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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: New Message Board Concept - Comments Welcome Posted Tue May 11, 2010 at 09:17:45 pm EDT (Viewed 551 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0.04 points) I sort of have been thinking about this theoretically for a while now, but it didn't really come together in my mind until I was walking around outside earlier today. This post is partly to help me remember it later on, and partly a request for comments from everyone here. It went from a very complicated original concept to this very simple one: - Posts are owned not by the message board, but by the poster. Each poster is its own message board. For instance, every post I make goes into a database with my User-ID code, and every post HH makes goes into a database with his User-ID code. - What were formerly Message Boards do not contain any posts. They're actually "Topics" that a poster chooses when he or she posts a message. There can be a moderator-approved list of topics, or optionally, poster-sponsored topics (probably not though, due to the excessive number of topics this would create). This makes it similar to the hash tags and "trends" feature of Twitter and Facebook. - Posts can be made to multiple Topics instead of a single one at a time. - Messages can therefore be viewed by Poster or by Topic. You can choose to follow a particular poster's posts, or all posters post's on a Topic. - Moderators keep an eye on a topic, and can remove a poster's topic-link if the post doesn't apply to that topic. That would effectively be like deleting a post from a message board. If the poster's post has no more topics, it's placed in a Deleted queue and no longer appears in a poster's list of posts. This feature is really neat: Because it sort of requires an "election" between moderators to delete a post entirely. - Managers on up can remove a poster's post from all topics at once (deleting it) and remove topic-links from a post. - Posters can be banned from using individual topics by moderators, or from all topics by Managers on up. Here are the possible difficulties of the new concept: - Not yet sure if it's possible; I know I can index user's posts, but aggregating them so they appear in a master index page might kill the server dead. - It would be difficult to figure out how to manage posts by posters who don't have an account. While there currently is a "key" password system to allow them to add/modify/delete posts without logging in, those users have no User-ID associated with that. I'd have to find a way to map the posting name/password to a unique User-ID. - I'm not entirely sure how to import existing old-style posts into the new system. I know it *can* be done, just not how to go about it just yet. Comments? Questions? | |
Visionary Moderator thinks it sounds interesting. Member Since: Sat Jan 03, 2004 Posts: 2,131 |
Subject: My brain is currently unable to process the meaning of any of this. Maybe after I sleep on Friday. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed May 12, 2010 at 12:48:23 am EDT (Viewed 436 times) |
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CrazySugarFreakBoy! read this post twice and understood it neither time, and would kind of prefer things simpler anyway. Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235 |
Subject: I would humbly suggest that first priority should instead be fixing the glitches that Ian and Jay keep fighting when they try to post, before you do any of this new stuff. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed May 12, 2010 at 02:25:04 am EDT (Viewed 392 times) |
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: You're not going to sleep till Friday?? [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed May 12, 2010 at 03:32:14 pm EDT (Viewed 440 times) |
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: The trick to those is tracking them down... [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Wed May 12, 2010 at 03:35:19 pm EDT (Viewed 353 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0.11 points) ...because it's not something I'm seeing. Because of that, I'm guessing it's a network glitch, which is going to be a real pain to track down since ISP's are not responsive at all these days. They generally have the attitude that you're lucky it works at all. If I do start seeing a cause at the software end, I'll fix it almost immediately. Btw, I'm going to see if I can add some kind of logging feature that can detect incomplete requests, but I'm not sure if it's possible yet (since over half that is browser side). | |
Hatman Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 1970 Posts: 618 |
Subject: My problem... [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed May 12, 2010 at 03:48:56 pm EDT (Viewed 421 times) |
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On dial-up, I find if I try to edit a post, I then get a "Bad Header Request" and see the entire post in one long stream of HTML. To get back to the board I then have to go and delete the Cookie that has the saved text in it. Now that I figured out the Cookie thing it's not a huge deal, but it is a bit of a pain (added to the eternal pain of dial-up ) ~Hat~ | |
