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Subject: Tom Black #12: The Judgement of Badripoor Posted Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 07:54:53 am EST (Viewed 10 times) | |
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Subject: Tom keeps testing the limits of how much he can annoy the heroes. [Re: The Hooded Hood throws in a conclusion featuring the Lair Legion, spiffy, the Baroness, Champagne, Squibb,] Posted Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 11:26:36 am EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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This may be a new record. This chapter definately shows Tom in a less sympathetic than normal light, mostly you at least show his side of the story. | ||
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Subject: I suspect he's found it. [Re: Rhiannon] Posted Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 01:00:10 pm EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: This may be a new record. This chapter definately shows Tom in a less sympathetic than normal light, mostly you at least show his side of the story.Well, when you're holding a whole city hostage to meet your own goals you're not really deserving of that much sympathy; but I take your point that a Tom-centric view at least offers some explanation. I'll try and make sure we get that when we eventially progress to #13. First Tom has a date with an issue or two of Boss Deadeyes. | ||
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Subject: That's what they call a summary judgement! [Re: The Hooded Hood throws in a conclusion featuring the Lair Legion, spiffy, the Baroness, Champagne, Squibb,] Posted Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 02:34:32 pm EST (Viewed 440 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.3 on MacOS X (0 points) Too bad Yuki didn't get to use the sledgehammer...I guess she can keep it for later. Once I considered that the Carnifex might be a fake (though I didn't know who) I wondered why nobody was sent to the Esqualine Tower to see if he's still there - though I guess that might be just what Champagne did. It's just the kind of mini-mission the Psychic Samurai might engage in, since she can hold a civil conversation with the most scary people. Once Tom regains consciousness, where could they even put him? Those Kaos orbs will make it difficult to hold him in any kind of cell, and extradition to an alien race that *can* create a cell to hold him would be difficult to do legally (especially because nobody can guarantee they won't kill him). | ||
HH notes that this issue was pretty much Untold Tales-sized |
Subject: it was a flaming long summary [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 07:09:35 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: Too bad Yuki didn't get to use the sledgehammer...I guess she can keep it for later.I'm interested in the way things played out that Yuki's quite pissed that international supervillain sponsor Justus Screwdriver hasn't ever really been caught. I'll need to remember that minor irritation on her part for future plots. Quote: Once I considered that the Carnifex might be a fake (though I didn't know who) I wondered why nobody was sent to the Esqualine Tower to see if he's still there - though I guess that might be just what Champagne did. It's just the kind of mini-mission the Psychic Samurai might engage in, since she can hold a civil conversation with the most scary people.I tried to play fair regarding the Carnifex's fakeness. In the course of the four part story I reminded people of Regret's ability then had her completely disappear from the plot. As for Champagne, she'd been established as just being great at spotting this kind of thing so I thought I'd let her run with it. At the time this four part story started poster-Champagne was still popping in occasionally. Quote: Once Tom regains consciousness, where could they even put him? Those Kaos orbs will make it difficult to hold him in any kind of cell, and extradition to an alien race that *can* create a cell to hold him would be difficult to do legally (especially because nobody can guarantee they won't kill him).The Legion won't be trying to detain Tom. He's in a nation that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US and he's been declared free of all charges there so they don't have any legal claim to him. Hatman thumped him because Tom can be a prick and deserved it. When he wakes up he's free to go. Next time we see Tom some time will have passed and he'll be in GMY. | ||
