It would break the entire universe in subtle ways that would be discovered as a horror later on.Inevitably. He's speaking absolute truth to Yuki. Quote: That's similar to the reason Faite will often refuse to bring someone back. It does some serious damage.Presumably her power-set would only allow resurrection at the instant of death. Quote: Quote: Good catch. His plans are not complete.Quote: Noted?Noted next issue. Quote: I was thinking more outside the box than that. There's also "relocating" the Wonderwall by changing the orientation between it and the universe. Only a few degrees of change would make it hard to find again.It's hard to find now, but it could be harder. I doubt any obfuscation would deter the Hood for long; only put the reason for delay on his to-do list. | ||
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Subject: Comes payment due, which happens to be the working title of UT#354. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 12:41:58 am EST (Viewed 6 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Meanwhile, the Epilogue That Would Not Die rampages into its second issue…Quote: We need to have a talk about the meaning of epilogue. There is no conclusion here.It started as a single-scene epilogue, honestly. It was the inside-the-tomb bit that restored Beth. Then I needed a follow-on conversation/confrontation with the Hood. Then a bunch of other scenes occurred to me as logical consequences, some prompted by poster feedback. Then when I'd got the finished product as two issues, a last reread showed that there was a ton of character stuff missing, which required the addition of this latest chapter. The justification for three issues is that each part has something of its own tone. An issue with the heroes out and about or mooching round the mansion and lighthouse is different from one set inside the walls of Herringcarp. Quote: It was great to see G'eyed flip out after everything, probably a long time coming, and get some assist from his pal CSFB! It's a shame neither poster is active and able to inject some of their viewpoints into this. Such is the nature of the board these days.It would be great to hear from them. I do try to push the spotlight towards responding posters, so actually G-Eyed, CSFB! and Hatman might have got a lot more to do this time. Meanwhile, Yo and ManMan actually showed up! And no-one except Rhiannon remembered that last time we saw Manny he'd lost Knifey - except me. Quote: I'd forgotten it was Wexford who first got to Beth. Funny that we were talking/chatting/typing (what is the correct form for conversing on the iinterweb?) about him earlier. It all happened so long ago. Time for closure for her surely. It certainly shouldn't just be ignored. Quote: I would suggest that Mumph having memories of that marriage is not good for his long term health. It's time for us to find him a new wife. Or at least a distraction. As you saw, Sam is deploying Asil. Or, as future-Sam called her, "gran - Asil." Quote: Drury's offer to Sally was a surprise, but I suppose not surprising. As was his retconned visage. Nice touch. JJJ's notes on her are very insightful. I didn't want to cover whether Sally accepted. That's JJJ's call. However, of the current line-up she's the one who has the least status quo setup. Quote: I really want to see Miss Framlicker take the Baroness down now. With Lisa's cat in her corner she cannot lose.They do seem like natural adversaries. One thing about the graphic - the unknown child Kinki made from Al's genetic material is unknown to all but her and the child. It wouldn't appear on the schematic in the story - of if it did it would raise some serious questions. Of course, I know that this schematic was made for our own benefit years ago. Just mentioning this here so no one is confused. Good catch. Also, the diagram is slightly out of date since Liu Xi's potential impregnation by Lord Slithis has now been averted. Danny is still a possibility. Quote: Vinnie and Liu Xi's chat was also insightful. I think she was right on to call him on his behaviour - though I do like potentially-to-be-bad Vinnie. I hope there are further ramifications for him. In part that scene was me reflecting some of recent feedback conversation with jason, getting it "in story". And it's not really Vinnie turning bad so much as Vinnoie turning pragmatic. But that's the stuff character comflict arcs are made of. Also, in Jason's latest stories Liu Xi and Vinnie are no longer an item, so it felt appropriate to lay some groundwork. Quote: Yuki's chat with the Shoggoth showed a side to the Shoggoth we don't see much. A thoughtful, almost contemplative Shoggoth, rather than a 'bubbles up and throws out a witty one liner probably with an anime reference while devouring something' Shoggoth. I do wonder now though - is Yuki potentially immortal herself? It's nice to be able to use characters in different way sometimes, sso they don't become one-joke one-note cutouts. Even Dream got a different role this time. I'm not sure Yuki is immortal. Her brain is human and therefore subject to senesence over time. Quote: Speaking of robosapiens, it was nice to see reference via Tandi's chat to that. I think there is another simmering sub-plot left hanging for all these years surrounding the robosapiens rights movement, isn't there? That's certainly deserving of a proper arc, but whether it's solvable except over many generations, like racism and sexism, is another matter. Quote: Mags and Griff are always enjoyable appearances. And there were some funny one liners in the lighthouse scene. The toaster - Jarvis' bust. You know, for a split second there I'd thought Jarvis and spiffy were one and the same, with both posters being so long absent from the board. The mouse song is one that I repurposed from something I prepared for the Quest for Naari material back in the day. Quote: The revelation that the Hood has been building all this up through his manipulations over time in order to obtain the Insanity Stones is putting him firmly back in his place as a grade A bastard. I hope Beth is going to Herringcap to stick him in the belly with a sharp implement, though I suspect she is going to be all noble and allow Laurie to life (somehow). At the very least I hope the stones give the Hood constipation! This felt like the time for the big reveal that the Hood (and his writer) have been setting some things up for a loooong time. Quote: I look forward to the conclusion!Me too. Although the flashbacks are awfully Herringcarp Gothic. | ||
