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Forest Week: If You go Down To The Woods Today… Part One
“Sit-rep,†Hatman said gravely as he strode into the Operations Room at the Lair Mansion, pulling on his trademark baseball cap with its H-logo.
“Emergency flag tripped eighty seconds ago,†reported Amber St Clare from the communications console. “Hallie’s on it now. Hallie?â€Â
Hatman looked from the Legion’s government liaison to their resident artificial intelligence. The trim green-skinned hologram of the Mansion’s sentient computer program gestured to change the situation display globe to show a patch of national forest in New England. “At 19.22 the President’s plane was attacked in flight over this area. The internal assault alarm was triggered and then nothing. The plane’s not in the sky any more.â€Â
“Do we have any readings to give us a clue?â€Â
The Ops Room door whooshed open as archscientist Al B. Harper and CrazySugarFreakBoy! hurried in. “Did someone say readings?†Al asked. “I love readings.â€Â
“There was a coded video feed going out from the cockpit,†Hallie replied. “I’m decrypting it now. I can give you the audio.â€Â
“Put it onscreen, Uhura,†CrazySugarFreakBoy! commanded. “Then give nu-Spock some sugar.â€Â
Here was a tweeting noise as Hallie broke through fifteen layers of top-secret signal encryption. Then the pilot’s voice rang over the speakers. “Aaagh! Koalas! Koala attack!â€Â
“I’ve got video now too,†Hallie announced. Screen One was suddenly filled with an image of Airforce One’s cockpit, filled with rabid marsupials.
“No!†gasped Al B. Harper, taking an involuntary step backwards. “Drop-bears!â€Â
“I’ve got SPUD online now,†Amber called, announcing a link-up with the Super-menace Principal Undercover Directorate. “Colonel Dan Drury.â€Â
Hatman stepped forward. “Drury, what have you got?â€Â
“Bitch of a day, Boaz. First they’re tryin’ to replace me with some bald black guy an’ now the President’s plane dives into the wilderness. I’ve got a guy goin’ in to investigate.â€Â
Yuki Shiro hurried into the room. The crisis was three minutes in and she’d been hitting bars for information in Paradopolis when the alarms had triggered. Her bike was parked outside the Ops Room. Half a dozen traffic cops were heading for therapy. “I’m up to speed,†the cyborg P.I. announced. She’d been following the Ops Room chatter on her internal communications array. “Who’s your agent?â€Â
“The Pres of the USA’s missing,†Drury replied. “Who d’you think we’re gonna send?â€Â
“Jack Bauer?†suggested CSFB!
“Patching the operative through now,†Hallie reported. “He’s para-diving into the area.â€Â
“This is Silver Aegis entering the crash zone,†came back the bold confident tones of America’s apotheosis. “I can see a trail of broken trees. Looks like Air Force one is down.â€Â
“He’ll need backup,†Hatman decided. “Call the team.â€Â
Nats hurried through the door. “Did someone say Lair Legion Line up?†he asked eagerly.
“They did now,†sighed Amber. She pushed the big red button to call the other members of the world’s greatest superteam.
In a disused library in Manitoba, Canada, Moon Public Librarian Lee Bookman triggered his automatic return transport to the Lunar Library so he could take his Galactibus shuttle down to Parody Island (he wasn’t allowed to use the digital data transferor for non-Library business).
In a shoe sale at Mimble’s Department Store mild-mannered waitress Sarah Shepherdson dropped the lady with whom she was competing for a set of discount sling-backed sandals with a neat neck chop, elbowed the guy behind her who was rubbing far too many body parts against her in the sale scrum, and made for the counter. The Probability Dancer was needed; just as soon as her footwear needs were satisfied.
In the shower at Visionary’s dimensionally-unstable lighthouse the possibly-fake associate member of the Lair Legion groped his way towards a towel. He hoped the bleeping was his LL comm-card rather than any kind of detonation countdown device, but given he had Kerry Shepherdson living in the tower it was an even chance. Of course, it could just as likely be the comm-card destruct mode warning. It was a shame the towel and his clothes had all been packed up while he showered and sent to deserving orphans in Africa. Still, at least the new bathroom livecam was working.
In a bucket in a cyclopean lair beneath the Mansion the Manga Shoggoth formed a rigid sandcastle shape where his gelid mass had frozen. “Mmm,†he considered. “Interesting, but it’s not going to replace universal heat death,†he judged. “Still, thank you Icy. I’m always open to new experiences.â€Â
“Once you’ve gone slushee you never go back,†promised the visiting snowman. “Perhaps you need a carrot and some coal to really get the hang of it?â€Â
“Then I’ll be beloved of children everywhere,†anticipated the loathsome elder being. “Ho ho ho.â€Â
The traumatising of the world’s youth was postponed by the summons to line up.