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Subject: Were a lot of fires started? [Re: HH notes that this issue was pretty much Untold Tales-sized] Posted Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:20:36 am EST (Viewed 432 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.3 on MacOS X (0.29 points) Quote: I'm interested in the way things played out that Yuki's quite pissed that international supervillain sponsor Justus Screwdriver hasn't ever really been caught. I'll need to remember that minor irritation on her part for future plots.Yuki tends to take up a side project when she's been made angry like that. But her biggest flaw in that regard is that she's bound to try and take it on herself instead of doing the smart thing and having Champagne or the Psychic Samurai locate and trap him. Quote: I tried to play fair regarding the Carnifex's fakeness. In the course of the four part story I reminded people of Regret's ability then had her completely disappear from the plot.I think back when this story started I said he either had to be fake or under the influence of something. Quote: As for Champagne, she'd been established as just being great at spotting this kind of thing so I thought I'd let her run with it. At the time this four part story started poster-Champagne was still popping in occasionally.I was just entertaining thoughts in the background of her trying to verify her suspicions first, and her sending someone to ring the Carnifex' doorbell and ask if he's home. Quote: The Legion won't be trying to detain Tom. He's in a nation that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US and he's been declared free of all charges there so they don't have any legal claim to him. Hatman thumped him because Tom can be a prick and deserved it. When he wakes up he's free to go.That's kind of a weighty conclusion, considering the number of people who will hurt him badly if they encounter him now. He's going to have to hire a bodyguard, and count himself fortunate there's no one like Keiko who would be paid to execute him without him seeing it coming. | ||
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Subject: Not as many as if Kerry had been involved. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 03:53:49 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: I'm interested in the way things played out that Yuki's quite pissed that international supervillain sponsor Justus Screwdriver hasn't ever really been caught. I'll need to remember that minor irritation on her part for future plots.Quote: Yuki tends to take up a side project when she's been made angry like that. But her biggest flaw in that regard is that she's bound to try and take it on herself instead of doing the smart thing and having Champagne or the Psychic Samurai locate and trap him.Well, Josh's creation Screwdriver (just about the last surviving Josh cast member still in play - that lad did tidy up after himself) is homage to and fills the niche of Justin Hammer, supervillain broker, and as such would make a good adversary for any hero. He's more of a James Bond mastervillain than a combat type, so if he was annoyed by Yuki or Chiaki he'd likely contract agents to go and take them down (or rather try); but only if it made sound business sense - if it was cheaper to give Chiaki a million dollar cheque to make her go away he'd probably do that. The problem is that he doesn't really break the law in many detectable ways. He's got too many middle men. We've seen one of his training islands in the Carribean (it had an unfortunate Legion experience) but there's no direct link back to him. Screwdriver keeps his hands clean. What makes him dangerous is his underworld connections. Quote: Quote: I tried to play fair regarding the Carnifex's fakeness. In the course of the four part story I reminded people of Regret's ability then had her completely disappear from the plot.Quote: I think back when this story started I said he either had to be fake or under the influence of something.Have some points then. Quote: Quote: As for Champagne, she'd been established as just being great at spotting this kind of thing so I thought I'd let her run with it. At the time this four part story started poster-Champagne was still popping in occasionally.Quote: I was just entertaining thoughts in the background of her trying to verify her suspicions first, and her sending someone to ring the Carnifex' doorbell and ask if he's home.She'd have some difficulty because Black was tying up the entire Badripoor comms net at the time (deliberately). Even the LL couldn't get signals out, as attested by Hallie. Quote: Quote: The Legion won't be trying to detain Tom. He's in a nation that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US and he's been declared free of all charges there so they don't have any legal claim to him. Hatman thumped him because Tom can be a prick and deserved it. When he wakes up he's free to go.Quote: That's kind of a weighty conclusion, considering the number of people who will hurt him badly if they encounter him now. He's going to have to hire a bodyguard, and count himself fortunate there's no one like Keiko who would be paid to execute him without him seeing it coming.Tom doesn't really care who he pisses off. He's got something of a death wish due to circumstances from before his series started, including some of his service in the Parody War. He relies on his training as an intelligence officer, his ability to plan and anticipate, and his growing power in that order to keep him ahead of the game. As for assassin attack, Tom might not spot an assailant but if he or she has a life aura his will o'th wisps would, even if Tom was sleeping. | ||