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Subject: Ah, he's dead. [Re: Visionary] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 01:00:52 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: And next issue we shall, with Vizh vs the Hooded Hood.Quote: That always ends well. Ah well... At least Vizh had a good run.Well, in my original c2005 plans, after the New Pantheon came a brief Juniors at College interlude issue and then The Da Visionary Code, which famoulsy features the passing of Visionatus Improbablus. So there's that. Quote: Quote: Yes, I meant sickness, but it could have been a Freudian slip.Quote: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar though. Especially when the two keys are right next to each other on the keyboard. I'm used to auto-correct playing havoc with much of what I type these days. My tablet has taken to stubbornly replacing perfectly good words on the assumption that I really want to type something else. I do find PV writing addective, and not conducive to me writing other kinds of stories at the same time. Quote: Quote: I still take the PV characters way too seriously.Quote: That's the stuff I come here for, honestly. Although I recognize that without some plot to drive the whole thing forward, there's far less for the characters to sit around and discuss. Regardless, I feel the real benefit of works like we see in the PV is that we can take the time to expand on these in-betweeen moments and really let the characters deal with things, rather than wrap it all up and save the fallout for the huge sequel event.One of my concerns writing "three brief chapters" of Untold Tales was that it would squeeze out the character bits to cover the plot. I should have had more realistic expectations. Quote: Quote: Mags and Griff's schooldays would be excellent, especially when Kerry turns up at home time to pick them up.Quote: I stumbled across that St. Patrick's Day story from a few years ago, featuring the Juniors and others in a college bar that I started and a few others contributed to... It was a fun dynamic there too. Repost that. repost all the bits. Most urgently, though, please repost a tie-in to the Quest for Naari called "Sir Mix-a-Lot". I don't have a copy of it in my archive (presumably because it appeared in a reply thread) and the original link to the PVB back pages is now dead. An important part of the story is therefore inaccessible. Quote: But yes, I know at one point I had planned for Maggie and Griff to attend a school adjacent to that other town the Lighthouse hangs out in (the name escapes me right now), and their presence would draw out some more magically inclined trouble while dealing with the usual High School hassles and allow Maggie to show the social interactions that would see her come into her own as a leader fit to become a Fairy Queene someday. In the years since, I've pretty much seen that story told, so the impulse to do it myself is quite lessened.Where was it told? Quote: I may have to write some story about them though... or at the very least, finish that Great North Star thing. I found my notes on it. Don't quite understand them all any longer though.Any new material would be good. Material that concludes previous stories would be great. The North Star narrative, which was defining Mags and Griff in current status quo, would be excellent. Quote: Quote: By the way, my view is that mice and bluebirds only sing around Magweed when Yo expects it.Quote: It says something about Vizh's life that neither he nor I even question that kind of thing any longer.You are truly blessed. Quote: Quote: Could you remind me of the state of play of Vizh and Hallie's current romantic relationship?Quote: I'm sure I could use a reminder myself. As of the last I can recall, they are officially dating and I'm assuming exclusive. It's a rather chaste relationship, as Hallie can't really be touched... Her force-fields have a numbing affect with prolonged contact and probably aren't particularly healthy, so not a lot of cuddling time is had. I don't think they get a lot of privacy anyway.So there's another story, right there, including advice and helpful intervention form a wider cast. I look forward to "The Quest for Hallie's Pants", coming soon. Best before the Da Visionary Code, eh? Quote: Quote: I started revising what is now the final part of a three-chapter consequences story, and was surprised how dark parts were getting. Quote: It should be an interesting experience... You have to make me feel yet worse for poor Lisette, huh? Of course, if being mean to her somehow did summon Dancer back, I suppose I wouldn't complain. There are always worse things to do to Lisette. And any lurkers that might wish to de-lurk are welcome. Very few people have ever objected to more yellow font on the board. | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Re: Maybe [Re: HH] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 08:16:18 am EST (Viewed 833 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 9.0.3 on MacOS X (0 points) Quote: Given her design specs, isn't that assault with a deadly weapon?No one's tried that...yet. Quote: One wrinkle in this is that Maggie sees people's "hearts", their basic natures. That's not quite the same as seeing their sins, mistakes, shames, or even crimes. Nor, as a child, is she very well equipped to interpret what she senses.That's exactly my point, though. Or Liu Xi's point. That Vinnie can't call himself evil because of one thing he's done. Quote: Re Lara, Mags doesn't have a "murder sense" like Exu the Doomherald. A mother who had killed to defend her baby might seem bright and true. An accountant who cheated his clients and taxes might register as a horrid person. Nor could Mags tell why somebody might have a dark heart. Same point there, that Lara has killed before but it hasn't made her "evil". Though Lara has a dark side to her personality, and if that doesn't set off Mags' evil detector, Vinnie doesn't have a chance of it. Quote: One reason is probably that no-one really wanted to hear what he might answer. After all this time the Shoggoth is still alien and terrifying even to his team. Every time they think they know him he reveals some new disturbing facet.Good thing disturbing facets don't bother Yuki. She looks forward to them. Quote: Quote: That's similar to the reason Faite will often refuse to bring someone back. It does some serious damage.Quote: Presumably her power-set would only allow resurrection at the instant of death.Ideally, she wouldn't tamper with that except in the case of dead-beyond-medical-science-but-not-really-dead, but if she gets the timing right she might be able to pull someone from the jaws of death. Her own version, in her own words, is that it's too late once a soul sees what is beyond. Quote: Noted next issue.Quote: It's hard to find now, but it could be harder. I doubt any obfuscation would deter the Hood for long; only put the reason for delay on his to-do list.Faite would probably do something even more subtle than that, like make sure the merged stones aren't where the Hood left them. | ||
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Subject: Re: Maybe [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 08:44:24 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Given her design specs, isn't that assault with a deadly weapon?Quote: No one's tried that...yet.Proceed. Quote: Same point there, that Lara has killed before but it hasn't made her "evil". Though Lara has a dark side to her personality, and if that doesn't set off Mags' evil detector, Vinnie doesn't have a chance of it.The issue isn't really whether Mags would sense him as evil but whether Vinnie would define himself as evil. He's worried about what Mags would find because he's made a judgement about himself. Quote: Good thing disturbing facets don't bother Yuki. She looks forward to them.I still think Yuki has a subconscious death wish pushing her to ever greater thrills and danger. After surviving her accident she treats every day like bonus time and spends it hard. Quote: Her [Faite's] own version, in her own words, is that it's too late once a soul sees what is beyond.Well put. Quote: Faite would probably do something even more subtle than that, like make sure the merged stones aren't where the Hood left them.You realise, of course, that this means war? | ||
