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Subject: #342: Untold Tales of the Lair Legion Protocols: Darker Than Orange Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 11:29:45 am EDT (Viewed 26 times) | |
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Subject: So this isn't even the entire chapter? Because it has a certain chapter-y weight to it. [Re: The Hooded Hood notes for the record that this chapter used to be called "All Change" - that should make sense of the message thread] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 12:31:28 pm EDT (Viewed 786 times) | |
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Good stuff as things become further unraveled, and I'm not entirely sure how it's all going to be put back together again. Luckily, the Hood seems to know, so I'm sure it will all work out for the best... So Citizen Z seems a lock for the new line-up. I assume the Hood feels that it's a good thing that she doesn't want to destroy the Legion for a variety of reasons I couldn't even guess at. I suppose she'd pass the Magweed test at the very least. Plus, I imagine it's just plain meaner for her to help destroy the team when it's not what she wants to do. Hodgekiss really does need to have his butt handed to him. I'm not sure exactly how that's likely to happen though... He can certainly give as good as he gets in any shouting match across a desk. Dream got downright unnerving at the end of that scene. Loved the confrontation between the MLF and Hamboy, and the reason why the mighty man of meat had no problem stopping the new mutate speedster. Interesting that his cousin seems to have gotten the exact powers that Josh had... I do wonder if Hamboy kept the date for him. Not sure what the Hood is up to yet with Clockwatcher... You're going to be mean to Icy, and that's not nice. I don't see him chickening out, but I also don't want him disappearing, so I'm not sure what to expect here. He should have listened to Denial though. Hatman certainly mastered the art of making a difference without any powers in no time flat. I'm ready to start the "Hatman for President" campaign. Of course, him being Canadian is a bit of a hang up... maybe we can convince people he's just from Minnesota? So it looks like Nats, Dancer, Icy and Amber are out, and Citizen Z and Hallie are in, at least at the current moment. I'm thinking Izzy will have a profound effect on the direction of things in the rest of this chapter, however... At least I hope so. Looking forward to more on the mysteries of Garrick, and finding out who the new Champion of Order is as well! | ||
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Subject: Eww, gross [Re: The Hooded Hood notes for the record that this chapter used to be called "All Change" - that should make sense of the message thread] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 12:45:46 pm EDT (Viewed 773 times) | |
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I'm glad I "perverted the gift"; I'm not sure what the calorie count is on brains, but either way I'll gladly pass on finding out. CSFB! really is digging himself into a hole with his actions and reactions. Really he's learning that being in the big chair means adjusting your behavior, as Hawkeye learned when he became a team leader with the Avengers. I'm curious to see if we get Amber back after all of this or if we end up with a new LL liaison. Nice to see Hatman using his connections to get the Foundation up and running. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles the League of Losers without his powers, or if he even can. Poor Icy. Things will not end well for him I'm sure. I liked how Ham-Boy easily took down the inexperienced MLA speedster. Experience goes a long way in the superpowers game, and Ham-Boy proved it. I keep thinking I should write a tie-in with Hatman sitting down to talk with CSFB! about what he's doing but I don't think it would work for story purposes at the moment; Hatman really does need to be absent for CSFB! to continue on the path he's set for the Legion. ~Hat~ | ||
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Subject: Change for $20? [Re: The Hooded Hood notes for the record that this chapter used to be called "All Change" - that should make sense of the message thread] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 02:30:07 pm EDT (Viewed 759 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0.13 points) I was sure Hodgekiss would react more angrily when CSFB! mentioned Anna. That's got to be a major thorn in the military's side. When I read Sonic Boom I thought of the guy from the movie Sky High - the gym teacher that yelled "Siiiidekick!" (it's a common super-type name, but it's funny anyhow). I'm going to have to post the first part of Mysteries of Faite in the next 24 hours, even if it overlaps with the other story, because otherwise my next suggestion won't make much sense: Icy could have also talked to Faite (it would make more sense after the post, because presumably now she's too difficult to find). Maybe Faite could help, maybe not, but she has the opposite priority than the Hooded Hood - she would be more intent on making Icy believe that changing things would only make them worse, and she would create visual aids to drive home the point. Originally Faite's "return" was supposed to coincide with the forces of Order and Chaos going out of balance, so this seems like as good a time as any. She also seems to be just in time to reign in the Hooded Hood just a bit, just when he's at his most diabolical (she would probably start by warning him that his agenda is upsetting a balance he so carefully created). If Goldeneyed were to ask Liu Xi whether he exists, and explain how, her only response would be "You exist, so shut up." I figured Amber would end up resigning. Maybe that would end up hurting CSFB!'s feelings enough to change his mind a bit. If that doesn't work, maybe Liu Xi cursing at him about destroying everything he loves might help, since he knows her intentions are pure. Curiously, at this point, I'd say Lara Night was somewhere biting her lip to avoid getting too involved in matters beyond her control. She would honestly tell CSFB! that she believes in his ideal, but maybe this isn't the right time. That maybe he should work toward it instead of pushing it all at once. | ||
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Subject: Short change [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 04:30:17 pm EDT (Viewed 7 times) | |
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Quote: I was sure Hodgekiss would react more angrily when CSFB! mentioned Anna. That's got to be a major thorn in the military's side.As I was saying to Vizh, the challenge with this story is graduating Hodgekiss' confrontations. The danger is that otherwise the tale degenerates into a series of angry reactions which don't really add much to the overall narrative. Quote: When I read Sonic Boom I thought of the guy from the movie Sky High - the gym teacher that yelled "Siiiidekick!" (it's a common super-type name, but it's funny anyhow).Sonic Boom is an old adversary of Ham-Boy's from L!'s own stories. Quote: I'm going to have to post the first part of Mysteries of Faite in the next 24 hours, even if it overlaps with the other story, because otherwise my next suggestion won't make much sense: Icy could have also talked to Faite (it would make more sense after the post, because presumably now she's too difficult to find). Maybe Faite could help, maybe not, but she has the opposite priority than the Hooded Hood - she would be more intent on making Icy believe that changing things would only make them worse, and she would create visual aids to drive home the point.You may wish to wait for how this plot with the Hood pans out since it may make a difference to other stories about it. Quote: Originally Faite's "return" was supposed to coincide with the forces of Order and Chaos going out of balance, so this seems like as good a time as any. She also seems to be just in time to reign in the Hooded Hood just a bit, just when he's at his most diabolical (she would probably start by warning him that his agenda is upsetting a balance he so carefully created).As the Word said here, the Hood is making his move. As usual, that's a carefully considered suite of ploys. And there are particular and as-yet-unrevealed reasons why he's in a somewhat uncompromising mood, even beyond having to sacrifice Zdenka recently. Quote: If Goldeneyed were to ask Liu Xi whether he exists, and explain how, her only response would be "You exist, so shut up."G-Eyed and Liu Xi share a similar problem just now of being anomalies without poperly rooted timeline histories. But that's a subplot for another issue. Quote: I figured Amber would end up resigning. Maybe that would end up hurting CSFB!'s feelings enough to change his mind a bit. If that doesn't work, maybe Liu Xi cursing at him about destroying everything he loves might help, since he knows her intentions are pure.Amber's resignation has triggered his conversation with his dead girlfriend Izzy, so now his plot can move forward. Quote: Curiously, at this point, I'd say Lara Night was somewhere biting her lip to avoid getting too involved in matters beyond her control. She would honestly tell CSFB! that she believes in his ideal, but maybe this isn't the right time. That maybe he should work toward it instead of pushing it all at once.I take it as a good sign regarding whether the story's engaging readers that so many people are itching to have their characters help out CSFB! | ||