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Subject: So he's not quite master villain class yet, then? [Re: The Hooded Hood throws in a conclusion featuring the Lair Legion, spiffy, the Baroness, Champagne, Squibb,] Posted Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:56:36 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Preparing for every eventuality except for being punched out by Hatman,that is. Unless that was part of his plan too. The Carnifex being Regret was a surprise. I seem to recall a scene in an earlier chapter where he/she demonstrated some kind of power towards a villain, but I suppose a demon temptress could have pulled the stunt off just as well. Tom's off to GMY for a throwdown with Boss Deadeyes next? I thought the US cancelled his passport? | ||
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Subject: What has she been involved in? [Re: HH] Posted Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:49:45 pm EST (Viewed 365 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.3 on MacOS X (0.06 points) Quote: Well, Josh's creation Screwdriver (just about the last surviving Josh cast member still in play - that lad did tidy up after himself) is homage to and fills the niche of Justin Hammer, supervillain broker, and as such would make a good adversary for any hero. He's more of a James Bond mastervillain than a combat type, so if he was annoyed by Yuki or Chiaki he'd likely contract agents to go and take them down (or rather try); but only if it made sound business sense - if it was cheaper to give Chiaki a million dollar cheque to make her go away he'd probably do that.He might run into trouble with trying to have Chiaki assassinated anyhow - most of the higher-class assassins know her through Akiko and would refuse to take the job (and the lower-end ones would never make it alive). She would probably also turn down a million dollars to go away. Quote: The problem is that he doesn't really break the law in many detectable ways. He's got too many middle men. We've seen one of his training islands in the Carribean (it had an unfortunate Legion experience) but there's no direct link back to him. Screwdriver keeps his hands clean. What makes him dangerous is his underworld connections.Chiaki has the unique position of being someone who's pretty well connected herself. She's also really difficult to break down or have killed. But because she's not law enforcement or Lair Legion, she really doesn't have much motivation to bother Screwdriver until he becomes particularly annoying to her somehow. What might really be interesting is to see what happens if the Lair Legion has problems with Screwdriver...but Chiaki is asked by Akiko as a personal favor to stay out of it. She would have some tough choices to make. Quote: She'd have some difficulty because Black was tying up the entire Badripoor comms net at the time (deliberately). Even the LL couldn't get signals out, as attested by Hallie.I'm sure Champagne had something to resort to, maybe carrier pidgeons? Quote: Tom doesn't really care who he pisses off. He's got something of a death wish due to circumstances from before his series started, including some of his service in the Parody War. He relies on his training as an intelligence officer, his ability to plan and anticipate, and his growing power in that order to keep him ahead of the game.As an interesting aside I thought of while reading this, have you seen any of the Dexter series? The way he tracks down his "victims" and verifies that they're the right one is one of the sources I draw on for how Keiko used to do her job. Quote: As for assassin attack, Tom might not spot an assailant but if he or she has a life aura his will o'th wisps would, even if Tom was sleeping.To be honest, in Tom Black's case, Keiko probably would not take that kind of job unless she was really heavily paid for it, and even then maybe not. She wouldn't consider any job with so many variables to be routine at all. If she faces any personal danger (aside from being caught) the price goes way up, and she still may turn it down. It's likely if she saw those orbs as dangerous to her she would abort and turn down the job entirely. If they were just there to alert him, though, she would use their presence against him and turn them into a trap. That would actually make her job easier. Chiaki, of course, isn't an assassin for hire, but if she had reason to go after Tom those orbs would not deter her the least bit. She wouldn't care at all that they alert Tom of her presence, because she believes he doesn't have a reason to run from her. She has a calming demeanor and quiet attitude that makes her seem non-offensive and non-dangerous most of the time, and she uses that to disarm many enemies by seeming not to be a threat. | ||
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Subject: I would think people would have a hard time forgetting about *spoiler* [Re: The Hooded Hood throws in a conclusion featuring the Lair Legion, spiffy, the Baroness, Champagne, Squibb,] Posted Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 05:04:06 pm EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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One interesting angle on this is that the Legion was actually considering fighting the Carnifex... something that would apparently be unthinkable to them under normal circumstances. I wonder if any of them will notice that and give it any thought... whether the absence of that adoration of him will draw attention to the fact that it's there other times and make any of them question it. In any event, a fun conclusion to a wild free-for-all in Badripoor. Always good to see spiffy and company. Oh, and special thanks for that last line... that was so needed. | ||