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Subject: They say that about print in general. [Re: HH] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 11:47:24 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Well, in my original c2005 plans, after the New Pantheon came a brief Juniors at College interlude issue and then The Da Visionary Code, which famoulsy features the passing of Visionatus Improbablus. So there's that.At least he gets a snazzy tomb out of the deal! Quote: Repost that. repost all the bits.Most urgently, though, please repost a tie-in to the Quest for Naari called "Sir Mix-a-Lot". I don't have a copy of it in my archive (presumably because it appeared in a reply thread) and the original link to the PVB back pages is now dead. An important part of the story is therefore inaccessible. I'll see what I can do on both counts. I'm pretty sure I read the St. Patty's thing on your website, and it's certainly the only place where I'd find the other contributions to it. I most likely have that Hallie-as-a-centaur story somewhere... I'll try and dig it out. I've changed computers a couple of times in recent years (and am already looking at a new one now), and not everything is nice and organized any longer. Quote: Quote:But yes, I know at one point I had planned for Maggie and Griff to attend a school adjacent to that other town the Lighthouse hangs out in (the name escapes me right now), and their presence would draw out some more magically inclined trouble while dealing with the usual High School hassles and allow Maggie to show the social interactions that would see her come into her own as a leader fit to become a Fairy Queene someday. In the years since, I've pretty much seen that story told, so the impulse to do it myself is quite lessened. Where was it told? I know that the original idea was mostly inspired by the likes of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", only instead of the Hellmouth there would be some inherent creepiness in the town and school itself and then active interference by faeries sent by Camellia. (Faeries would do well in a shallow High School environment.) In the years since, the more specific elements of the plotline were used by Hasbro in setting up their human spin-off of Pony called "Equestria Girls". They sent their formerly-antisocial-librarian-unicorn-just-turned-princess to an alternate reality where everyone was an oddly-colored human in high school. So it had the not-totally-human princess from a magical land not fitting into the school, yet eventually uniting the fractured student body through friendship and good deeds (and defeating of monsters drawn by the influx of magic she represented), thus reassuring her that maybe she's cut out to be a leader after all. Now, I'm not sure that it told that story particularly well, what with having to devote a fair amount of limited runtime to the whole "used to be a unicorn from an alternate world" thing. (Sadly, she didn't have a "Last Unicorn" style breakdown about being able to feel her now-mortal body slowly dying around her... Sure, that's maybe a bit dark for High School hijinks, but still a missed opportunity, I'd say.) Regardless, they hit many of the same broad strokes... even had a brother-figure to help look out for her. If I had already started down that path it wouldn't be enough to push me away from it, but as it stands it's just enough to sap my need to tell my version. Quote: Any new material would be good. Material that concludes previous stories would be great. The North Star narrative, which was defining Mags and Griff in current status quo, would be excellent. I found one extra chapter of the North Star story beyond what you had, which I feel like I must have posted at some point, as it was written up to a suitably dramatic break (as Dancer enters my part of the story). From there it was just a matter of resolving it all. I think the exposition required was daunting, and so I kept putting it off in the hopes that some way of making it entertaining would come to me. Regardless, I'm not entirely sure how I meant to resolve it... I have some cryptic notes which makes me think I had some clever ending, but if so it has fully escaped me. If I actually get the free time to tackle anything, I'll give the whole thing another read-through and see if I can't recapture the mindset for it. I'm not sure what their current status quo should really be though, or what the timeline is. The last thing I wrote was a future story about Griff as an adult SPUD agent, I think. Quote: Quote:I'm sure I could use a reminder myself. As of the last I can recall, they are officially dating and I'm assuming exclusive. It's a rather chaste relationship, as Hallie can't really be touched... Her force-fields have a numbing affect with prolonged contact and probably aren't particularly healthy, so not a lot of cuddling time is had. I don't think they get a lot of privacy anyway. So there's another story, right there, including advice and helpful intervention form a wider cast. I look forward to "The Quest for Hallie's Pants", coming soon. Best before the Da Visionary Code, eh? I'm not entirely sure that it's something to resolve, long term... but yes, there is certainly the possibility for some story material there. We'll see where things lead. Quote: There are always worse things to do to Lisette.And any lurkers that might wish to de-lurk are welcome. Very few people have ever objected to more yellow font on the board. I keep hoping that, like Beetlejuice, if you say her name enough times, she'll appear... | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Re: Maybe [Re: HH] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 12:46:04 pm EST (Viewed 839 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 9.0.3 on MacOS X (0 points) Quote: Quote: Same point there, that Lara has killed before but it hasn't made her "evil". Though Lara has a dark side to her personality, and if that doesn't set off Mags' evil detector, Vinnie doesn't have a chance of it.Quote: The issue isn't really whether Mags would sense him as evil but whether Vinnie would define himself as evil. He's worried about what Mags would find because he's made a judgement about himself.I guess someone should tell him it doesn't work that way. Quote: Quote: Good thing disturbing facets don't bother Yuki. She looks forward to them.Quote: I still think Yuki has a subconscious death wish pushing her to ever greater thrills and danger. After surviving her accident she treats every day like bonus time and spends it hard.Of course she does. Not that she wants to die, but she's not going to waste her life worrying about it. She figures if she dies doing something crazy, at least it was one hell of a ride. Quote: Quote: Her [Faite's] own version, in her own words, is that it's too late once a soul sees what is beyond.Quote: Well put.It sounds almost as if she tried it before and failed. Quote: Quote: Faite would probably do something even more subtle than that, like make sure the merged stones aren't where the Hood left them.Quote: You realise, of course, that this means war?Truthfully, Faite isn't worried about anything the Hood might try to do to her. She theorized a long time ago that his retcons and plans might be why she exists in the first place. It *would* explain why she is so hard to get rid of; Logically, he would create a failsafe that even *he* can't get rid of in case a rival manages to kill or vanish him somehow. Because if he can get rid of her, so can someone else. If that's true, though, he created a monster, because she also has unpredictable motives, a strong will of her own, and a desire to protect the PV even if it's from the Hood. At the same time, though, Faite is sensitive to the fact that if she irritates the Hood too much, he might take it out on someone else. She did make the "mistake" of forming friendships with mortals, after all. So she picks her battles. Trying to punch a hole in the Wonderwall is definitely one of the battles she'd pick. She would probably give the Lair Legion priority in beating the Hood, though, because once again...picking battles. If they fail, though, she would do her best to damage the Hood's plans. Hiding the bullet he's been building is a subtle but powerful way. Faite likes to stick with subtle because she believes direct confrontation - like the Lair Legion does - sparks a never-ending pissing contest between her and everyone with the slightest amount of power. She doesn't want any part of it. | ||