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Subject: We established this method a long time ago. [Re: Hatman] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 04:46:18 pm EDT (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: I'm glad I "perverted the gift"; I'm not sure what the calorie count is on brains, but either way I'll gladly pass on finding out. Not only has Hatty's method been different from most Serious Matter wielders but his power-set is different too. Quote: CSFB! really is digging himself into a hole with his actions and reactions. Really he's learning that being in the big chair means adjusting your behavior, as Hawkeye learned when he became a team leader with the Avengers. It's not entirely Dream's fault. He pushed, the adversaries pushed back harder. Quote: I'm curious to see if we get Amber back after all of this or if we end up with a new LL liaison. Who would you suggest for the job? Quote: Nice to see Hatman using his connections to get the Foundation up and running. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles the League of Losers without his powers, or if he even can.I spent a long drive yesterday trying to plot that one. We'll see how good it turns out when I get to write it. Quote: Poor Icy. Things will not end well for him I'm sure.He does seem to be garnering a good deal of sympathy. Quote: I liked how Ham-Boy easily took down the inexperienced MLA speedster. Experience goes a long way in the superpowers game, and Ham-Boy proved it.HB is one of only two legitimate graduates so far from the Junior LL programme (Glory's the other). He's ready for bigger things. Quote: I keep thinking I should write a tie-in with Hatman sitting down to talk with CSFB! about what he's doing but I don't think it would work for story purposes at the moment; Hatman really does need to be absent for CSFB! to continue on the path he's set for the Legion.Things will come to a head in the next section. | ||
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Subject: Re: Short change [Re: HH] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 04:46:48 pm EDT (Viewed 731 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0.05 points) Quote: As I was saying to Vizh, the challenge with this story is graduating Hodgekiss' confrontations. The danger is that otherwise the tale degenerates into a series of angry reactions which don't really add much to the overall narrative.I meant that Hodgekiss didn't seem to react at all to Anna's name. Like either he ignored it on purpose because he knew CSFB! was trying to irritate him, or he didn't care. Quote: You may wish to wait for how this plot with the Hood pans out since it may make a difference to other stories about it.I posted it anyway - not to mess up the Hooded Hood's plot, but because after reading it I realized a large portion of the first chapter of Mysteries of Faite started in the recent past (ending right around the time Anna, Lara, Chiaki, and Liu Xi returned home). Quote: As the Word said here, the Hood is making his move. As usual, that's a carefully considered suite of ploys. And there are particular and as-yet-unrevealed reasons why he's in a somewhat uncompromising mood, even beyond having to sacrifice Zdenka recently.For that, Faite might remind him to remember who his allies are, or at the very least, who his enemies aren't. She doesn't rely on threats - she tries to appeal to his intelligence. Quote: G-Eyed and Liu Xi share a similar problem just now of being anomalies without poperly rooted timeline histories.The point was that Liu Xi has heard it before and doesn't really worry about it. Quote: Amber's resignation has triggered his conversation with his dead girlfriend Izzy, so now his plot can move forward.I didn't know she was dead. That kind of changes things, because the dead can be manipulated. Quote: I take it as a good sign regarding whether the story's engaging readers that so many people are itching to have their characters help out CSFB!Like I said, Lara is biting her tongue because she's afraid of what telling the truth will cause. She knows just how dangerous CSFB! can become if he's out-of-sorts enough to believe Lara is saying that because she's turning against him, or if he believes all his friends are. | ||
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Subject: It might turn out to be, depending on how long the final segment runs. [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 04:47:28 pm EDT (Viewed 6 times) | |
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Quote: Good stuff as things become further unraveled, and I'm not entirely sure how it's all going to be put back together again. Luckily, the Hood seems to know, so I'm sure it will all work out for the best...Is there really any problem that the Legion's got right now that can't be solved with a hug? Quote: So Citizen Z seems a lock for the new line-up. I assume the Hood feels that it's a good thing that she doesn't want to destroy the Legion for a variety of reasons I couldn't even guess at. I suppose she'd pass the Magweed test at the very least. Plus, I imagine it's just plain meaner for her to help destroy the team when it's not what she wants to do.All of the above; but our next section offers rather more information that might help you to identify and sympathise with Laurie once more. Heh. Quote: Hodgekiss really does need to have his butt handed to him. I'm not sure exactly how that's likely to happen though... He can certainly give as good as he gets in any shouting match across a desk. Dream got downright unnerving at the end of that scene.The Hood did mention that he was working on creating a great new villain. As for Hodgekiss, he's still got an argument or two to go yet. Quote: Loved the confrontation between the MLF and Hamboy, and the reason why the mighty man of meat had no problem stopping the new mutate speedster. Interesting that his cousin seems to have gotten the exact powers that Josh had... I do wonder if Hamboy kept the date for him.There's more to R.J. that we'll need to return to in an issue or two's time. Quote: Not sure what the Hood is up to yet with Clockwatcher...He's assembling fragments of Jarvisite. Maybe it's his new hobby. Quote: You're going to be mean to Icy, and that's not nice. I don't see him chickening out, but I also don't want him disappearing, so I'm not sure what to expect here. He should have listened to Denial though.He really should. Quote: Hatman certainly mastered the art of making a difference without any powers in no time flat. I'm ready to start the "Hatman for President" campaign. Of course, him being Canadian is a bit of a hang up... maybe we can convince people he's just from Minnesota?That's not in Canada? Quote: So it looks like Nats, Dancer, Icy and Amber are out, and Citizen Z and Hallie are in, at least at the current moment. I'm thinking Izzy will have a profound effect on the direction of things in the rest of this chapter, however... At least I hope so.I'm hoping to surprise and shock people some more before we're done. The very next section might have some interesting developments that will affect any future line-up. Quote: Looking forward to more on the mysteries of Garrick, and finding out who the new Champion of Order is as well!The new champion is a character who's appeared before in Untold Tales. Any ideas? | ||