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Subject: Yeah, I definitely need to figure out how to do a Black/CSFB! team-up now. :) [Re: The Hooded Hood throws in a conclusion featuring the Lair Legion, spiffy, the Baroness, Champagne, Squibb,] Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 04:17:22 am EST (Viewed 410 times) | |
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Subject: Even master villains need thumping on occasion. Ask Ben Grimm. [Re: killer shrike enjoyed this rollicking conclusion] Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 06:28:10 pm EST | |
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Quote: Preparing for every eventuality except for being punched out by Hatman,that is. Unless that was part of his plan too.I can pretty much guarantee that Tom was perhaps the only person who didn't see that coming. Quote: The Carnifex being Regret was a surprise. I seem to recall a scene in an earlier chapter where he/she demonstrated some kind of power towards a villain, but I suppose a demon temptress could have pulled the stunt off just as well.I'll have to go back and check what that was. Since I knew at the time that the Carnifex was Regret I must have had some idea how the thing was fudged. Quote: Tom's off to GMY for a throwdown with Boss Deadeyes next? I thought the US cancelled his passport?Villainous, eh? | ||
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Subject: Sounds good to me. Any particular reason? [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 06:30:35 pm EST | |
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Subject: Just follow the fire trucks [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 06:44:43 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: ... if [Screwdriver] was annoyed by Yuki or Chiaki he'd likely contract agents to go and take them down (or rather try); but only if it made sound business sense - if it was cheaper to give Chiaki a million dollar cheque to make her go away he'd probably do that.Quote: He might run into trouble with trying to have Chiaki assassinated anyhow - most of the higher-class assassins know her through Akiko and would refuse to take the job (and the lower-end ones would never make it alive). She would probably also turn down a million dollars to go away.Screwdriver might well look to a team like the one he sent against Black: Anvil Man because he's literally indestuctible and can detonate things (even people) on line of sight, Dreamripper for the psionic attacks to distract, Genetwist because he can mutate people just by touch making close physical combat with him very dangerous, and Baroness Morbo because magic is such a cheat against primarily physical combatants. I'd say that Chiaki would still probably hold out against that lot and at least escape; she might inflict casualties; but in any case it would be a serious fight that could well go the other way. Every hero has certain villians whom their power set doesn't offer them much protection against. For the Psychic Samurai it's probably energy projectors like the sentient atomic radiation being Dr Roentgen. Quote: Quote: The problem is that he doesn't really break the law in many detectable ways. He's got too many middle men. Quote: Chiaki has the unique position of being someone who's pretty well connected herself. She's also really difficult to break down or have killed. But because she's not law enforcement or Lair Legion, she really doesn't have much motivation to bother Screwdriver until he becomes particularly annoying to her somehow.He'd probably be quite willing to hire her or to broker her hire to a client. Quote: What might really be interesting is to see what happens if the Lair Legion has problems with Screwdriver...but Chiaki is asked by Akiko as a personal favor to stay out of it. She would have some tough choices to make.I imagine the circumstances would dictate her response. I'm not really planning anything regarding Screwdriver just now but I'm certain that one day he'll either make a mistake, cross over the line, or simply get to the top of the LL's to-do list and then it's superhero wrestlemania for a while. Quote: Quote: She'd have some difficulty because Black was tying up the entire Badripoor comms net at the time (deliberately). Even the LL couldn't get signals out, as attested by Hallie.Quote: I'm sure Champagne had something to resort to, maybe carrier pidgeons?Wouldn't that require her to be carrying pigeons specifically bred in Chaiki's loft? And wouldn't it take weeks for them to fly halfway round the globe to Paradopolis? And wouldn't Chiaki have to have return pigeons that home to spiffy's palace? Semaphore flags are clearly the way to go. Quote: As an interesting aside I thought of while reading this, have you seen any of the Dexter series? The way he tracks down his "victims" and verifies that they're the right one is one of the sources I draw on for how Keiko used to do her job.I'm afraid I don't know the series. I'm not sure it's shown here. Quote: Quote: As for assassin attack, Tom might not spot an assailant but if he or she has a life aura his will o'th wisps would, even if Tom was sleeping.Quote: To be honest, in Tom Black's case, Keiko probably would not take that kind of job