J. Jonah Jerkson , who unfortunately had another choleric episode in RL and is recovering Member Since: Fri Nov 19, 2004 Posts: 140 |
Subject: Re: Comes payment due, which happens to be the working title of UT#354. [Re: HH] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 01:15:05 pm EST (Viewed 864 times) | |
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All suggestions are fine, although I'd prefer Sally's time with SPUD to be limited. Some day I have to write her confrontation with Elizabeth. More hopefully over the weekend; I'm stranded at an airport because of the huge U.S. East Coast snowstorm and I may finally have time to finish either the Samantha F. tie-in or some JJJ editorials. Best to all,and thanks to Ian's unstoppable desire to wrap things up, which is gifting us with so much extra content. J. JONAH JERKSON
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Subject: Print book sales actually rose by 3% last year. [Re: Visionary] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 03:32:26 pm EST | |
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Quote: Quote: Well, in my original c2005 plans, after the New Pantheon came a brief Juniors at College interlude issue and then The Da Visionary Code, which famoulsy features the passing of Visionatus Improbablus. So there's that.Quote: At least he gets a snazzy tomb out of the deal!It's a bit of a fixer-upper. Quote: Most urgently, though, please repost a tie-in to the Quest for Naari called "Sir Mix-a-Lot". Quote: I'll see what I can do on both counts. I'm pretty sure I read the St. Patty's thing on your website, and it's certainly the only place where I'd find the other contributions to it.Actually, I'm mistaken. I do have a copy of "Sir Mix-a-lot". It's your previous chapter, "Nymph-o-mania" that is absent. if it helps Jason to track it the address used to be http://www.mangacool.com/php/show.php?msg=parodyverse-20060731132702 Quote: I know that the original idea was mostly inspired by the likes of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", only instead of the Hellmouth there would be some inherent creepiness in the town and school itself and then active interference by faeries sent by Camellia. (Faeries would do well in a shallow High School environment.)The town in question is Willingham, an ideal name for a place where reality and fable meets. Quote: In the years since, the more specific elements of the plotline were used by Hasbro in setting up their human spin-off of Pony called "Equestria Girls". They sent their formerly-antisocial-librarian-unicorn-just-turned-princess to an alternate reality where everyone was an oddly-colored human in high school. There's a whole other world of adventure that I've just never encountered, isn't there? Quote: So it had the not-totally-human princess from a magical land not fitting into the school, yet eventually uniting the fractured student body through friendship and good deeds (and defeating of monsters drawn by the influx of magic she represented), thus reassuring her that maybe she's cut out to be a leader after all. After Harry Potter, school days stories are back in fashion, even if they're mundane schools not wizarding ones. Quote: Sadly, she didn't have a "Last Unicorn" style breakdown about being able to feel her now-mortal body slowly dying around her... Sure, that's maybe a bit dark for High School hijinks, but still a missed opportunity, I'd say.) That is what fan fiction is for. Quote: I found one extra chapter of the North Star story beyond what you had, which I feel like I must have posted at some point, as it was written up to a suitably dramatic break (as Dancer enters my part of the story). From there it was just a matter of resolving it all. It's certainly worth the effort to complete it for the trade paperback. Quote: I think the exposition required was daunting, and so I kept putting it off in the hopes that some way of making it entertaining would come to me. Regardless, I'm not entirely sure how I meant to resolve it... I have some cryptic notes which makes me think I had some clever ending, but if so it has fully escaped me. As I mentioned elsewhere on the board recently, a good way of breaking that deadlock is to change the point of view or delivery format. A diary entry might suffice for this one. Maybe I've got diaries on my mind, since I've just rediscovered a story I'd forgotten about where 11 year old Sam featherstone recounts her first visit to the Lair Mansion. I'd completely forgotten about it and it came out fresh. Quote: If I actually get the free time to tackle anything, I'll give the whole thing another read-through and see if I can't recapture the mindset for it.Splendid. Quote: I'm not sure what their current status quo should really be though, or what the timeline is. The last thing I wrote was a future story about Griff as an adult SPUD agent, I think.I recall that one. I was only remarking to Rhiannon today that it was very tempting to just jump forward seven years or so and pick up with the Juniors, Mags, Griff, and Sam as the Lair Legion, were it not for the fact that it excludes many posters and almost all poster-heroes. Quote: So there's another story, right there, including advice and helpful intervention form a wider cast. I look forward to "The Quest for Hallie's Pants", coming soon. Quote: Best before the Da Visionary Code, eh?Quote: I'm not entirely sure that it's something to resolve, long term... but yes, there is certainly the possibility for some story material there. We'll see where things lead.The reason I flippantly mentioned fitting stuff in pre Da Visionary Code is that, as plotted, it involved Vizh and Hallie reincarnated - or preincarnated to be technical, in the past with their current memories - and human flesh. Quote: Quote: There are always worse things to do to Lisette.Quote: And any lurkers that might wish to de-lurk are welcome. Very few people have ever objected to more yellow font on the board.Quote: I keep hoping that, like Beetlejuice, if you say her name enough times, she'll appear...Proceed. | ||
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Subject: Re: Irrelevant Distractions [Re: Another double-length follow-on from... the Hooded Hood. This could be a sickness.] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 03:32:56 pm EST (Viewed 6 times) | |