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Subject: Very long and even better. [Re: The Hooded Hood notes for the record that this chapter used to be called "All Change" - that should make sense of the message thread] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 05:04:04 pm EDT (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Subject: Doesn't change the ick factor though [Re: HH] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 05:29:41 pm EDT (Viewed 725 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: I'm glad I "perverted the gift"; I'm not sure what the calorie count is on brains, but either way I'll gladly pass on finding out. Quote: Not only has Hatty's method been different from most Serious Matter wielders but his power-set is different too.Have you explored why this is before? I can't remember. If not, the whole "Champion of Balance" thing I introduced with Jabin Sir would work. Quote: Quote: CSFB! really is digging himself into a hole with his actions and reactions. Really he's learning that being in the big chair means adjusting your behavior, as Hawkeye learned when he became a team leader with the Avengers. Quote: It's not entirely Dream's fault. He pushed, the adversaries pushed back harder. His initial thrust was a little too enthusiastic though. Quote: Quote: I'm curious to see if we get Amber back after all of this or if we end up with a new LL liaison. Quote: Who would you suggest for the job?If Hatman remained depowered and wasn't running the Foundation I think he'd be a logical fit. I also think you could put Asil in that role (where is she these days anyway?), or even Mr. Epitome if he was available. From a story-telling potential point of view, I think there could be some to be had with Miss Framlicker in the role. If Al blew up the EEE headquarters and she needed something to do while it was rebuilt, it could work. Or Dan Drury could be ousted from SPUD by the seemingly-reformed Blackbird,who converts SPUD into TATER with the government-sponsored Lair Legion as it's point team, but gets appointed to the LL liaison role by the UN. Or just give it to Visionary. Quote: Quote: Nice to see Hatman using his connections to get the Foundation up and running. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles the League of Losers without his powers, or if he even can.Quote: I spent a long drive yesterday trying to plot that one. We'll see how good it turns out when I get to write it. I'm sure it will be excellent. Quote: Quote: Poor Icy. Things will not end well for him I'm sure.Quote: He does seem to be garnering a good deal of sympathy.The character isn't one of my favourites I admit but it is actually a little refreshing to have such a naive character running around, considering the experience of most of the cast. Quote: Quote: I liked how Ham-Boy easily took down the inexperienced MLA speedster. Experience goes a long way in the superpowers game, and Ham-Boy proved it.Quote: HB is one of only two legitimate graduates so far from the Junior LL programme (Glory's the other). He's ready for bigger things.If "Villain Whomping" had been worth more of his final grade I think Harlagaz might have made it. His poor marks in "Minimizing Property Damage" hurt too. Quote: Quote: I keep thinking I should write a tie-in with Hatman sitting down to talk with CSFB! about what he's doing but I don't think it would work for story purposes at the moment; Hatman really does need to be absent for CSFB! to continue on the path he's set for the Legion.Quote: Things will come to a head in the next section.By next section you mean sometime in the next 3 chapters? Your sections tend to be larger than most of my series'. ~Hat~ | ||
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Subject: Interesting... [Re: The Hooded Hood notes for the record that this chapter used to be called "All Change" - that should make sense of the message thread] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 10:16:32 pm EDT (Viewed 815 times) | |
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Nicely done. Things I look forward to reading where they go: Goldeneyed subplot, The Hooded Hood's Plans & Ham-Boy's "date". A few things that I think might need to be changed/altered: - Goth Haven is not Ham-Boy's "home town". That is Piney Oaks, Iowa & most like will always be. HB just lives & works in Goth Haven for the moment. It's sort of right of past for the men of the Harris family. Fred is the 3rd known generation to do so. - You added a few letters to Janet's codename: It's Inter-Planet Janet & not Interplanetary Janet. - HB mentioning he's fought Sonic Boom a number of times: not sure about this one. Yes, both people live in the same city & might have met but fighting, not sure bout that one. Now they might of fought the first time they met as per Super Hero convention but them fighting more them once seems a bit off. The comment makes it sound like Sonic Boom is a villain which he's not. He's a Super Hero, one who's more into having a rocking party then saving the World but a Super Hero none the less. Also, I don't see HB & SB running into each other, pun only kind of intended. I don't see them having many contacts/friends in common. - How HB's powers are shown: HB makes some Offal appear & also hits MLA with a wall of dead Cows. This is a bit out of HB's power range. The Mince is maybe stretching it a bit but I'm letting it pass since it passing under how I've generally explained his powers. But the Offal & Cow Carcasses are beyond that. HB's power of making meat appear applies to "processed" meat. The dead body of Cows has not be processed, it's just a dead animal. Now make the Cow into something: steak, hamburger patties, roast beef, etc. then Ham-Boy can make it appear. The offal being just the organ, he can't produce it. HB might be able to make Hagis appear which is organs but has been cooked/processed. Ham-Boy make pretty much what ever kind of luncheon meat you want appear, meat that needed to be processed to even exist. | ||
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Subject: No. [Re: HH] Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 at 10:28:32 pm EDT (Viewed 695 times) | |
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Quote: Sonic Boom is an old adversary of Ham-Boy's from L!'s own stories.NO! Well, Yes. Sonic Boom is a character of my own creation from my own stories but No to who this says he is. Sonic Boom is a supporting cast member of the Semi-Transparent Lad series. Most of his story appearances have pretty much been at the Gulp 'N Go, the convenience store when Ben Hermes (STL) works/worked. Pretty much every appearance he was seen buying lots of beer for a party he was throwing. I'm not sure where the whole "adversary of Ham-Boy" came from since I've never had them meet & I don't know of any other story where they have met. | ||
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Subject: Re: No. [Re: L!] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 01:40:50 am EDT (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Subject: Re: Interesting... [Re: L!] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 01:45:09 am EDT (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: Nicely done.Quote: Things I look forward to reading where they go: Goldeneyed subplot, The Hooded Hood's Plans & Ham-Boy's "date".I wasn't actually going to do any more on HB's date. I think we'll leave it to the imagination unless you want to do a tie-in. Quote: A few things that I think might need to be changed/altered:I'll take a look at this when I get the chance. | ||
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Subject: So I can sleep now? [Re: Rhiannon] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 01:46:38 am EDT | |
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Subject: Sometimes justice requires sacrifice [Re: Hatman] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 02:00:32 am EDT (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm glad I "perverted the gift"; I'm not sure what the calorie count is on brains, but either way I'll gladly pass on finding out. Quote: Quote: Not only has Hatty's method been different from most Serious Matter wielders but his power-set is different too.Quote: Have you explored why this is before? I can't remember. If not, the whole "Champion of Balance" thing I introduced with Jabin Sir would work.Remind me about that. I don't recall how much we went into why Hatty's different. It's partly his character - maybe because he's the first Canadian champion of Order - but there could be more to it; or else Hatty's got it right and all these others are misusing the gift. We'll probably look at this in more detail sometime since it's now become quite topical. Quote: Quote: It's not entirely Dream's fault. He pushed, the adversaries pushed back harder. Quote: His initial thrust was a little too enthusiastic though.You've just described CrazySugarFreakBoy! Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm curious to see if we get Amber back after all of this or if we end up with a new LL liaison. Quote: Quote: Who would you suggest for the job?Quote: If Hatman remained depowered and wasn't running the Foundation I think he'd be a logical fit. I also think you could put Asil in that role (where is she these days anyway?), or even Mr. Epitome if he was available.Garrick needs employment. Quote: From a story-telling potential point of view, I think there could be some to be had with Miss Framlicker in the role. If Al blew up the EEE headquarters and she needed something to do while it was rebuilt, it could work.The liaison's role has traditionally required diplomacy. Quote: Or Dan Drury could be ousted from SPUD by the seemingly-reformed Blackbird,who converts SPUD into TATER with the government-sponsored Lair Legion as it's point team, but gets appointed to the LL liaison role by the UN.Noted. Quote: Or just give it to Visionary.Hasn't he got enough jobs yet? Quote: Quote: Quote: Nice to see Hatman using his connections to get the Foundation up and running. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles the League of Losers without his powers, or if he even can.Quote: Quote: I spent a long drive yesterday trying to plot that one. We'll see how good it turns out when I get to write it. Quote: I'm sure it will be excellent.I liked the ending but I was a bit fuzzy about the start. I need to get Jay into the fight but he can't know about it in advance or he'd have called in help. On the other hand the Losers would probably begin their attack with a massive body count which doesn't really fit the thrust of Hatty's arc right now. I need to ponder more. Quote: Quote: Quote: Poor Icy. Things will not end well for him I'm sure.Quote: Quote: He does seem to be garnering a good deal of sympathy.Quote: The character isn't one of my favourites I admit but it is actually a little refreshing to have such a naive character running around, considering the experience of most of the cast.It's fun having a cast member who makes Yo look worldly. Quote: Quote: Quote: I liked how Ham-Boy easily took down the inexperienced MLA speedster. Experience goes a long way in the superpowers game, and Ham-Boy proved it.Quote: Quote: HB is one of only two legitimate graduates so far from the Junior LL programme (Glory's the other). He's ready for bigger things.Quote: If "Villain Whomping" had been worth more of his final grade I think Harlagaz might have made it. His poor marks in "Minimizing Property Damage" hurt too.He completely blew the Negotiating With the Gloating Enemy section of the paper. Quote: Quote: Things will come to a head in the next section.Quote: By next section you mean sometime in the next 3 chapters? Your sections tend to be larger than most of my series'.Yes, I still fail to properly estimate the length of my plots. But in my mind there's one more section. Originally I'd intended the events of #337-342 to all be a single issue. | ||
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Subject: Re: Short change [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 02:08:15 am EDT (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: As I was saying to Vizh, the challenge with this story is graduating Hodgekiss' confrontations. The danger is that otherwise the tale degenerates into a series of angry reactions which don't really add much to the overall narrative.Quote: I meant that Hodgekiss didn't seem to react at all to Anna's name. Like either he ignored it on purpose because he knew CSFB! was trying to irritate him, or he didn't care.He's aware of the bigger picture, so he knows that there are other projects with better success rates. It's not his department getting canned. Quote: Quote: You may wish to wait for how this plot with the Hood pans out since it may make a difference to other stories about it.Quote: I posted it anyway - not to mess up the Hooded Hood's plot, but because after reading it I realized a large portion of the first chapter of Mysteries of Faite started in the recent past (ending right around the time Anna, Lara, Chiaki, and Liu Xi returned home).I've promised myself that I'll allow myself read it when I've got 4000 words of report written. Quote: Quote: As the Word said here, the Hood is making his move. As usual, that's a carefully considered suite of ploys. And there are particular and as-yet-unrevealed reasons why he's in a somewhat uncompromising mood, even beyond having to sacrifice Zdenka recently.Quote: For that, Faite might remind him to remember who his allies are, or at the very least, who his enemies aren't. She doesn't rely on threats - she tries to appeal to his intelligence.For a while the Hood's been quite a passive force in the Parodyverse, even helping out against the Parody Master and the Carnifex. Now he's back to being the big bad, and a different kind of threat to the uber-power of some other menaces. The Hood can be just as dangerous without having ultimate power. I need to remind people of that. Quote: Quote: G-Eyed and Liu Xi share a similar problem just now of being anomalies without poperly rooted timeline histories.Quote: The point was that Liu Xi has heard it before and doesn't really worry about it.Wait until she starts to fade out; but that's a story for another day. Quote: Quote: Amber's resignation has triggered his conversation with his dead girlfriend Izzy, so now his plot can move forward.Quote: I didn't know she was dead. That kind of changes things, because the dead can be manipulated.Izzy Shapiro was Dream's first girlfriend back before he became CSFB! She died of a congenital heart condition. After Dream got his powers she returned either as a ghost or as a left-brain manifestation. She's not been around much since CSFB! married April Apple, although she has popped up doing post-mortem counselling work for a few people. Quote: Like I said, Lara is biting her tongue because she's afraid of what telling the truth will cause. She knows just how dangerous CSFB! can become if he's out-of-sorts enough to believe Lara is saying that because she's turning against him, or if he believes all his friends are.The Hood is working on turning CSFB! into an excellent and dangerous supervillain. Peter Pan becomes Captain Hook. | ||
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Subject: Re: Short change [Re: HH] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 02:40:12 am EDT (Viewed 764 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0 points) Quote: He's aware of the bigger picture, so he knows that there are other projects with better success rates. It's not his department getting canned.Another thing I thought of is Anna was created to reduce human casualties in a fight against superpowered beings - she can take on a lot by herself without soldiers getting hurt. Hodgekiss might have other priorities. Quote: I've promised myself that I'll allow myself read it when I've got 4000 words of report written.I guess I should be flattered that my new story is a reward. Quote: For a while the Hood's been quite a passive force in the Parodyverse, even helping out against the Parody Master and the Carnifex. Now he's back to being the big bad, and a different kind of threat to the uber-power of some other menaces. The Hood can be just as dangerous without having ultimate power. I need to remind people of that.I believe I joked a few times that the Psychic Samurai is likely capable of taking over the Parodyverse with no superpowers whatsoever if she really put her mind to it and simply stayed one step ahead of everyone. Quote: Wait until she starts to fade out; but that's a story for another day.Unlike Icy she might ask Faite for help first (if she can). Quote: Izzy Shapiro was Dream's first girlfriend back before he became CSFB! She died of a congenital heart condition. After Dream got his powers she returned either as a ghost or as a left-brain manifestation. She's not been around much since CSFB! married April Apple, although she has popped up doing post-mortem counselling work for a few people.It still could be a manipulation. Quote: Quote: Like I said, Lara is biting her tongue because she's afraid of what telling the truth will cause. She knows just how dangerous CSFB! can become if he's out-of-sorts enough to believe Lara is saying that because she's turning against him, or if he believes all his friends are.Quote: The Hood is working on turning CSFB! into an excellent and dangerous supervillain. Peter Pan becomes Captain Hook.Lara would probably scold the Hooded Hood for that, but when he's behaving like this he probably makes sure she can't find him at the asylum. | ||
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Subject: And Pepto Bismal [Re: HH] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 11:36:55 am EDT (Viewed 773 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm glad I "perverted the gift"; I'm not sure what the calorie count is on brains, but either way I'll gladly pass on finding out. Quote: Quote: Not only has Hatty's method been different from most Serious Matter wielders but his power-set is different too.Quote: Quote: Have you explored why this is before? I can't remember. If not, the whole "Champion of Balance" thing I introduced with Jabin Sir would work.Quote: Remind me about that.I wake up to find myself floating in a void, an all-encompassing emptiness. I’m back in my costume, and there’s no sign of CrazySugarFreakBoy’!’s Sillysuit anywhere. That’s when I notice that I’m whole, I am no longer divided. “That would be my doing,†spoke a voice. I try to identify where it’s coming from, but it seems to come from everywhere. “Who are you? Show yourself!†I demand. Already I’m trying to figure out what the Hooded Hood’s game is. What benefit does he get from undoing my splitting into Magistratus and CHaoticCappedCrusader? “I’m sure the Hooded Hood would benefit from the planet not being destroyed, but his hand is not at work here,†says the voice. Okay, clearly he can read my thoughts. “Yes, I can.