unless she was really heavily paid for it, and even then maybe not. She wouldn't consider any job with so many variables to be routine at all. If she faces any personal danger (aside from being caught) the price goes way up, and she still may turn it down. It's likely if she saw those orbs as dangerous to her she would abort and turn down the job entirely.I think Chiaki could likely sense the wrongness of the will o'th wisps as well as the energies inside Black himself. Quote: If they were just there to alert him, though, she would use their presence against him and turn them into a trap. That would actually make her job easier.The best way for an assassin to take Tom down would be via long range high-powered rifle or through poison/ Quote: Chiaki, of course, isn't an assassin for hire, but if she had reason to go after Tom those orbs would not deter her the least bit. She wouldn't care at all that they alert Tom of her presence, because she believes he doesn't have a reason to run from her. She has a calming demeanor and quiet attitude that makes her seem non-offensive and non-dangerous most of the time, and she uses that to disarm many enemies by seeming not to be a threat.Noted. | ||
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Subject: You'll always have Badripoor [Re: Visionary] Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 06:47:09 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: One interesting angle on this is that the Legion was actually considering fighting the Carnifex... something that would apparently be unthinkable to them under normal circumstances. I wonder if any of them will notice that and give it any thought... whether the absence of that adoration of him will draw attention to the fact that it's there other times and make any of them question it.Good point. I'm one Carnifex Untold Tales off finally shifting that damn sub-plot towards resolution. Quote: In any event, a fun conclusion to a wild free-for-all in Badripoor. Always good to see spiffy and company. Oh, and special thanks for that last line... that was so needed.I couldn't see any way that the LL could or should just let Tom walk away smirking at his success. This seemed a good way to prick his ego. | ||
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Subject: It's tough to decide which one to follow. [Re: HH] Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 08:37:35 pm EST (Viewed 418 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.3 on MacOS X (0.34 points) Quote: I'd say that Chiaki would still probably hold out against that lot and at least escape; she might inflict casualties; but in any case it would be a serious fight that could well go the other way.Chiaki cheats too. Her most popular strategy in this case is simply not to be where she was expected to be. It'd be a super-powered mob hitting a lot of empty buildings. This is where the Psychic part of her nickname comes strongly into play. The second strategy, which she employed during the Moderator Saga, is to counter the super-powered mob with a super-powered posse of her own (hence the she has a lot of powerful friends part), only smaller and either very powerful or very clever. Possibly even ask them to harass the super-powered assassination mob while she goes after Screwdriver himself. What's ironic about that is, it's not even her own strategy. She learned a lot from the Lair Legion. Quote: Every hero has certain villians whom their power set doesn't offer them much protection against. For the Psychic Samurai it's probably energy projectors like the sentient atomic radiation being Dr Roentgen.The good news for her is she knows her weaknesses, and tries her best to avoid letting herself get into a situation where someone can exploit it. She knows it might happen someday, but she tries her best. Also another weakness she has is something simple: Someone who's more of a wrestler type fighter, who moves in close very fast and uses their body weight and strength against her. She'll fight back against that violently, but it places her at a huge disadvantage because of her small size. Quote: He'd probably be quite willing to hire her or to broker her hire to a client.Chiaki is highly unlikely to take jobs from him. Unless it involves some sort of blackmail perhaps, and even then she'll find a way to make him pay for it later. Quote: Quote: What might really be interesting is to see what happens if the Lair Legion has problems with Screwdriver...but Chiaki is asked by Akiko as a personal favor to stay out of it. She would have some tough choices to make.Quote: I imagine the circumstances would dictate her response.It would. Quote: Wouldn't that require her to be carrying pigeons specifically bred in Chaiki's loft? And wouldn't it take weeks for them to fly halfway round the globe to Paradopolis? And wouldn't Chiaki have to have return pigeons that home to spiffy's palace?It doesn't have to be the whole way. The pigeons would only have to leave Badripoor and meet a friendly with a phone who can call Paradopolis. Quote: Quote: As an interesting aside I thought of while reading this, have you seen any of the Dexter series? The way he tracks down his "victims" and verifies that they're the right one is one of the sources I draw on for how Keiko used to do her job.Quote: I'm afraid I don't know the series. I'm