While CSFB! and Nats were prepping LairJets One and Two, Hatman and Yuki were interrogating Dr Harper. “Drop bears,†Yuki said, “There’s nothing in our files about them.â€Â
“Well, there wouldn’t be,†Al B. warned. “Nasty little buggers. Their main power is to make people not believe in them. Half an hour after meeting them you won’t remember who chewed your arm off.â€Â
“You seem to remember them,†Hatman pointed out.
“I’m extremely clever,†explained the archscientist. “But what would make the drop bears swam at this time of year, and so far from home?â€Â
“So the President might have been eaten?†Yuki worried. “Maybe it was the Republicans?â€Â
“Silver Aegis here,†came in the voice of the perfect patriot Scott Scoggins over the SPUD linkup. “I’m at the crash site. No sign of the President. No bodies. We may have an abduction scenario. I’m checking the area.â€Â
Hatman pulled on a communications headset. Suddenly he was as one with the entire comms system of the USA. “Okay,†called into his headset. “Ops team one is with me. That’s Dancer and the Shoggoth. We do primary crash location, check for clues. Team two’s with Dream, that’s Yuki and Nats. You find Silver Agent and hook up with him, keep on quartering the area. Lee, you’re research. Find out what we don’t believe about Drop Bears.â€Â
“I don’t believe we’ve got anything,†the Librarian replied. He paused as he considered what he’d said then added determinedly, “And that’s why they need to be indexed.â€Â
“Yep. Al, I want some way of us taking down the opposition, and maybe some idea of why they’re suddenly, er, dropping.â€Â
“Don’t let them get their teeth into anything vital you might want to keep,†the archscientist advised.
“Vizh, you’re on monitor duty.â€Â
“Great,†replied the founding Legionnaire. “Do they have towels in the Ops Room?â€Â
“Let’s go!†Hatman called. CSFB! was able to stifle Nats before he shouted anything out.
Visionary arrived in the Operations Room wearing Donar’s old dressing gown. It smelled of goats and had a flagon of beer in one pocket and a two-handed axe in the other. “The LairJets are away,†Hallie informed him. “Nice to see you. And I don’t just mean the u-tube file your students just uploaded.â€Â
Marie Murcheson slipped into the Ops Room behind the possibly-fake man. “There’s another thing you probably need to know about,†she advised the support staff.
“What did Flapjack do now?†demanded Amber St Clare. “Why haven’t you designed a Neutering Ray yet, Harper?â€Â
“It’s not Flapjack,†Marie told them. “Nats’ bathroom is a swamp.â€Â
“Tell me about it,†shuddered Hallie. “I think Kenny’s growing new kinds of fungus in his bathtub.â€Â
“No,†clarified the mansion’s resident banshee. “I mean there’s a swamp in Nats’ bathroom. You open the door and there’s a thick boggy forest right there. Some kind of dimensional anomaly, I’m sensing.â€Â
“Ah,†Hallie understood. “Sounds like a job for Visionary.â€Â
“Wait – what?†spluttered the possibly-fake man.
Continued…
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Subject: I think this is the suprise. [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 11:37:39 am EDT (Viewed 4 times) |
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There's nothing wrong with being early, especially with a story this fun.
I will try and catch up with everything else as soon as possible, I feel really bad about ignoring everyone.
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Subject: So your comment below was actually serious? [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 12:09:54 pm EDT (Viewed 491 times) |
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I'm surprised they didn't blame Liu Xi for putting the swamp in Nats' bathroom. Though she has a distinctly different style - she wouldn't put the swamp in the bathroom, she would put the bathroom in a swamp.
Isn't there a problem with any of the Legionnaires seeing the Drop Bears instantly not believing in them and forgetting why they're in the forest to begin with?
And as an off-topic aside: if you notice, I've been trying to keep the flow of the board going with various stories - the latest of which is more difficult than usual because it's so long, and I got myself in really deep, but that's not really the point. The problem is I'm starting to run into walls trying not to change anything too much to avoid upsetting the posters and whatever plans you or them might have.
It's still fun writing "around" the walls, but sooner or later the people who read the stories will start to realize that's exactly what I'm doing, and they'll get bored. That's what I'm most worried about now.
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Subject: Re: I think this is the suprise. [Re: Rhiannon] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 01:39:16 pm EDT (Viewed 3 times) |
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> I'm surprised they didn't blame Liu Xi for putting the swamp in Nats' bathroom. Though she has a distinctly different style - she wouldn't put the swamp in the bathroom, she would put the bathroom in a swamp.