†Well then read this. I don’t like being toyed with. Show yourself. A form coalesces in front of me, forming into a man. He has pink skin, and has no hair on his head. He’s wearing what looks almost like a version of my costume. He wears a white shirt with the same yellow diamond adorning my chest. His pants are blue and baggy, ending just below his knees. He wears a maroon cape, with a belt that looks oddly familiar. What is perhaps the most disconcerting about this being forming from nothing before me is he has no nose or mouth. “I have long since passed the need to breathe, eat, or speak the way you do,†the being explained. “Then how are you talking?†“Speech is not limited to the simply way you Terrans have chosen to do so.†“If this is going to become a primitive human bashing session, I’ll warn you now I’m not in the mood." “It is not. Please, let me introduce myself. My name is Jabin Sirr. I was the first to wield the Serious Matter.†This just went even more cosmic on me. Cosmic gives me headaches. And the resulting paperwork is a bear. “Eons ago, the Lords of Order deemed it necessary to infuse agents of our universe with the Serious Matter, to act as champions of their cause. I was the first such being.†“So why would you pull me out of their and allow the Chaos side of me to merge with my Order half? I would think the Lords of Order would want me to remain pure, as I was.†“I, like you, am unique amongst the bearers of the Serious Matter. Unlike other bearers, we retain an important balance.†Jabin points to the diamond we wear on our chests. “The vertical points represent Order and Chaos. The horizontal represent Justice and Vengeance. We two are, as I said, unique, as we represent the Balance, between the four.†Jabin touches the center of the diamond as he says this. “But I was told I was never meant to be a bearer of the Serious Matter. That Chaos had managed to divert the power to me to spite Order.†“That was not Chaos’ doing. It was mine.†“But why?†“I was the first bearer of the Serious Matter, and as such the Lords of Order had not yet perfected the process of imbuing a physical being with the power. Future bearers would be as Order desired, loyal and completely devoted to the purging of Chaos from the cosmos. “Though the Lords of Order have prevented me from directly interacting with the physical universe, my power is not inconsiderable after wielding the Serious Matter for so long. I was able to ensure that the Serious Matter destined for the Word’s daughter instead reached you, a being like myself, who believes in the Balance.†“If you still maintain some sort of influence, why did you allow the Word to take control of me like that? Who knows who could have been killed when Magistratus and CHaoticCappedCrusader fought?†“Actually, your entire planet was destroyed. You are the only survivor.†“What?! How could you let this happen?!†“I had to try and let things sort themselves out on their own. Every time I exert my power I risk the Lords of Order finding me. They wish nothing more than my destruction at this point. But you have a pivotal role to play, Hatman, and I could not allow you and your planet to be destroyed.†“But you said it already has been!†“I will send you back before that occurs. I will not be able to prevent the creation of Magistratus and CHaoticCappedCrusader, as the Lords of Order and Chaos would not easily lose such champions. However, I shall pass my Serious Matter powers to you, in your chaos form, that you may battle Magistratus. I tried to aid you in your first battle by quelling the Chaotic urges within you, but clearly that was not enough.†“But Serious Matter can’t be transferred, can it?†“Already I can feel the Lords of Order searching for me. I will bequeath my power to you, and pass on to the next life. I will rest easy knowing that a Champion of the Balance such as yourself remains to fight for our cause.†“But I have so many questions about the Serious Matter, about my powers.†I look down at the Hatility Belt around my waist. “About the Belt.†“Ah yes, the Belt.†“I felt so lost without it, like a part of myself was missing.†“I created the Belt many ages ago. It was a focus for my power, as I was too inexperienced to wield it as I do now. I used it to pull whatever object I may have required. As time passed, I learned to get by without it. But that was a long time, many years past the average human lifespan.†“So you sent me the Belt after I received my powers, didn’t you?†“That I did. It is not a tool of Order, but rather a tool of the Balance. You have reached the stage where the Belt has bonded with you. No one but you may wield it, until you pass it along to another Champion of Balance, as I gave it to you those years ago.†Jabin shuddered, and then reoriented his gaze on me with a determined stare. “I must send you back now, the Lords of Order are nearly here.†“But what’s to stop them from simply destroying me once you’re gone?†“The Lords of Order and Chaos cannot act directly in the physical world. It is true that they will send champions after you, such as the Word, but you are safe from their direct power. Now then, give me your hands.†I hold out my hands, and Jabin takes them in his. He then touches his forehead to mine, and I feel a surge of power flow through me. Then Jabin Sirr, the first Champion of Balance, is gone, and I find myself back on Earth, facing down Magistratus, the rest of my hastily assembled Abandoned Legion sprawled out on the ground. I reach into my Belt to see if it worked, if I have my Serious Matter powers back, and even though Magistratus stands before me, I touch the familiar brim of my Steelers cap. “Let’s finish this.†Quote: I don't recall how much we went into why Hatty's different. It's partly his character - maybe because he's the first Canadian champion of Order - but there could be more to it; or else Hatty's got it right and all these others are misusing the gift.I think this above snippet from Quest For Completion #13 can work as an explanation. Quote: We'll probably look at this in more detail sometime since it's now become quite topical.Very true. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm curious to see if we get Amber back after all of this or if we end up with a new LL liaison. Quote: Quote: Who would you suggest for the job?Quote: Quote: If Hatman remained depowered and wasn't running the Foundation I think he'd be a logical fit. I also think you could put Asil in that role (where is she these days anyway?), or even Mr. Epitome if he was available.Quote: Garrick needs employment.It doesn't feel like a big change to put Garrick as the LL liaison since he's been involved with the team alot, good and bad, but it also has potential to develop Garrick's character more. Quote: Quote: From a story-telling potential point of view, I think there could be some to be had with Miss Framlicker in the role. If Al blew up the EEE headquarters and she needed something to do while it was rebuilt, it could work.Quote: The liaison's role has traditionally required diplomacy.And when have the LL done anything traditionally? Quote: Quote: Or Dan Drury could be ousted from SPUD by the seemingly-reformed Blackbird,who converts SPUD into TATER with the government-sponsored Lair Legion as it's point team, but gets appointed to the LL liaison role by the UN.Quote: Noted.Quote: Quote: Or just give it to Visionary.Quote: Hasn't he got enough jobs yet?Kerry's moved out, so he'd have a lot more free time now since he wouldn't need to have fire drills thrice daily. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Nice to see Hatman using his connections to get the Foundation up and running. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles the League of Losers without his powers, or if he even can.Quote: Quote: I spent a long drive yesterday trying to plot that one. We'll see how good it turns out when I get to write it. Quote: Quote: I'm sure it will be excellent.Quote: I liked the ending but I was a bit fuzzy about the start. I need to get Jay into the fight but he can't know about it in advance or he'd have called in help. On the other hand the Losers would probably begin their attack with a massive body count which doesn't really fit the thrust of Hatty's arc right now. I need to ponder more.Couple of options I'd think. A. Someone mentions to Judge there's a suspicious group hanging about, Hatman says he'll check it out himself since he needs to stretch his legs anyway, and recognizes them (or they launch their attack directly at Hatman). B. Since the Foundation is in a poorer section of GMY there is no cell service. When Hatman attempts to use his Communicard, he can't get through because the team is still being bombarded by angry phone calls and e-mails over CSFB!'s handling of current events. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Poor Icy. Things will not end well for him I'm sure.Quote: Quote: He does seem to be garnering a good deal of sympathy.Quote: Quote: The character isn't one of my favourites I admit but it is actually a little refreshing to have such a naive character running around, considering the experience of most of the cast.Quote: It's fun having a cast member who makes Yo look worldly.Yo isn't naive though, s/he just chooses to look on the bright side of things. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I liked how Ham-Boy easily took down the inexperienced MLA speedster. Experience goes a long way in the superpowers game, and Ham-Boy proved it.Quote: Quote: HB is one of only two legitimate graduates so far from the Junior LL programme (Glory's the other). He's ready for bigger things.Quote: Quote: If "Villain Whomping" had been worth more of his final grade I think Harlagaz might have made it. His poor marks in "Minimizing Property Damage" hurt too.Quote: He completely blew the Negotiating With the Gloating Enemy section of the paper.Probably because he tore up the paper and hurled his desk at the exam proctor. ~Hat~ | ||