not sure it's shown here.Dexter is a serial killer who's also a blood spatter tech for the Miami police. He kills those who escape justice. The fun part, though, is watching how he manages to track them down and make sure they're the right one first. Quote: I think Chiaki could likely sense the wrongness of the will o'th wisps as well as the energies inside Black himself.That much evil might trigger a fight-or-flight kind of reaction in her. She might even try to leave quickly or badly hurt him to escape the interference. Quote: The best way for an assassin to take Tom down would be via long range high-powered rifle or through poison/That's what separates Keiko and Chiaki. Keiko is trained with rifles and willing to use one. Chiaki finds them cold and impersonal. The scary one, though, is the one you don't see coming. If she were properly motivated, Lara Night is perfectly able to turning him into a charcoal fossil at close or long range, and she's capable of it. The trick to that, of course, is she would need a lot of motivation, much more than Chiaki, and especially Keiko. Lara has had to kill before, and isn't eager to do it again - but she's not dead set against it like Hatman, either. | ||
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Subject: Chaos meets Kaos. Part antagonism, part partnership. :) [Re: HH] Posted Wed Nov 11, 2009 at 02:03:55 am EST (Viewed 382 times) | |
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Subject: All it needs is the french singer in the smoky bar. [Re: The Hooded Hood throws in a conclusion featuring the Lair Legion, spiffy, the Baroness, Champagne, Squibb,] Posted Mon Nov 16, 2009 at 03:35:31 pm EST (Viewed 395 times) | |
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Subject: I think it also needs two more replies to encourage me to write the next story. [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 05:53:38 pm EST | |
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Subject: It's a team up that has to happen. Proceed. [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 05:54:08 pm EST | |
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Subject: Follow your heart. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 06:01:10 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: I'd say that Chiaki would still probably hold out against that lot and at least escape; she might inflict casualties; but in any case it would be a serious fight that could well go the other way.Quote: Chiaki cheats too. Quote: Her most popular strategy in this case is simply not to be where she was expected to be. It'd be a super-powered mob hitting a lot of empty buildings. This is where the Psychic part of her nickname comes strongly into play.Agreed. Quote: The second strategy, which she employed during the Moderator Saga, is to counter the super-powered mob with a super-powered posse of her own (hence the she has a lot of powerful friends part), only smaller and either very powerful or very clever. Possibly even ask them to harass the super-powered assassination mob while she goes after Screwdriver himself.It'd be a good story but it's moving towards DEFCON 1 on the superhero wars. Quote: What's ironic about that is, it's not even her own strategy. She learned a lot from the Lair Legion.Quote: Quote: Every hero has certain villians whom their power set doesn't offer them much protection against. For the Psychic Samurai it's probably energy projectors like the sentient atomic radiation being Dr Roentgen.Quote: The good news for her is she knows her weaknesses, and tries her best to avoid letting herself get into a situation where someone can exploit it. She knows it might happen someday, but she tries her best.This is common for superheroes. It's why no story ever pits Batman vs Darkseid in one to one combat unless Bats has been given an absolutely awesome amount of preparation time. Quote: Also another weakness she has is something simple: Someone who's more of a wrestler type fighter, who moves in close very fast and uses their body weight and strength against her. She'll fight back against that violently, but it places her at a huge disadvantage because of her small size.I think she's probably well versed in how to avoid that particular strategy though. Quote: Quote: He'd probably be quite willing to hire her or to broker her hire to a client.Quote: Chiaki is highly unlikely to take jobs from him. Unless it involves some sort of blackmail perhaps, and even then she'll find a way to make him pay for it later.Screwdriver tends not to get into revenge scenarios. They're bad for business. He prefers gathering favours then calling them in. Quote: Quote: Wouldn't that require her to be carrying pigeons specifically bred in Chaiki's loft? And wouldn't it take weeks for them to fly halfway round the globe to Paradopolis? And wouldn't Chiaki have to have return pigeons that home to spiffy's palace?Quote: It doesn't have to be the whole way. The pigeons would only have to leave Badripoor and meet a friendly with a phone who can call Paradopolis.That would require a precognitive ability to know that Black was about to launch a citywide takeover. Quote: Quote: I think Chiaki could likely sense the wrongness of the will o'th wisps as well as the energies inside Black himself.Quote: That much evil might trigger a fight-or-flight kind of reaction in her. She might even try to leave quickly or badly hurt him to escape the interference.Indeed. Quote: The scary one, though, is the one you don't see coming. If she were properly motivated, Lara Night is perfectly able to turning him into a charcoal fossil at close or long range, and she's capable of it. The trick to that, of course, is she would need a lot of motivation, much more than Chiaki, and especially Keiko. Lara has had to kill before, and isn't eager to do it again - but she's not dead set against it like Hatman, either.There's lots of ways to kill any character if the story requires it. The skill comes in avoiding the situation where that's the logical outcome. | ||