Hatman Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 1970 Posts: 618 |
Subject: I'm not sure I comprehend how this works, I'll have to read it over again later [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed May 12, 2010 at 03:49:21 pm EDT (Viewed 326 times) |
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Re: My problem... [Re: Hatman] Posted Wed May 12, 2010 at 11:05:25 pm EDT (Viewed 412 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0.5 points) Quote: On dial-up, I find if I try to edit a post, I then get a "Bad Header Request" and see the entire post in one long stream of HTML. To get back to the board I then have to go and delete the Cookie that has the saved text in it. Now that I figured out the Cookie thing it's not a huge deal, but it is a bit of a pain (added to the eternal pain of dial-up )Has that happened since Sunday? I patched a problem with the auto-save cookie back then, it might be related. | |
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Subject: If it aint broke don't fix it? [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Fri May 14, 2010 at 10:04:56 pm EDT (Viewed 3 times) |
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I still lurk, but I don't know about this, Jason. Segregating people into individual boards might hurt the communal atmosphere. Plus, I'm a little wary of that "invidual topics being banned" clause as someone who (albeit rarely) tends to post NC-17 rated stories. | |
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Subject: Yikes! You have dial-up, Hats?? [Re: Hatman] Posted Fri May 14, 2010 at 10:09:04 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times) |
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Did you slip through a worm-hole and end up in 1998? Just kidding, bud. But I have to ask, why the antiquated net connection? | |
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Re: If it aint broke don't fix it? [Re: Mess-] Posted Fri May 14, 2010 at 11:47:17 pm EDT (Viewed 368 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0 points) Quote: I still lurk, but I don't know about this, Jason. Segregating people into individual boards might hurt the communal atmosphere. Plus, I'm a little wary of that "invidual topics being banned" clause as someone who (albeit rarely) tends to post NC-17 rated stories. It's actually the complete opposite. It makes things so you don't have to choose a single topic to post - you can select multiple topics to post in (since the PVB only has one though, there will be little change here in that regard). Same with deleting - if it's removed from a topic, that doesn't necessarily completely delete the post until it's removed from all topics. The banning from individual topics works exactly like banning from a message board now - I just added that to emphasize that global posting won't affect the ability to ban from individual message boards. I think the confusion came from the terminology. Basically, topic = message board. It just has a different name. | |
Hatman Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 1970 Posts: 618 |
Subject: Afraid so [Re: Messenger] Posted Sat May 15, 2010 at 09:51:41 am EDT (Viewed 368 times) |
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Quote: Did you slip through a worm-hole and end up in 1998? Quote: Just kidding, bud. But I have to ask, why the antiquated net connection?I like to call it "no choice". I have high speed at work, but since I live in the country high speed isn't available. I could get what I like to call "medium speed" but the set-up cost is $500, and I'm not willing to fork over that kind of cash considering I rent my house. If I owned it I'd think about it. The Canadian government announced funding for rural broadband service and my area should be included in that, but who knows when we'll actually see results. They granted the funding to a company I've never heard of and I couldn't find a website for them, which is never good for a comapny that'll be selling internet! ~Hat~ | |
Hatman Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 1970 Posts: 618 |
Subject: Haven't tried since Sunday, but when I post my next story I'll try edit it to see if the problem occurs or not [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sat May 15, 2010 at 09:53:03 am EDT (Viewed 417 times) |
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Nats Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 85 |
Subject: So... it becomes a group blog instead of a message board? [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun May 16, 2010 at 01:35:12 pm EDT (Viewed 323 times) |
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Nats Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 85 |
Subject: Canada has phones now!?!? [Re: Hatman] Posted Sun May 16, 2010 at 01:37:18 pm EDT (Viewed 406 times) |
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Tee hee. | |
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: A hybrid of both. [Re: Nats] Posted Sun May 16, 2010 at 10:31:44 pm EDT (Viewed 339 times) |
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