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Subject: Re: Short change [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 12:29:52 pm EDT (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: He's aware of the bigger picture, so he knows that there are other projects with better success rates. It's not his department getting canned.Quote: Another thing I thought of is Anna was created to reduce human casualties in a fight against superpowered beings - she can take on a lot by herself without soldiers getting hurt. Hodgekiss might have other priorities.He's got some specific orders. Quote: Quote: I've promised myself that I'll allow myself read it when I've got 4000 words of report written.Quote: I guess I should be flattered that my new story is a reward.I'm now at about 2800 words. The day's been absolutely full of interruptions - and I've got a 6pm meeting to attend next. Quote: Quote: For a while the Hood's been quite a passive force in the Parodyverse, even helping out against the Parody Master and the Carnifex. Now he's back to being the big bad, and a different kind of threat to the uber-power of some other menaces. The Hood can be just as dangerous without having ultimate power. I need to remind people of that.Quote: I believe I joked a few times that the Psychic Samurai is likely capable of taking over the Parodyverse with no superpowers whatsoever if she really put her mind to it and simply stayed one step ahead of everyone.The Hood's perspective is that there's no point in taking over the Parodyverse. Whenever he's done that it's always been a means to an end. Quote: Quote: Wait until she starts to fade out; but that's a story for another day.Quote: Unlike Icy she might ask Faite for help first (if she can).There's a risk there. What if Faite, with her much greater persepctive, decides that deleting Liu Xi or G-Eyed is the lesser price to pay to deal with consequences of fractured timelines? Quote: Quote: The Hood is working on turning CSFB! into an excellent and dangerous supervillain. Peter Pan becomes Captain Hook.Quote: Lara would probably scold the Hooded Hood for that, but when he's behaving like this he probably makes sure she can't find him at the asylum.You can pretty much guarantee that almost anyone who finds the Hood does so because he wants them to, and because he expects some eventual advantage out of it. | ||
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Subject: You're saying Hatman wouldn't devous some brains to save the Parodyverse? [Re: Hatman] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 12:31:54 pm EDT (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Subject: For devous read devour. [Re: HH] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 12:35:23 pm EDT (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Re: Short change [Re: HH] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 01:43:59 pm EDT (Viewed 734 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0 points) Quote: He's got some specific orders.What's funny is, he's instinctively promoting himself as the source of the problem because he's so loud and aggressive, so CSFB! and the Lair Legion is reacting to that. They have very little hierarchal organization experience. Yuki might figure out the orders are coming from somewhere, but she works her way up the chain through intimidation. One person with lots of hierarchal organization experience might feel the opposite way: The Psychic Samurai would interpret Hodgekiss' blustery, aggressive rhetoric as meaning he's a noisy cog in a big machine, and worth only ignoring even as he demands attention. She would want to know how far up his orders go instead, and would want to talk directly to whoever is in charge. Though preventing that right now is the fact that Chiaki doesn't feel like it's any of her business. If she speaks on behalf of the Lair Legion she's placing herself at considerable risk, and CSFB! might not even accept anything she agrees to. Quote: I'm now at about 2800 words. The day's been absolutely full of interruptions - and I've got a 6pm meeting to attend next.I hate last-minute writer's block. Quote: Quote: I believe I joked a few times that the Psychic Samurai is likely capable of taking over the Parodyverse with no superpowers whatsoever if she really put her mind to it and simply stayed one step ahead of everyone.Quote: The Hood's perspective is that there's no point in taking over the Parodyverse. Whenever he's done that it's always been a means to an end.You don't see Chiaki trying to take it over, either. She doesn't really see a point. Quote: There's a risk there. What if Faite, with her much greater persepctive, decides that deleting Liu Xi or G-Eyed is the lesser price to pay to deal with consequences of fractured timelines?I'm making that a much more difficult decision for Faite now that she's bonding with everyone somewhat. She might take more time to research a workaround. Quote: You can pretty much guarantee that almost anyone who finds the Hood does so because he wants them to, and because he expects some eventual advantage out of it.That's exactly what I mean - the Hood is busy, and doesn't have time to listen to Lara talk to him. | ||
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Subject: How important do you feel chapter breaks are? [Re: HH intended this to all be one chapter, really] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 02:18:05 pm EDT (Viewed 792 times) | |
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Personally, I always like chapter breaks... even when they're intentionally manipulative and make sure to end on a point where you desperately want to know what happens next. Still, some writers don't bother with them at all... and it's hard to say what's an appropriate chapter length in the Parodyverse. I used to think 5 pages in word was pushing it in the early years of the board... now I look back and those early chapters seem much too slight. It probably doesn't help that I've largely abandoned Word altogether after being told I was supposed to buy a new copy 2 years after last purchasing it, because I needed to replace my computer. Combined with the huge headaches of using it for work documents (where people always wanted artwork included along with game documentation, and Word is a ***** to wrangle text and photos together) I just up and dropped it. Started using Google's online word processor for my PV writing... which is nice, since it's all stored online and accessible from any computer that way. With my recent purchase of an Ipad, I got apple's word processor, which would have made the documents I had to put together for work so easy to do that I really wanted to strangle Bill Gates. I've used a lot of document layout programs to combine text and photos, and I've never come across one that was easier and gave such good results. Now if only the damn thing was more comfortable to type on... Quote: Is there really any problem that the Legion's got right now that can't be solved with a hug? I suppose it would depend on who was doing the hugging. Tandi is a big hugger, as I recall... I could get behind that. Icy probably liked the idea of hugs, but the reality was likely less pleasant with him. Quote: Quote:So Citizen Z seems a lock for the new line-up. I assume the Hood feels that it's a good thing that she doesn't want to destroy the Legion for a variety of reasons I couldn't even guess at. I suppose she'd pass the Magweed test at the very least. Plus, I imagine it's just plain meaner for her to help destroy the team when it's not what she wants to do. All of the above; but our next section offers rather more information that might help you to identify and sympathise with Laurie once more. Heh. What are you going to do to that poor girl now? In truth, however, I have trouble seeing her as Laurie now. Even she seems to feel a major disconnect to her past. I think that's probably a blessing for her, though, so I have my doubts it will last. I'm still curious to know what happened to Wangmundo. Not anxious for an answer... just curious. Quote: The Hood did mention that he was working on creating a great new villain. As