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.26 points) Quote: Quote: The second strategy, which she employed during the Moderator Saga, is to counter the super-powered mob with a super-powered posse of her own (hence the she has a lot of powerful friends part), only smaller and either very powerful or very clever. Possibly even ask them to harass the super-powered assassination mob while she goes after Screwdriver himself.Quote: It'd be a good story but it's moving towards DEFCON 1 on the superhero wars.There is a point where Chiaki is really unwilling to escalate to. She's willing to call in a posse to teach another posse a lesson; but if it's going to be a battle that will cause a lot of collateral damage and put innocent lives at risk she'll find a different way to do things. For instance if someone sent the Carnifex after her, rather than involve the entire Lair Legion and possibly a few alien races to beat him, she probably would just try to negotiate with him, and appeal to either his sense of honor or pity. She's not above using big, sad puppy dog eyes in situations like that. Quote: Quote: Also another weakness she has is something simple: Someone who's more of a wrestler type fighter, who moves in close very fast and uses their body weight and strength against her. She'll fight back against that violently, but it places her at a huge disadvantage because of her small size.Quote: I think she's probably well versed in how to avoid that particular strategy though.She's been cornered before, and was badly hurt. She won the fight, though. Quote: Screwdriver tends not to get into revenge scenarios. They're bad for business. He prefers gathering favours then calling them in.This is an interesting spot to point out an interesting contrast between two characters. Chiaki particularly hates people who think they have superior intelligence and therefore have the innate right exploit other people, especially those they feel contempt for. Chiaki will manipulate people sometimes, but usually on genuinely friendly terms. In other words, she would make a terrible Hollywood agent. Note that this also means she would have a particular dislike for the Hooded Hood. Screwdriver sounds like he's in that same category. Lara Night, on the other hand, thinks its fun to match wits with the super-smart and super-powerful types - but not so much to battle them physically. She can be quite sneaky in her own right, but tries to keep honest so she can sleep at night. She believes the Hooded Hood to be occasionally interesting, sometimes a fun opponent. Screwdriver, she might make as angry as she made the Chronicler. Quote: That would require a precognitive ability to know that Black was about to launch a citywide takeover.She might have passed a carrier pidgeon vendor somewhere in Badripoor. And they might be fairly common among people who don't trust their communications not to be intercepted. Quote: Quote: Quote: I think Chiaki could likely sense the wrongness of the will o'th wisps as well as the energies inside Black himself.Quote: Quote: That much evil might trigger a fight-or-flight kind of reaction in her. She might even try to leave quickly or badly hurt him to escape the interference.Quote: Indeed.It's kind of like if you have something in the room with you making a high-pitched cricket noise, only very loud. You might be highly tempted to bash it into dust with a stapler. In Chiaki's case, Tom might produce a lot less psychic noise if he's unconscious. Quote: Quote: The scary one, though, is the one you don't see coming. If she were properly motivated, Lara Night is perfectly able to turning him into a charcoal fossil at close or long range, and she's capable of it. The trick to that, of course, is she would need a lot of motivation, much more than Chiaki, and especially Keiko. Lara has had to kill before, and isn't eager to do it again - but she's not dead set against it like Hatman, either.Quote: There's lots of ways to kill any character if the story requires it. The skill comes in avoiding the situation where that's the logical outcome.Lara hates being the "bad guy" if she can avoid it. Note how much abuse she's taken while in the Parodyverse simply because she's unwilling to use extremely deadly force. She's a lot like a cop who's been shot several times because he's afraid to draw his weapon. But, if she feels sufficiently threatened - or if her friends are threatened enough to force her to lose her temper - she's not going to freeze up and allow herself or her friends to be killed to preserve her white-hat status. |
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