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Irrelevant Distractions, or the honours system as seen by an uninformed outsider, First, as by now someone has left the Order of the Garter (the highest accolade the Crown can grant) and Sir Humphrey Appleby (Mumph’s bureaucratic adversary from my “Sir Humphrey vs. Sir Mumphrey†story in 2007) has passed on, isn’t Sir Mumphrey long overdue for a KG after his name? And I’d think he’d get a PC (Privy Councillor) as well. (Pause for scatological remark by CSFB or others.) HH referred to Elizabeth as “Baroness Wilton.†Traditionally, a woman upon marriage lost her title and assumed only her husband’s, because women could not inherit the title and its property rights and before marriage held only a courtesy title. So in the retcon Elizabeth should only be “Lady Wilton.†But -- post-World War I developments might have changed that. Elizabeth’s title is German in origin and the 1919 disestablishment of the German nobility relegated titles to a part of the family name. But, heritability of the title continued under the old rules, so Elizabeth still only had a courtesy title. In 1945, the East German government, which governed the site of the Schloss and the Zemo rights, abolished all titles, but the 1991 reunification probably brought Elizabeth back under the post-1919 rules. European and German human rights law probably would not support differing treatment of women and men on heritability of anything; thus, Elizabeth probably could argue that the title has become heritable by her and she is Freiin (Baroness, unmarried) in her own right rather than as a courtesy. That would support Ian’s descriptions. But, I’m unaware of a judicial decision to that effect. Query whether Sir Mumphrey would have regarded the post-WW-I changes as taradiddle, or whether he would have deferred to Elizabeth's insistence on retaining her title. That doesn’t end the inquiry. During World War I, I believe either a UK statute or an Order in Council required the sanction of the Crown for the use of a non-British title in the UK. The rule is generally unenforced in social contexts, but I assume Sir Mumphrey in the retcon would have lodged the appropriate application and received permission for Elizabeth. | ||
Al B. Harper Member Since: Mon Jan 04, 2016 Posts: 485 |
Subject: Can I still get the cold drink? [Re: HH] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 04:52:55 pm EST (Viewed 818 times) | |
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Quote: It started as a single-scene epilogue, honestly. It was the inside-the-tomb bit that restored Beth. Then I needed a follow-on conversation/confrontation with the Hood. Then a bunch of other scenes occurred to me as logical consequences, some prompted by poster feedback. Then when I'd got the finished product as two issues, a last reread showed that there was a ton of character stuff missing, which required the addition of this latest chapter.Quote: The justification for three issues is that each part has something of its own tone. An issue with the heroes out and about or mooching round the mansion and lighthouse is different from one set inside the walls of Herringcarp. As JJJ says below, more content is good. I'm enjoying it all. Quote: It would be great to hear from them. I do try to push the spotlight towards responding posters, so actually G-Eyed, CSFB! and Hatman might have got a lot more to do this time. Meanwhile, Yo and ManMan actually showed up!ManMan showed up? Quote: And no-one except Rhiannon remembered that last time we saw Manny he'd lost Knifey - except me.Umm... Should we be "uh-oh"'ing round about now or is it too late for that? Quote: As you saw, Sam is deploying Asil. Or, as future-Sam called her, "gran - Asil."I suppose Asil is a good distraction. Quote: I didn't want to cover whether Sally accepted. That's JJJ's call. However, of the current line-up she's the one who has the least status quo setup.Well, I hope she sticks with the LL for a while, though I can see rational for both outcomes. Quote: Quote: I really want to see Miss Framlicker take the Baroness down now. With Lisa's cat in her corner she cannot lose.Quote: They do seem like natural adversaries.I doubt Muffy would play dirty though, which would probably be her downfall. Quote: I'm not sure Yuki is immortal. Her brain is human and therefore subject to senesence over time. Of course. Quote: [Robsapien rights is] certainly deserving of a proper arc, but whether it's solvable except over many generations, like racism and sexism, is another matter.Quite. Quote: The mouse song is one that I repurposed from something I prepared for the Quest for Naari material back in the day.Gold star for recycling! Quote: This felt like the time for the big reveal that the Hood (and his writer) have been setting some things up for a loooong time.We've all been played? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: Quote: I look forward to the conclusion!Quote: Me too.Quote: Although the flashbacks are awfully Herringcarp Gothic.Delightful. *lightning flash, thunder clap* | ||
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Subject: Hope you recover quickly again! [Re: J. Jonah Jerkson] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 05:12:30 pm EST (Viewed 824 times) | |
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Subject: Really? Time to reinvest in paper then! [Re: HH] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2016 at 10:52:12 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote:At least he gets a snazzy tomb out of the deal! It's a bit of a fixer-upper. Hey, I've seen those home improvement shows... Really, it's all about the staging. Quote: Quote:Actually, I'm mistaken. I do have a copy of "Sir Mix-a-lot". It's your previous chapter, "Nymph-o-mania" that is absent. if it helps Jason to track it the address used to be http://www.mangacool.com/php/show.php?msg=parodyverse-20060731132702 That figures, because I actually found the Mix-alot one. I don't seem to have that one readily available... Hopefully on one of my external hard drives then. Quote: Quote:The town in question is Willingham, an ideal name for a place where reality and fable meets. Aha, yes! Regardless of the school storyline, I had always intended to explore that town a bit more. I wonder how George Gedney's old museum is doing. I recall them having some truly first class spoons. Quote: Quote:There's a whole other world of adventure that I've just never encountered, isn't there? You know, when I first started watching that show with my little cousin, I thought it was an excellent primer to get little girls enthused about geeky storytelling. It's not a primer for anything any more... it's a full on massive continuity of its own, making some comic book universes look positively quaint. An Official Handbook to the Pony Universe would be quite hefty by now. The last season finale had a time travelling villain messing with the heroes' origins, thereby creating various alternate timelines where the present was at war with or enslaved by villains they had previously defeated. I applaud instilling such storytelling tropes in the minds of little girls. Quote: Quote: Sadly, she didn't have a "Last Unicorn" style breakdown about being able to feel her now-mortal body slowly dying around her... Sure, that's maybe a bit dark for High School hijinks, but still a missed opportunity, I'd say.) That is what fan fiction is for. Ha... on a hunch, I did a google search for "last unicorn" and "equestria girls", and literally the first image option was a screenshot making this exact joke. I'm last to tackle all of my story ideas! Quote: Quote:As I mentioned elsewhere on the board recently, a good way of breaking that deadlock is to change the point of view or delivery format. A diary entry might suffice for this one. Maybe I've got diaries on my mind, since I've just rediscovered a story I'd forgotten about where 11 year old Sam featherstone recounts her first visit to the Lair Mansion. I'd completely forgotten about it and it came out fresh. Interesting idea... I'll consider it. I did enjoy writing that one Hallie story as a journalist penning an article about her... that's about the closest I've come to doing a diary entry. Although I suppose some of the Wangmundo stuff might count. Quote: Quote: I'm not sure what their