for Hodgekiss, he's still got an argument or two to go yet. I think Dream has it in him to be a pain-in-the-ass antagonist, but I'm not sure he can be pushed all the way to flat out villainy (if that's who the Hood is referencing.) At least not a sustainable villain... although if he loses enough of his family, I suppose I could see him going out in one tragic, chaotic act. Quote: There's more to R.J. that we'll need to return to in an issue or two's time. I figured that you didn't get permission to create him just for that cameo. I'm looking forward to finding out what side of the law he ends up fighting on. He seems nice enough, but also antagonizing... Quote: He's assembling fragments of Jarvisite. Maybe it's his new hobby.Would this be related to the Jarvis-Cosmic? I wielded that once... So I speak from personal experience when I say that it's probably not a good idea to go messing around with that stuff. Quote: Quote:Hatman certainly mastered the art of making a difference without any powers in no time flat. I'm ready to start the "Hatman for President" campaign. Of course, him being Canadian is a bit of a hang up... maybe we can convince people he's just from Minnesota? That's not in Canada? We would have traded for Ontario, but they just wouldn't take it. And pro-wrestler Jesse "The Body" Ventura isn't even governor of the state any longer. Quote: I'm hoping to surprise and shock people some more before we're done. The very next section might have some interesting developments that will affect any future line-up. No doubt, but you could probably say that about any number of recent sections you've posted. I'm looking forward to seeing the final line up... I know a good number of them, and have an idea about many others thanks to the images I drew for you, but I'm not really convinced that I could predict the line-up with 100% accuracy at this point. Plus, with poster participation constantly in flux, I'm not sure what last minute changes might occur. I'm ultimately curious to see how big the line-up is, and what kind of power levels it has. Quote: The new champion is a character who's appeared before in Untold Tales. Any ideas?Well, if there's brain eating involved, then I do hope that it isn't Jay's alternate knight son Sir John de Jaboz. Rasputatious would probably enjoy the brain eating--nothing new for him there-- but I somehow don't think that's the direction you're going. Grace O' Mercy would be an interesting way to go, but I don't think that's in store for her... Yeah, I have no idea. As for who should take Amber's job if she won't come back: I say Beth Shellet worked on the current president's campaign from early on, and is rewarded with a job with the administration... Of course, I suspect you might already have different plans for Beth's return someday. | ||
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Subject: Re: How important do you feel chapter breaks are? [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 03:17:00 pm EDT (Viewed 692 times) | |
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Quote: I think Dream has it in him to be a pain-in-the-ass antagonist, but I'm not sure he can be pushed all the way to flat out villainy (if that's who the Hood is referencing.) At least not a sustainable villain... although if he loses enough of his family, I suppose I could see him going out in one tragic, chaotic act.While I agree Dream doesn't have it in him to be a long-term villain, almost every superhero has their "Dark Insert-Character-Name-Here" story arc, and I don't believe Dream has had his yet. ~Hat~ | ||
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Subject: But is it Change we can believe in? [Re: The Hooded Hood notes for the record that this chapter used to be called "All Change" - that should make sense of the message thread] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 08:48:11 pm EDT (Viewed 7 times) | |
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Another excellent episode. I liked the trips to Herringcarp. You did a nice job showing how unpleasant a fellow the Hooded Hood can be with his conversations with Amnesia and (especially) Icy. The fight between Ham Boy and MLA was well done. Who knew meat could be such an effective weapon? Hatty seems to be intruding on Vizh's niche as the man with the world's most dangerous rolodex, but since he can actually bust a few heads even without his powers, I'm guessing he won't use it with his showdown with the Frightsome Four. I'm at a loss as to who Garrick could be visiting. Or who the next LL liasion will be. Or who's due to become the next Champion of Order. But I'm definitely looking forward to finding out. | ||
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Subject: Re: Short change [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 09:05:50 pm EDT (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: He's got some specific orders.Quote: What's funny is, he's instinctively promoting himself as the source of the problem because he's so loud and aggressive, so CSFB! and the Lair Legion is reacting to that. They have very little hierarchal organization experience. Yuki might figure out the orders are coming from somewhere, but she works her way up the chain through intimidation.He's doing his job as he sees it, which is to stop the LL becoming a menace. Quote: One person with lots of hierarchal organization experience might feel the opposite way: The Psychic Samurai would interpret Hodgekiss' blustery, aggressive rhetoric as meaning he's a noisy cog in a big machine, and worth only ignoring even as he demands attention. She would want to know how far up his orders go instead, and would want to talk directly to whoever is in charge. We've never found out. There may not even be any one person. Quote: Though preventing that right now is the fact that Chiaki doesn't feel like it's any of her business. If she speaks on behalf of the Lair Legion she's placing herself at considerable risk, and CSFB! might not even accept anything she agrees to.Indeed. And of course the internal situation isn't well known outside the Mansion. Quote: Quote: I'm now at about 2800 words. The day's been absolutely full of interruptions - and I've got a 6pm meeting to attend next.Quote: I hate last-minute writer's block.I hate interpreting spreadsheets prepared by morons. Quote: Quote: You can pretty much guarantee that almost anyone who finds the Hood does so because he wants them to, and because he expects some eventual advantage out of it.Quote: That's exactly what I mean - the Hood is busy, and doesn't have time to listen to Lara talk to him.I'm sure he could find a use for a conversation with Lara after her meeting with Thugos. | ||
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Subject: I think they're important [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 09:29:48 pm EDT (Viewed 4 times) | |
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I'm a big believer in pacing stories. It can be done by language )"He sauntered his way down towards the pool" vs "He pelted to the pool"). It can be done with sentence structure. It can be done with paragraph breaks. On a macro-level it's done with section breaks and chapters. Section breaks usually but not always denote a change of scene, which by definition resets the readers attention. Chapter breaks best underline the conclusion of a chain of events, a theme, a significant plot point, or a cliffhanger. I know some people don't use them or feel they're intrusive. I think they add texture to the reading experience. Even chapter titles of header quotes or "in which..." summaries can shape the reader's experience. Why ignore a valuable tool just to be trendy? Quote: Personally, I always like chapter breaks... even when they're intentionally manipulative and make sure to end on a point where you desperately want to know what happens next. Still, some writers don't bother with them at all... and it's hard to say what's an appropriate chapter length in the Parodyverse. I used to think 5 pages in word was pushing it in the early years of the board... now I look back and those early chapters seem much too slight.I think the length of a story, or a chapter, should be determined by the content. In the current Untold tales story, for example, each chapter in the three(?)