There's a "blame Liu Xi" line due in our very next chapter.
> Isn't there a problem with any of the Legionnaires seeing the Drop Bears instantly not believing in them and forgetting why they're in the forest to begin with?
Yes. Fortunately forewarned is forearmed. For example, I'd imagine that Yuki could program herself an automatic reminder message every 30 seconds.
> And as an off-topic aside: if you notice, I've been trying to keep the flow of the board going with various stories - the latest of which is more difficult than usual because it's so long, and I got myself in really deep, but that's not really the point. The problem is I'm starting to run into walls trying not to change anything too much to avoid upsetting the posters and whatever plans you or them might have.
It's always a problem. generally posters are open to being contacted and commenting on changes.
> It's still fun writing "around" the walls, but sooner or later the people who read the stories will start to realize that's exactly what I'm doing, and they'll get bored. That's what I'm most worried about now.
I'm well over a year behind where I expected with PV plots. I'd planned the Carnifax situation to be a short term plotline! I have a whole Sturdy Strolling Beggarly Brotherhhod arc I haven't dared broach yet. I have plots that involve Hatty/Rabid Wolf that I don't really want to progress sans-Jay. And so on.
Generally my uber-plan goes:
Tom Black #12, completing the current Tom arc.
UT issue featuring the Carnifex, setting up the next big event I intend to do.
Boss Deadeyes stuff featuring the return of the Lynchpin.
Vinnie De Soth's dinner with his family.
The end of the Herringcarp Asylum horror series.
Possibly the Sturdy Strolling Beggarly Brotherhood
The LL vs the Carnifex.
The Da Visionary Code.
Of course, I reserve the right to change my mind.
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Subject: Well, I'd got this idea in my head and I knew if i didn't write it now I never would. [Re: Rhiannon] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 01:41:08 pm EDT (Viewed 3 times) |
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Theologically speaking penitence involves action where feasible as well as remorse. Proceed.
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Subject: I'd no sooner posted my response to Al than a plot came and smacked me in the head. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 01:42:44 pm EDT |
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Subject: Okay, this is a reply to Jason. Don't ask. [Re: HH] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 01:43:29 pm EDT |
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Subject: New England forests? Anywhere near Arkham? Good to see you back, anyway. :) [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 04:15:02 pm EDT (Viewed 463 times) |
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Subject: This is why we have Spoilers flags. [Re: HH] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 04:31:37 pm EDT (Viewed 515 times) |
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...for good reason, as you'll see further down.
Quote: There's a "blame Liu Xi" line due in our very next chapter.
Sounds like she's not going to be happy.
Quote: Yes. Fortunately forewarned is forearmed. For example, I'd imagine that Yuki could program herself an automatic reminder message every 30 seconds.
But then she'll have to remind everyone else every 30 seconds.
Quote: It's always a problem. generally posters are open to being contacted and commenting on changes.
In some cases though I'd have to find them first. In other cases, most of them so far, the changes I make are generally not liked, so I'm not confident about asking.
Quote: I'm well over a year behind where I expected with PV plots. I'd planned the Carnifax situation to be a short term plotline! I have a whole Sturdy Strolling Beggarly Brotherhhod arc I haven't dared broach yet. I have plots that involve Hatty/Rabid Wolf that I don't really want to progress sans-Jay. And so on.
What's funny is, as an aside, I've been placing a few things carefully for some issues relates to these, should they come up. For instance:
- Faite's choice for Hatman: I fully expect that if poster-Jay returns, it's very likely, like an 8 out of 10 chance, that he'll just be stopping by to say that (like 90% of the posters who left here) he's concentrating on raising a family and career, and he's not "back". Like AG, he's always sort of taken ownership of his character Hatman. So I fully believe that if he decides to formally take leave of the board, his character will have to leave the Lair Legion and be shelved. I also believe the only reason it hasn't been yet is poster-Jay had in the back of his mind to visit here or email someone to say something but either hasn't gotten around to it, or doesn't know how to say it without feeling bad.
So I left the option - in a single scene, Hatman can take Faite's offer and give up his hat-power, retire, and as I believe is in true Hatman style, leave without saying goodbye to start his new life. It beats the other option, which Faite predicted - Hatman being killed first by the Carnifex. Though this might create good motivation for the always cool Psychic Samurai to lose her temper (more on that below) or Liu Xi to go rogue.
- And speaking of the Carnifex, in this latest arc I've posted, there's a new less self-aware android that SPUD seems to have developed. Since it's their job to be paranoid, it's quite likely they were designed both as a counter to the Lair Legion and to the Carnifex.
- Let's see if you can meet this challenge: Take a guess which things Faite nudged along to alter the present so the Carnifex and his bosses are easier to deal with in the future. There are three so far, and only one of them is obvious (one of them happened a long time ago).