current status quo should really be though, or what the timeline is. The last thing I wrote was a future story about Griff as an adult SPUD agent, I think. I recall that one. I was only remarking to Rhiannon today that it was very tempting to just jump forward seven years or so and pick up with the Juniors, Mags, Griff, and Sam as the Lair Legion, were it not for the fact that it excludes many posters and almost all poster-heroes. I sympathize, as I was inclined to do the same thing... just calculate how old they'd be in real time since I last identified their ages, and go from there. I had a lot of fun playing with the next generation in that one, including CSFB's youngest cast members. (I also feel like I surely wrote something other than that one story that had Garrick's daughter in it, but I can't find any evidence that this is true.) Honestly, though, I can't help but wonder if such a time skip would be welcome by folks in general... It would take the pressure off of having to continue things from where they left it. I, for one, have a very poor memory of all of my plotlines. Being able to say "Screw it... here's where they all are 7 years ahead" has a certain appeal. Hell, people could even do the whole "massive changes to be explained later" style reboot if they wanted to. Naturally, that's more of a problem for you... Even in my own story about Griff, I really didn't want to overly define how anyone's else's characters were in that future... and it's challenging to write around them, to say the least. Quote: Quote:The reason I flippantly mentioned fitting stuff in pre Da Visionary Code is that, as plotted, it involved Vizh and Hallie reincarnated - or preincarnated to be technical, in the past with their current memories - and human flesh. Aha... a good thing to know. I will give it some thought. Quote: Quote:I keep hoping that, like Beetlejuice, if you say her name enough times, she'll appear... Proceed. Dancer! Dancer! Dancer! | ||
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Subject: I think there are vending machines in the lobby, if you can pry thuddy off them. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 08:32:48 am EST (Viewed 6 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: It started as a single-scene epilogue, honestly. Quote: As JJJ says below, more content is good. I'm enjoying it all. The final part looks to be the longest, having already topped 10,000 words without the EEE stuff finished yet. So these six chapters equal the length of a book. Quote: ManMan showed up?I've always assumed that AIH and WGMY 101.4 were him, although I do not now recall whether I ever confirmed it. Quote: Quote: And no-one except Rhiannon remembered that last time we saw Manny he'd lost Knifey - except me.Quote: Umm... Should we be "uh-oh"'ing round about now or is it too late for that?I'm sure there is a perfectly in-continuity explanation for it eventually. Quote: I suppose Asil is a good distraction.She's come a long way. Quote: Quote: I didn't want to cover whether Sally accepted. That's JJJ's call. However, of the current line-up she's the one who has the least status quo setup.Quote: Well, I hope she sticks with the LL for a while, though I can see rational for both outcomes. At the least she's overdue for a chat with Beth Shellett. Quote: Quote: I really want to see Miss Framlicker take the Baroness down now. With Lisa's cat in her corner she cannot lose.Quote: I doubt Muffy would play dirty though, which would probably be her downfall. Miss F has friends, though. Quote: Quote: The mouse song is one that I repurposed from something I prepared for the Quest for Naari material back in the day.Quote: Gold star for recycling! The exchange of correspondence prepping for the Naari story was itself 7,800 words long! Quote: Quote: This felt like the time for the big reveal that the Hood (and his writer) have been setting some things up for a loooong time.Quote: We've all been played? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!Indeed. Quote: Quote: Although the flashbacks are awfully Herringcarp Gothic.Quote: Delightful. *lightning flash, thunder clap* | ||
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Subject: At the same time, predictions of increase in the e-book market proved over-optomistic [Re: Visionary] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 09:16:42 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Quote:At least he gets a snazzy tomb out of the deal! Quote: It's a bit of a fixer-upper.Quote: Hey, I've seen those home improvement shows... Really, it's all about the staging. It's only a matter of time before there's a "Pimp My Tomb" series. Quote: Quote: Quote: It's your previous chapter, "Nymph-o-mania" that is absent. Quote: That figures, because I actually found the Mix-alot one. I don't seem to have that one readily available... Hopefully on one of my external hard drives then.I see you found it. Thanks. At some point I'll make the neccessary adjustments to the link pages to get to it. Quote: Quote: Quote: The town in question is Willingham, an ideal name for a place where reality and fable meets.Quote: Aha, yes! Regardless of the school storyline, I had always intended to explore that town a bit more. I wonder how George Gedney's old museum is doing. I recall them having some truly first class spoons. It does need a bit of TLC now that it's Georgeless. I'd even considered moving Zebulon in there at one point. Quote: Quote: Quote: There's a whole other world of adventure that I've just never encountered, isn't there?Quote: You know, when I first started watching that show with my little cousin, I thought it was an excellent primer to get little girls enthused about geeky storytelling. It's not a primer for anything any more... it's a full on massive continuity of its own, making some comic book universes look positively quaint. An Official Handbook to the Pony Universe would be quite hefty by now. If folks enjoy it, I say good on 'em. And it sounds slightly healthier than the Disney princesses cult. Quote: The last season finale had a time travelling villain messing with the heroes' origins, thereby creating various alternate timelines where the present was at war with or enslaved by villains they had previously defeated. I applaud instilling such storytelling tropes in the minds of little girls.As a father myself, I would argue that it is essential. Quote: That is what fan fiction is for.Quote: Ha... on a hunch, I did a google search for "last unicorn" and "equestria girls", and literally the first image option was a screenshot making this exact joke. I am resigned to being the lowest common denominator. Quote: I'm last to tackle all of my story ideas!As long as you do them best, does it matter? Quote: Quote: Quote:As I mentioned elsewhere on the board recently, a good way of breaking that deadlock is to change the point of view or delivery format. A diary entry might suffice for this one. Quote: Interesting idea... I'll consider it. I did enjoy writing that one Hallie story as a journalist penning an article about her... that's about the closest I've come to doing a diary entry. Although I suppose some of the Wangmundo stuff might count. It's either diaries or depositions. Quote: I was only remarking to Rhiannon today that it was very tempting to just jump forward seven years or so and pick up with the Juniors, Mags, Griff, and Sam as the Lair Legion, were it not for the fact that it excludes many posters and almost all poster-heroes.Quote: I sympathize, as I was inclined to do the same thing... just calculate how old they'd be in real time since I last identified