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Subject: I'm kind of upset that this exists in the real world before I got around to it in the Parodyverse... Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 02:49:12 pm EDT (Viewed 476 times) |
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On the other hand, it's both scary and kind of cool that the real world is getting that close to the Parodyverse. Naturally, it's Japan that's rushing there headlong. I'm sure those on the board who are more familiar with Japanese culture are farther ahead of the curve than me on this, as this is apparently nothing new. It seems that the artificial nature of our Western pop stars with their inability to play instruments, compose music or do anything other than dance and sing in auto-tuned voices was a laughable half-measure to the Land of the Rising Sun. Why settle for some kind of cyborg puppet teenager when you can go full on synthetic? Enter Vocaloids... Synthetic singing voices. Apparently, it's like advanced text-to-speech software that replicates a singing voice. You put the music in, type the words you want said on each note, play with the inflection a bit and you have yourself a singer for your song. I suppose it's really no different than using a synthesizer for keyboards or orchestrations... it's just treating the human voice as another instrument. Only, of course, human voices tend to be distinctive from one another. So, too, are Vocaloids. Hence, they each have names. One of the most popular is Hatsune Miku. If you license her software, you can program her to sing your song. And she is something of a pop star herself, despite not existing. She has a 3-D modeled computer animated avatar that is readily recognizable. According to Wikipedia, she even has a height (5'2"), a weight (93lbs), an age (16), a birthday (August 31st...although how does that effect her age?). She has some serious licensing deals, has been plastered on race cars and even had engravings of her launched into space on real-life Japanese spacecrafts. Seriously. Engraved *pictures* of a synthetic singing voice have been launched into space, I assume in an effort to make a first strike against any aggressive aliens who happen upon them by making their brains explode while trying to decipher what the hell humans are up to this planet. My favorite bit on her Wikipedia page: When asked what the benefits would be of having a singer that is not real, 12-year-old Zak replied, "Maybe you can make money and not give any of the money to the fake singer." Smart boy, that Zak. Plus, she probably won't ever have a coke-fueled public breakdown after shoplifting or anything like that, so there's another benefit. Anyway, this whole observation was brought on by running across this video of a real crowd rocking out to a "live", vaguely-holographic concert by another synthetic performer, Megurine Luka, which instantly made me ask "Why the hell isn't this kind of thing featured in a Hallie story yet?" If I can ever find the time, it will have to be. | |
Yo, of course you would notice synthetic singers... |
Subject: the weirdest thing for me, is that she really could be one of your pict come to life. [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 03:40:19 pm EDT (Viewed 7 times) |
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Seing her dancing in the video was like entering one of your stories. I could see Visi and fleabot backstage trying really hard to save the world and getting a double synthetic date at the same time. | |
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Subject: I did find it kind of surreal... [Re: Yo, of course you would notice synthetic singers...] Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 04:21:33 pm EDT (Viewed 413 times) |
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Quote: Seing her dancing in the video was like entering one of your stories. I could see Visi and fleabot backstage trying really hard to save the world and getting a double synthetic date at the same time. Right now I'm leaning towards an assassination plot against a singer that doesn't exist as the driving idea behind a story. I just need to work out exactly how that would... work. But yeah, I had the same reaction to seeing people cheering a holographic anime woman performing on stage. | |
killer shrike can't be the only one who remembers "Pink Lady" |
Subject: Synthetic J-Pop stars aren't anything new [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 04:44:47 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times) |
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Subject: This just seems to be taken to a different level... [Re: killer shrike can't be the only one who remembers "Pink Lady"] Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 05:05:03 pm EDT (Viewed 434 times) |
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After all, here in America "The Archies" had a pop hit in "Sugar Sugar" despite being cartoon/comic book characters... so it's not like its without precedence. Fake bands abound... Milli Vanilli, The Monkeys... hell, I think even the Ninja Turtles did a rock concert tour. Of course, even cartoon bands and such had always had actual performers behind them being brought into recording studios and singing the songs before this. Now you don't need to bother with that. While there was a voice actress somewhere who provided the base sounds for these programs, they likely have never uttered the phrases that make up the lyrics of any songs these artificial characters sing. I looked up "Pink Lady" by the way, and Wikipedia seems to indicate that they were a living pop group in Japan that had animated adventures made about them or something. So they seem to be no more synthetic than your average pop star. | |
killer shrike |
Subject: I was trying to make a joke actually [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 05:43:01 pm EDT (Viewed 1 times) |
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Visionary Moderator would not have been surprised to learn that they were robots halfway down the wiki entry. Member Since: Sat Jan 03, 2004 Posts: 2,131 |
Subject: I wondered, but when it comes to Japanese culture I can never really tell. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 05:44:40 pm EDT (Viewed 366 times) |
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killer shrike |
Subject: Do a takeoff on "The Bodyguard" with Fleabot in the Kevin Costner role? [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 05:46:49 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times) |
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Quote: Right now I'm leaning towards an assassination plot against a singer that doesn't exist as the driving idea behind a story. I just need to work out exactly how that would... work. | |
Al B. Harper |
Subject: Well, here is a great way for Hallie to win people over to the Robosapien rights movement. [Re: Visionary] Posted Sat Nov 05, 2011 at 06:57:39 pm EDT (Viewed 3 times) |
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That's just crazy oddball. | |
Manga Shoggoth Member Since: Fri Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 391 |
Subject: ...Got a damn sight more character than anything out of the Simon Cowell stable... [Re: Visionary] Posted Sun Nov 06, 2011 at 02:20:44 pm EST (Viewed 373 times) |
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Subject: Not nearly as pitchy either. [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Sun Nov 06, 2011 at 11:37:10 pm EST (Viewed 365 times) |
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Subject: She's not much for singing in public. What she does in the virtual shower is hard to say. [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Sun Nov 06, 2011 at 11:38:44 pm EST (Viewed 397 times) |
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Quote: That's just crazy oddball. I'm sure they've got their top people working on things far more oddball than that... |
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