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First, on a side note, if you haven't read and responded to the latest Untold Tales, you really should. Not only is the new line-up story fun and informative, but we're waiting to find out about Hatty being shot in the head. Help the poor guy out by hurrying the next chapter along.

Here's also hoping that things are okay with our missing posters, and they've just found themselves busy as the summer months begin. I know some people were dealing with quite a lot in their private lives... I wish them all my best.

Anyway, "Iron Man 2"... I enjoyed it, although I would agree that it is not as good as the first film. I've heard a variety of theories as to why, but for me it ultimately comes down to the Homer Simpson quote: "It was just a bunch of stuff that happened." It was, for the most part, highly entertaining stuff, but it did lack a strong narrative to tie it all together and give weight to the most important parts.

With the original, it built well to him putting the beat-down on those terrorists in Afghanistan. We knew they were the bad guys, and we had a little extra set-up just before Iron Man arrived to really make us want someone to put a stop to them. The end battle wasn't as satisfying, but logically it made sense as Stane was tied to everything that had gone down before.

With the sequel, I just never felt that investment. There were some great scenes and sequences. The villain never did anything other than try to kill Stark. The personal journey of responsibility that the hero went through in the first movie was a bit more randomly applied in the second, and seemed disconnected from the threat of the villain... as did the quest to heal himself. I think the script could have used one more pass to strengthen up some themes to bring it all together.

That said, the movie is still solidly enjoyable. I liked all of the characters again, some more than I expected to (Fury, I will admit, worked better than I anticipated, although I still don't see him as anything more than Samuel Jackson in an eyepatch.) I'm not sure I ever saw "The Black Widow" in Scarlet Johannson, but I enjoyed her fight scenes.

The movie probably did its job in that I'm more interested in "Thor" after the end credits scene than I am "Iron Man 3"...




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    First, on a side note, if you haven't read and responded to the latest Untold Tales, you really should. Not only is the new line-up story fun and informative, but we're waiting to find out about Hatty being shot in the head. Help the poor guy out by hurrying the next chapter along.


There's also a story from said head trauma victim that could be replied to as well... \:\)


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    Here's also hoping that things are okay with our missing posters, and they've just found themselves busy as the summer months begin. I know some people were dealing with quite a lot in their private lives... I wish them all my best.


Agreed.


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    With the original, it built well to him putting the beat-down on those terrorists in Afghanistan. We knew they were the bad guys, and we had a little extra set-up just before Iron Man arrived to really make us want someone to put a stop to them. The end battle wasn't as satisfying, but logically it made sense as Stane was tied to everything that had gone down before.


I thought that final fight scene was the only "weak" part of the first film; I thought the fight scenes were better in the sequel.


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    With the sequel, I just never felt that investment. There were some great scenes and sequences. The villain never did anything other than try to kill Stark. The personal journey of responsibility that the hero went through in the first movie was a bit more randomly applied in the second, and seemed disconnected from the threat of the villain... as did the quest to heal himself. I think the script could have used one more pass to strengthen up some themes to bring it all together.


I also think that Stark and Vanko were only in 2 scenes together, and that's including the final fight (where the actors don't really get to play off of each other). That struck me as a little strange, honestly, since the one scene they were in together was good.


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    That said, the movie is still solidly enjoyable. I liked all of the characters again, some more than I expected to (Fury, I will admit, worked better than I anticipated, although I still don't see him as anything more than Samuel Jackson in an eyepatch.) I'm not sure I ever saw "The Black Widow" in Scarlet Johannson, but I enjoyed her fight scenes.


I still don't like that the movies are going with Ultimate Nick Fury; the character just isn't the same as the cantankerous warhorse I know and love.

Considering the Widow was undercover, I guess it's okay you didn't see much of the Black Widow in the character. \:\) I thought that her costume looked right on (though her stingers looked a little plasticy to me). Her raid on Hammer Industries was fun, and at the same time I liked how Happy's fighting style was boxing (even though he only took out one guy).

As much as I hate when a character is played by a different actor in a sequel (with the other exception of Dark Knight and what's her name, the love interest), I thought that Cheadle was a better Rhodey than Howard was. Howard's Rhodey was just too soft-spoken for me; Cheadle felt tougher, which is needed to play Rhodey.

Even though I think the first film was the stronger of the two, the sequel offered up a lot of high octane fun, and that's alright to.


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    The movie probably did its job in that I'm more interested in "Thor" after the end credits scene than I am "Iron Man 3"...


I had already seen the after-credit scene on-line, which I regretted at the theatre because I wasn't as blown away as I should have been when I saw it on the big screen. I would've loved just a second or two more to admire Mjolnir, but oh well. I am very excited for the Thor film!

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    I enjoyed that sequence, and my only complaint about the Widow's costume was that she didn't actually use her bracelets for anything. In truth, I'm not sure what would make her "feel" like the Black Widow to me... We'll have to see what Joss Whedon does with her, if anything.


I agree I was disappointed the bracelets weren't used. Whedon isn't confirmed yet though, is he?


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      As much as I hate when a character is played by a different actor in a sequel (with the other exception of Dark Knight and what's her name, the love interest), I thought that Cheadle was a better Rhodey than Howard was. Howard's Rhodey was just too soft-spoken for me; Cheadle felt tougher, which is needed to play Rhodey.



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    I was fine with it, and Cheadle did a good job. I do think the story kind of took for granted that affection from the first film would carry over to the characters on the second, and by changing the actors I think they hamstringed that a bit. The history of the characters from the first film didn't totally translate over to the conflict here because of the new face, for me.


Agree completely here.


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      Even though I think the first film was the stronger of the two, the sequel offered up a lot of high octane fun, and that's alright to.



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    Definitely. I'm eager to see more Marvel movies, and if they're all as good as this one then they'll be in fine shape.


For sure. Iron Man 2 was still better in my mind than Ghost Rider, Incredible Hulk, the Fantastic Four Films, X3...

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