I'm disappointed in you Kirk... I trust you to keep me up to date on this kind of thing, since I don't read comics or really visit the comic centric websites any longer. Still, this apparently happened in "Hulk", so I know that's not really your beat. I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on it though...

Apparently, some people are offended by a cowering, topless Silver Sable who showed up in Jeff Loeb's Hulk #17. I can't say I'm shocked (that they're offended)... and I'm not sure I've ever even read more than the briefest Sable cameo in a comic.

http://skew.dailyskew.com/2009/11/how-silver-sable-got-screwed-by-marvels.html

he tends to give the artists he works with free reign to draw what they want and then adjusts his story around that. So its very likely its the artist (Ed McGuiness?) who chose to put Sable in such a... submissive pose.

But, yeah it's not a very faithful characterization. Silver has been portrayed in the stories I've read as someone who's tough as nails, and despite her looks and skintight bodysuit, not overtly sexual at all.

I could see that... It definitely seems to be part of some running visual gag in the issue that Sable's been stripped. Apparently the red She-Hulk stole Domino's outfit (Part of some red-herring, so to speak, to suggest Domino actually was the red She-Hulk, I gather.) So Domino... went naked to Sable's place, overpowered her and is now wearing her outfit? I guess?

I could give the creative team the benefit of the doubt and say that if I read the whole issue, then maybe it might all make sense. Apparently, however, the transition to Sable's house is completely out of left field, since she hasn't been mentioned in the story up until she's naked on her knees. Seems to me there's a far more interesting adventure that must have occurred off-panel.

Anyway, since I haven't read a lot of Silver Sable, I looked her up and found an episode of "Spectacular Spider-Man" that featured her, Hammerhead, Rhino and Spidey going at it. "Tough as nails" seems pretty accurate:



Although that clip ends with her getting clocked, the fight keeps going for another video segment on top of this.

There is not any aspect of Loeb's writing that is not made of failure and soul-rape. His work on the Ultimate line of titles was such sorry dogshit that I actually found myself thinking, "Boy, I sure do miss the relatively subtle nuances, clever dialogue, well-rounded characterizations and credible, internally consistent plots of MARK FUCKING MILLAR," and since I'm pretty sure you know how I feel about Mark Millar's writing (to steal a phrase coined by Michael Swaim, it's like getting kicked in the eyes by AIDS), that should tell you how much worse Loeb is.

Loeb makes Michael Bay movies look intelligent, and the current Spider-Man comics seem marginally decent by comparison. Over on 4chan, one poster actually wrote, "I wish I could go back in time and kill Loeb's son. Yes, I know he died anyway, but I want to know that I was the one to inflict that pain on Loeb, for all the pain he's inflicted on us." When I read that, two thoughts went through my head:

1. Oh my God, what a horrible thing to say.
2. And yet, I can kind of understand where he's coming from.

What is wrong with you?! Loeb's just a comic book writer, even if he's not a good one. To equate the experience of reading a bad comic with losing a child is too cruel, and the fact that I assume it's meant in jest doesn't diminish this.

... I figured that was kind of par for the course, especially since I clarified it as being a horrible thing to say even by my own standards.

...especially if he is on your side of the argument in regards to the writer's talent level. Actually, hopefully nobody looks at that guy as being on their side of things. Yikes.