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Subject: Can anyone give me a list of all the alternate versions of Visionary that have appeared in the PVB? Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 11:15:17 am EDT (Viewed 1 times) |
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Subject: That seems like something I should know, doesn't it? [Re: killer shrike may have an idea for a story if he gets ambitious enough] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 03:46:20 pm EDT (Viewed 394 times) |
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Er... well, there was the "Anti-Visionary" from the League of Irregulars story. There was Functionary and his assistant Brap from the Moderator saga. We saw a one-chapter tease of a would-be villainous Visionary teamed with Ms. Pfeffercorn and Brap about to form a team called "The Undesirables". The early round-robin "Return to the Parodyverse" featured a dystopic future for the Lair Legion, and had the death of a techno-organic, amnesiac Visionary. I recall a few more alternate universes (From your own Mr. Epitome stories, AG certainly dealt in many in his Crisis series, Untold Tales featured the Swordrealms with the alternate reality son of Hatman Sir John de Jaboz) but I don't recall if Vizh was more than mentioned (if that) in any of them. Depending on how you wanted to define "alternate Visionarys", there was the teenage Visionary from Follies of Youth, and the common weasel version that pops up now and again. He was also holographic for a while after the Robosapiens were lost along with his digitized body in the attack on Hallie's Mainframe. He was slightly undead after having his heart cut out due to being infected by Nyarlurkhotep and possibly given a hickey by Ursula Underess in "Heart of Darkness". There certainly may be more, even some obvious ones, that I'm forgetting right now. | |
killer shrike |
Subject: Got some bad news for you, Vizh: [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 04:22:27 pm EDT (Viewed 12 times) |
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Guess who's getting a new look for the DC reboot? | |
Manga Shoggoth Member Since: Fri Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 391 |
Subject: Also the Apostate, who is an alternative Visionary who cant exist because the current one does... [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 05:08:30 pm EDT (Viewed 395 times) |
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Hatman couldn't even figure out who that was supposed to be at first Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 1970 Posts: 618 |
Subject: So not cool [Re: killer shrike] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 05:55:01 pm EDT (Viewed 392 times) |
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Subject: Speaking as a male chauvinist pig [Re: Hatman] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 06:01:24 pm EDT (Viewed 8 times) |
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the new look has a definite appeal. But it doesn't fit the personality of the character at all. I also find it odd that DC gets rid of Wonder Woman's thong, Supergirl's skirt, and Zatanna's fishnets and then goes and tramps up Harley. | |
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Subject: Has it been officially established that The Apostate is an alternate version of Visionary? I know there have been some strong hints to that effect [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 06:04:25 pm EDT (Viewed 1 times) |
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Subject: Heh... when a design manages to be sluttier than the video game version, that's really saying something. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 07:46:42 pm EDT (Viewed 431 times) |
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Here's the "Arkham City" video game redesign in order to have Harley showing more skin: I'm quite impressed that DC editorial looked at that and thought "Psst... prudes. What are the hookers in Grand Theft Auto wearing these days?" I actually like the drawing itself, and some aspects of the costume are cool if you absolutely must go "hardcore" (I really have no idea what Harley is like in the regular DC universe anyway.) But the sluttiness of it is way over the top... It looks like she stole the outfit from that comic book publisher who does the fairy tale characters in lingerie on all of their covers. | |
Visionary Moderator Member Since: Sat Jan 03, 2004 Posts: 2,131 |
Subject: It'd be another "depends on how you'd care to look at it" case. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 08:02:17 pm EDT (Viewed 379 times) |
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It's never been established either way whether the Apostate, unmasked, resembles Visionary. We just know that the Apostate accuses Visionary of occupying the space in the Parodyverse that was meant for him. So by that measure, he would truly be an alternate choice to (although perhaps not another version of) Visionary. I'd say it might be like spiffy and Thugos both being versions of HH's son at one point. Or not. It's all rather confusing. People can feel free to count it any way they like. | |
Al B. Harper |
Subject: Aren't there endless alternate versions of Visionary? [Re: killer shrike may have an idea for a story if he gets ambitious enough] Posted Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 09:36:53 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times) |
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I'm sure there was a story about Visionaria, from the alternate universe where every male PVB character is female and vice versa. If not, well there should have been! I remember writing a snippet from an alternate dystopic future where Cody Harper (I think) had an interesting wristwatch that was actually all that remained of Hallie, as she communicated in beeps and bops Cody used his language skills to interpret. I can't remember what that was written for - I think it was a tie-in to something. Although I never added him in, the Visionary from that future had become a stretched hide like this: He could still communicate and talk as his face would appear in the hide and he was hung on the wall in the lounge of some nefarious villain. He had increased wisdom. I guess we'd call him "Hide Visonary". Or maybe Hideonary. ? Al B. | |
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Subject: Its like you read my mind [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Fri Jun 10, 2011 at 10:17:09 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times) |
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So instead of needing a rug, Vizh becomes one? Wicked! *catches the reflection of his own hairline in a window and cries* | |
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Subject: One of my many yet secret powers is the ability to read minds, yes. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sat Jun 11, 2011 at 02:28:40 am EDT (Viewed 3 times) |
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Quote: So instead of needing a rug, Vizh becomes one? Wicked!He had developed quite profound insight by then. It is almost as if, in that far dystopia, he became a true visionary. Alas the nefarious villain does not pay too much attention to his regular commentary. Merely keeping him as a trophy of sorts - or a comment point during dinner parties. Al B. | |
Manga Shoggoth Member Since: Fri Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 391 |
Subject: Not one to let a feed line starve.,, [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Sat Jun 11, 2011 at 04:35:50 am EDT (Viewed 436 times) |
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Quote: Alas the nefarious villain does not pay too much attention to his regular commentary. Merely keeping him as a trophy of sorts - or a comment point during dinner parties. He's Jester Visionary then? | |
Nitz the Bloody Member Since: Mon Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 139 |
Subject: Re: Heh... when a design manages to be sluttier than the video game version, that's really saying something. [Re: Visionary] Posted Sat Jun 11, 2011 at 09:14:41 pm EDT (Viewed 389 times) |
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Video games exercise more discretion than many DC Comics, as until recently DC didn't use any indications to distinguish mature audiences content, and lost face over such instances as the F-bombs in All-Star Batman and the "ignis coitus" scene in Eric Wallace's Titans. I should also note that I absolutely loved Batman: Arkham Asylum and await Arkham City with baited breath. It was like Rocksteady filtered all the best parts of Batman through choice parts of Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid. (Okay, maybe that last one is overstating it, but still...) www.rubysworldcomic.com | |
Al B. Harper |
Subject: Isn't that an oxymoron? [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 05:49:03 am EDT (Viewed 3 times) |
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Quote: He's Jester Visionary then?yep. that's all he is. |
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