-issue arc reflects a progression in the story and a slight shift in tone. I also use issue breaks in Untold Tales as a pacing tool. Leaving a reader to wait for a day or a week with a situation at the back of their mind is a great way of setting up a punch for next time. it adds weight to any plot development. Quote: It probably doesn't help that I've largely abandoned Word altogether after being told I was supposed to buy a new copy 2 years after last purchasing it, because I needed to replace my computer. Combined with the huge headaches of using it for work documents (where people always wanted artwork included along with game documentation, and Word is a ***** to wrangle text and photos together) I just up and dropped it. Started using Google's online word processor for my PV writing... which is nice, since it's all stored online and accessible from any computer that way. I'm using Office 2000 which predates all the clever reporting home spyware and serves me very well, thanks. Quote: Is there really any problem that the Legion's got right now that can't be solved with a hug?Quote: I suppose it would depend on who was doing the hugging. Tandi is a big hugger, as I recall... I could get behind that. Icy probably liked the idea of hugs, but the reality was likely less pleasant with him.Possibly better than a Shoggoth hug, though. Quote: So Citizen Z seems a lock for the new line-up. I assume the Hood feels that it's a good thing that she doesn't want to destroy the Legion for a variety of reasons I couldn't even guess at. I suppose she'd pass the Magweed test at the very least. Plus, I imagine it's just plain meaner for her to help destroy the team when it's not what she wants to do.There is that' but the Hood rarely does anything for just one reason. Quote: All of the above; but our next section offers rather more information that might help you to identify and sympathise with Laurie once more. Heh.Quote: What are you going to do to that poor girl now? In truth, however, I have trouble seeing her as Laurie now. Even she seems to feel a major disconnect to her past. I think that's probably a blessing for her, though, so I have my doubts it will last.Maybe next time will help. Quote: I'm still curious to know what happened to Wangmundo. Not anxious for an answer... just curious.I feel responsible for getting him off the table. In due course I intend to get him back on. Quote: I think Dream has it in him to be a pain-in-the-ass antagonist, but I'm not sure he can be pushed all the way to flat out villainy (if that's who the Hood is referencing.) At least not a sustainable villain... although if he loses enough of his family, I suppose I could see him going out in one tragic, chaotic act.There's a fury in his that accentuates the destructive side of chaos. There's a word for what he'd become if his family suffered the kind of fate that Captain Black wreaked on Mumphrey's kin: Loki. Quote: There's more to R.J. that we'll need to return to in an issue or two's time.Quote: I figured that you didn't get permission to create him just for that cameo. I'm looking forward to finding out what side of the law he ends up fighting on. He seems nice enough, but also antagonizing...Noted. Quote: Quote: He's assembling fragments of Jarvisite. Maybe it's his new hobby.Quote: Would this be related to the Jarvis-Cosmic? I wielded that once... So I speak from personal experience when I say that it's probably not a good idea to go messing around with that stuff.It may well be. This is the second fragment that the Hood's been seen to acquire. Quote: I'm hoping to surprise and shock people some more before we're done. The very next section might have some interesting developments that will affect any future line-up.Quote: No doubt, but you could probably say that about any number of recent sections you've posted. True. Well, it all helps to keep the readership verging on almost two figures. Quote: I'm looking forward to seeing the final line up... I know a good number of them, and have an idea about many others thanks to the images I drew for you, but I'm not really convinced that I could predict the line-up with 100% accuracy at this point. Plus, with poster participation constantly in flux, I'm not sure what last minute changes might occur. At the moment my plans remain unchanged. The sudden reappearance of posters is more likely to disrupt them than absences. Quote: I'm ultimately curious to see how big the line-up is, and what kind of power levels it has. I suspect this will be one of the more powerful Legion incarnations. Quote: Quote: The new champion is a character who's appeared before in Untold Tales. Any ideas?Quote: Well, if there's brain eating involved, then I do hope that it isn't Jay's alternate knight son Sir John de Jaboz. Rasputatious would probably enjoy the brain eating--nothing new for him there-- but I somehow don't think that's the direction you're going. Grace O' Mercy would be an interesting way to go, but I don't think that's in store for her...Quote: Yeah, I have no idea.Noted. Quote: As for who should take Amber's job if she won't come back: I say Beth Shellet worked on the current president's campaign from early on, and is rewarded with a job with the administration...Beth did unofficially crew support staff during the Parody War - right before she was mind-tortured by Wexford the Dissected Man then brainwashed by Elizabeth von Zemo to murder Mumphrey. You can see why she might be a little reluctant. Quote: Of course, I suspect you might already have different plans for Beth's return someday.She's really a G-Eyed cast member, and now he's back he gets dibs. | ||
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Subject: Re: How important do you feel chapter breaks are? [Re: Hatman] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 09:31:17 pm EDT (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: I think Dream has it in him to be a pain-in-the-ass antagonist, but I'm not sure he can be pushed all the way to flat out villainy (if that's who the Hood is referencing.) At least not a sustainable villain... although if he loses enough of his family, I suppose I could see him going out in one tragic, chaotic act.But right now if he does that then he'll reform and do the same thing the next day, and the next. Quote: While I agree Dream doesn't have it in him to be a long-term villain, almost every superhero has their "Dark Insert-Character-Name-Here" story arc, and I don't believe Dream has had his yet.I was going to call the final part of this storyline "Darker Than Orange". | ||
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Subject: Stealth reposting [Re: Hatman] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 09:36:35 pm EDT (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: I think this snippet from Quest For Completion #13 can work as an explanation.It could indeed. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm curious to see if we get Amber back after all of this or if we end up with a new LL liaison. Quote: Quote: Garrick needs employment.Quote: It doesn't feel like a big change to put Garrick as the LL liaison since he's been involved with the team alot, good and bad, but it also has potential to develop Garrick's character more.Noted. Quote: Quote: The liaison's role has traditionally required diplomacy.Quote: And when have the LL done anything traditionally?The liason is also a government appointee, so that would narrow the field. [ Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Nice to see Hatman using his connections to get the Foundation up and running. I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles the League of Losers without his powers, or if he even can.Quote: Quote: I liked the ending but I was a bit fuzzy about the start. I need to get Jay into the fight but he can't know about it in advance or he'd have called in help. On the other hand the Losers would probably begin their attack with a massive body count which doesn't really fit the thrust of Hatty's arc right now. I need to ponder more.Quote: Couple of options I'd think.I hope top write this tomorrow once I've caught up on paid work so I'll have to decide by then. | ||
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Subject: Re: Short change [Re: HH] Posted Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 09:45:55 pm EDT (Viewed 721 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.5 on MacOS X (0.06 points) Quote: He's doing his job as he sees it, which is to stop the LL becoming a menace.I'm going to email you soon with an "interview" I just wrote. It's kind of neat, but I'm not entirely sure if any of it might create problems. It will probably annoy the General a bit. Quote: We've never found out. There may not even be any one person.That's not likely to stop Chiaki if she wants to find out. Quote: Quote: Though preventing that right now is the fact that Chiaki doesn't feel like it's any of her business. If she speaks on behalf of the Lair Legion she's placing herself at considerable risk, and CSFB! might not even accept anything she agrees to.Quote: Indeed.Quote: And of course the internal situation isn't well known outside the Mansion.That's another thing - if Chiaki suddenly starts negotiating, she's going to upset CSFB! because he's no longer in command. Quote: I hate interpreting spreadsheets prepared by morons.Aren't they all prepared by morons? Quote: I'm sure he could find a use for a conversation with Lara after her meeting with Thugos.I figured he probably knew about it already, unless he's still curious about it. Though after Mysteries of Faite Part 2 he'll be able to ask Faite about it too. |
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