their ages, and go from there. I had a lot of fun playing with the next generation in that one, including CSFB's youngest cast members. There's no reason that you shouldn't. I'm happy pottering in a past I set up to my liking, but that shouldn't constrain others. In fact I even considered explaining why there had been six or seven years of relative inactivity: the Pax Cucullus ("Peace of the Hood"), in which a certain cowled crime czar enforces a period of criminal inactivity for his own ends as he prepares for something big. "Well done, Legionnaires. You may now go home. That is all. Proceed." The same storyline would have offered a time-jump to the present for those who didn't want their cast sitting around ageing, leading to a "return of the heroes and villains" thing a decade after they mysteriously vanished. Quote: (I also feel like I surely wrote something other than that one story that had Garrick's daughter in it, but I can't find any evidence that this is true.)I don't recall Garrick's daughter at all. So he had sex once? Quote: Honestly, though, I can't help but wonder if such a time skip would be welcome by folks in general... It would take the pressure off of having to continue things from where they left it. I, for one, have a very poor memory of all of my plotlines. Being able to say "Screw it... here's where they all are 7 years ahead" has a certain appeal. Hell, people could even do the whole "massive changes to be explained later" style reboot if they wanted to.My concern is that it is very unlikely that there will again be an ongoing posting community regularly producing PVB stories. It's therefore a toss-up between offering now-occasional contributors a new platform that doesn't force posters to remember where they were a decade ago and maintaining a comfortable background they are mostly familiar with and can draw on without much worry. And of course, there's the possibility of invoking "comic book time". Quote: Naturally, that's more of a problem for you... Even in my own story about Griff, I really didn't want to overly define how anyone's else's characters were in that future... and it's challenging to write around them, to say the least.If I had my way, I'd write a bit more in the time I'm currently covering at least, since there are stories I'd want to do (Da Visionary, the Juniors college years, the robot enfranchisement issue, Vinnie's family conflict, Deadeyes & Tom Black).But then I wouldn't be averse to a fast forward to real time again. That said, I am seriously unlikely to ever get to all those stories now. Quote: Quote: Quote:The reason I flippantly mentioned fitting stuff in pre Da Visionary Code is that, as plotted, it involved Vizh and Hallie reincarnated - or preincarnated to be technical, in the past with their current memories - and human flesh. Quote: Aha... a good thing to know. I will give it some thought.I hasten to add that I have no current plans for writing more of this than has been on for a good decade. Quote: Dancer! Dancer! Dancer!I lost my secret "in" to Shep's doings after my mum died and could no longer liase with her mum. However, I'm given to understand that these summonings require a true name. Unconfirmed rumour has it that the subject being sought may have acquired a new surname (which I don't know) since I last spoke to her in the Lair Legion Living Room chat in February 2012. Her last comment to me was "Be kinder to yourself." | ||
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Subject: Re: Maybe [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 09:22:53 am EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: I guess someone should tell [Vinnie] it doesn't work that way.Just because you tell people things doesn't meant they listen or understand them. Quote: Quote: I still think Yuki has a subconscious death wish pushing her to ever greater thrills and danger. After surviving her accident she treats every day like bonus time and spends it hard.Quote: Of course she does. Not that she wants to die, but she's not going to waste her life worrying about it. She figures if she dies doing something crazy, at least it was one hell of a ride."Better to burn out than fade away" Quote: Quote: You realise, of course, that this means war?Quote: Truthfully, Faite isn't worried about anything the Hood might try to do to her. She theorized a long time ago that his retcons and plans might be why she exists in the first place. It *would* explain why she is so hard to get rid of; Logically, he would create a failsafe that even *he* can't get rid of in case a rival manages to kill or vanish him somehow. Because if he can get rid of her, so can someone else.It's an interesting hypothesis. Quote: If that's true, though, he created a monster, because she also has unpredictable motives, a strong will of her own, and a desire to protect the PV even if it's from the Hood.The Hooded Hood has helped shape a number of people who oppose him, including Lisa, Dancer, CSFB!, Hatman, G-Eyed, the Baroness, and even Mumphrey. It's no fun being an archvillain without proper opposition. Quote: At the same time, though, Faite is sensitive to the fact that if she irritates the Hood too much, he might take it out on someone else. She did make the "mistake" of forming friendships with mortals, after all. So she picks her battles.Wise. Quote: Faite likes to stick with subtle because she believes direct confrontation - like the Lair Legion does - sparks a never-ending pissing contest between her and everyone with the slightest amount of power. She doesn't want any part of it.Noted. | ||
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Subject: Don't need letters to be of service to queen and country, dash it. Told that Woolley blighter as much [Re: J. Jonah Jerkson] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 10:40:59 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: First, as by now someone has left the Order of the Garter (the highest accolade the Crown can grant) and Sir Humphrey Appleby (Mumph’s bureaucratic adversary from my “Sir Humphrey vs. Sir Mumphrey†story in 2007) has passed on, isn’t Sir Mumphrey long overdue for a KG after his name? And I’d think he’d get a PC (Privy Councillor) as well. (Pause for scatological remark by CSFB or others.)Well remember the broughaha about this. H.M. and several well-meanin' chaps wanted to make a fuss about one running the show during that business with the Parody Blighter and suchlike. Were advised by minions and general flunkies that this would likely cause irritable bowel syndrome and similar in neccessary international business partners whose noses I'd been compelled to put out of joint, occasionally literally. Upshot was, awarding honours etc. was likely to affect balance of trade, war on terror, blood pressure of news barons etc., and therefore best to give the idea a miss. Was promised a book token when budget committee finally finishes session. Cue significant muttering from various agencies, all of whom ceased their jawing when became clear wasn't intending to go work for their murky agendas. Generally felt best if whole affair left to rot in committee until doomsday. Old pal Chief Insp. Gallowglass explained it all to me and instead bought me a double brandy, which frankly was a lot more useful. Quote: HH referred to Elizabeth as “Baroness Wilton.†Traditionally, a woman upon marriage lost her title and assumed only her husband’s, because women could not inherit the title and its property rights and before marriage held only a courtesy title. So in the retcon Elizabeth should only be “Lady Wilton.â€Suspect this might be artefact of Elizabeth insisting on Salic Law in Germanic territories. All to do with Chilperic and his ilk, as I gather it. Debretts decidedly vague on honorifics when previous Baron is now undead and pottering about requiring occasional kicking by all right-thinking gentlemen. Suspect fellow they sent round to explain to Elizabeth about possible etiquette blunder may have been recycled into garden mulch. Of course, in England Baroness generally titled Lady anyhow for most purposes (don't get me started about the '63 act. You try applying that to honours and military awards consecutively passed down through three fictional generations). Suffice to say, Beth von Zemo gets called whatever she requires and jolly old Debrett's had better hurry up and catch on, what? Quote: But -- post-World War I developments might have changed that. Elizabeth’s title is German in origin and the 1919 disestablishment of the German nobility relegated titles to a part of the family name. But, heritability of the title continued under the old rules, so Elizabeth still only had a courtesy title.In 1945, the East German government, which governed the site of the Schloss and the Zemo rights, abolished all titles, but the 1991 reunification probably brought Elizabeth back under the post-1919 rules. Well recall the ruckus when that little fellow with the EU identification came to carp on about it. "Sorry, don't want your metric titles here," I told him. "Didn't fight the Fuzzy-Wizzies to be told by some jumped-up snail-worshipping croissant-recycler with an abacus what to call my wife, don't you know." This was pre-retcon-retcon, naturally. No idea what happened to the chap in the restored timeline. Quote: European and German human rights law probably would not support differing treatment of women and men on heritability of anything; thus, Elizabeth probably could argue that the title has become heritable by her and she is Freiin (Baroness, unmarried) in her own right rather than as a courtesy. That would support Ian’s descriptions. But, I’m unaware of a judicial decision to that effect. Personal view is, when one has conquered the planet at least once it's reasonable to demand to be called whatever one likes. Shows respect. Quote: Query whether Sir Mumphrey would have regarded the post-WW-I changes as taradiddle, or whether he would have deferred to Elizabeth's insistence on retaining her title.Always allow a lady to decide, don't you know. Besides, Elizabeth's titles descend from before all that unfied Germany Bismark nonsense to the days when every bit of the Black Forest and thereabouts was a cricket-pitched sized independent kingdom raiding brockwurst from their neighbours and chasin' each other with bohemian earspoons. And good luck to 'em!" Quote: That doesn’t end the inquiry. During World War I, I believe either a UK statute or an Order in Council required the sanction of the Crown for the use of a non-British title in the UK. The rule is generally unenforced in social contexts, but I assume Sir Mumphrey in the retcon would have lodged the appropriate application and received permission for Elizabeth.May still have the hide somewhere on a wall of that spotty aiporth who tried to tell me I had to sit in some waiting room filling out forms. Made it clear to the jumped-up jobsworth pencil-snatchers that they'd bally well better sort out protocols to see it done or I'd know the reason why and be back to ask it. 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Subject: Re: Maybe [Re: HH] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 01:24:29 pm EST (Viewed 853 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 9.0.3 on MacOS X (0.07 points) Quote: Quote: I guess someone should tell [Vinnie] it doesn't work that way.Quote: Just because you tell people things doesn't meant they listen or understand them.Depends who does the telling sometimes, too. Quote: "Better to burn out than fade away"If Yuki's skin was permeable, she'd probably have a tattoo which says that. Quote: Quote: If that's true, though, he created a monster, because she also has unpredictable motives, a strong will of her own, and a desire to protect the PV even if it's from the Hood.Quote: The Hooded Hood has helped shape a number of people who oppose him, including Lisa, Dancer, CSFB!, Hatman, G-Eyed, the Baroness, and even Mumphrey. It's no fun being an archvillain without proper opposition.Faite knows that, which is why she refuses to play those games with him. And yes, she does know that it infuriates him. Quote: Quote: At the same time, though, Faite is sensitive to the fact that if she irritates the Hood too much, he might take it out on someone else. She did make the "mistake" of forming friendships with mortals, after all. So she picks her battles.Quote: Wise.She knows him reasonably well, because she's been watching the nuances of his behavior for a long time. | ||
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Subject: Alternate story title: Intricately Planned ParentHood [Re: Another double-length follow-on from... the Hooded Hood. This could be a sickness.] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 06:36:48 pm EST | |
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Subject: Isn't he still stuck inside one of them? [Re: HH] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 09:13:09 pm EST (Viewed 814 times) | |
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Quote: The final part looks to be the longest, having already topped 10,000 words without the EEE stuff finished yet. So these six chapters equal the length of a book.I'm not sure I should be relieved or worried that you haven't finished the EEE! stuff. Quote: Quote: ManMan showed up?Quote: I've always assumed that AIH and WGMY 101.4 were him, although I do not now recall whether I ever confirmed it.Ah. I am hopeless at guessing that kind of thing. For the longest time I thought WGMY101.4 and JJJ were one and the same. Is someone Jarvis? And who was AJA? Quote: I'm sure there is a perfectly in-continuity explanation for it [Knifey's reappearance with Manny] eventually.I'm sure someone will suffer from it also. Quote: Quote: I suppose Asil is a good distraction.Quote: She's come a long way.And I hope become more than just a distraction for Mumph. She should come back with George and announce her pregnancy. Because Lord knows you needs more children characters to torment. I'd like to see Mumph play the field, hook up with an independent woman of more mature age. Dame Violet Matilda Eileen Rutherford MP perhaps - she's a no nonsense go-getter (and is single). Or famed celebrity chef Edwina Brooks now that she has split with her husband (yes, I just made these ladies up). Quote: At the least she's [Silicone Sally] overdue for a chat with Beth Shellett.Next issue? Quote: Miss F has friends, though.Yes, yes she does. And the EEE! databases are comprehensive, (and well protected thank you - we had Hacker 9 on that). Quote: The exchange of correspondence prepping for the Naari story was itself 7,800 words long!A story in itself. Quote: We've all been played? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!Quote: Indeed.*shakes fist* Quote: Quote: Quote: Although the flashbacks are awfully Herringcarp Gothic.Quote: Quote: Delightful. *lightning flash, thunder clap*I remember those pictures. From your 'adults only' phase. | ||
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Subject: I love it when he goes the full Mumph. [Re: Sir Mumphrey answers the protocol issues.] Posted Sat Jan 23, 2016 at 09:20:04 pm EST (Viewed 856 times) | |
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