Also thinly laid-out plots that I've scrapped or shelved in the last few months:
- Liu Xi "going rogue". Now she's a complicated person, so she wouldn't just go insane or fight the Lair Legion. Some kind of catalyst would have to convince her that standing idly by is no longer acceptable, and she would start using her power to take matters into her own hands. People would likely get hurt in the process, but only people who deserve it. Of course because of her sentimentality toward the LL, she'd always stay close enough to the curb to avoid having to fight them.
- Like I briefly mentioned above, some sort of major catalyst causing the Psychic Samurai to lose her temper. That doesn't sound like much until you realize that true to her name, she sees weaknesses in her foes - and because of her training, anger increases her focus dramatically. Which doesn't amount to that much when she's on the defense, but if she goes on the hunt, she becomes very dangerous.
For instance I thought it might be ironic if the professional hunter The Carnifex is shaken and worried because of this fairly weak relentless human who will hound him from the shadows and never let him be until she kills him. He'd have to worry about sleeping, drinking beverages and eating, or leaving his home. That's the kind of thing that may occur if he kills Hatman, or any of Chiaki's friends for that matter.
Or another possibility, since you mentioned the Lynchpin, what might happen if Akiko was killed, especially if it was a message to the rest of her organization. Chiaki might just go vigilante, and bodies would start piling up.
Anyway, the point is, I had a lot of radical ideas, but I've been shelving them as quickly as I've been making them up to avoid making too many waves. Those are the walls I have to work within.
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Subject: Ooh! Nice start! I'll see if I can add something later (after all, my holiday is in a few weeks time...) [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 05:23:36 pm EDT |
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Subject: Interesting. [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 09:53:48 pm EDT (Viewed 469 times) |
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Subject: I would have figured it was the Word who was replacing Drury, based on recent Marvel events [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 12:09:55 am EDT (Viewed 2 times) |
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An intriguing set up. Looking forward to finding out who sicced the Drop Bears on the prez (I'm thinking maybe Rupert Murdoch) and why Nats's bathroom is more fetid than usual.
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Subject: Indubitably. [Re: L!] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 02:27:38 am EDT |
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Subject: I should imagine that you're already on vacation in Australian time. [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 02:28:16 am EDT |
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Subject: Could be near Arkham if it makes you happy. Nice to be back. [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 02:29:22 am EDT |
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Subject: That's a storyline for CSFB! to pursue. I was just taking a swipe at Samuel Jackson. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 04:18:52 am EDT |
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Subject: Re: This is why we have Spoilers flags. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 04:18:58 am EDT (Viewed 2 times) |
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Quote: ...for good reason, as you'll see further down.
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Quote: There's a "blame Liu Xi" line due in our very next chapter.
Quote: Sounds like she's not going to be happy.
I'm not sure if Liu Xi's going to be in this story, which I hope to keep relatively short with a minimal cast of one character per regular poster. On the other hand it's a natural comment for someone to make.
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Quote: Yes. Fortunately forewarned is forearmed. For example, I'd imagine that Yuki could program herself an automatic reminder message every 30 seconds.
Quote: But then she'll have to remind everyone else every 30 seconds.
There are other techniques the other LL can use. Hatman could use his Thinking Cap. Dancer could improbably be reminded every minute. The Shoggoth's probably naturally immune because his thought processes are so alien anyway. The rest might have to rely on Hallie or simply have notes tied round their necks.
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Quote: It's always a problem. generally posters are open to being contacted and commenting on changes.
Quote: In some cases though I'd have to find them first. In other cases, most of them so far, the changes I make are generally not liked, so I'm not confident about asking.
I'm lucky there since I created quite a significant proportion of PV cast (over half the characters including villains that appear in Untold Tales were introduced by me) so that gives me plenty of leeway to play with. One reason I encourage posters to develop their own supporting ensembles and their own situations is that it allows them more creative freedom than having to continually reset things to status quo ante.
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Quote: I'm well over a year behind where I expected with PV plots. I'd planned the Carnifax situation to be a short term plotline! I have a whole Sturdy Strolling Beggarly Brotherhhod arc I haven't dared broach yet. I have plots that involve Hatty/Rabid Wolf that I don't really want to progress sans-Jay. And so on.
Quote: What's funny is, as an aside, I've been placing a few things carefully for some issues relates to these, should they come up. For instance:
Quote: - Faite's choice for Hatman: I fully expect that if poster-Jay returns, it's very likely, like an 8 out of 10 chance, that he'll just be stopping by to say that (like 90% of the posters who left here) he's concentrating on raising a family and career, and he's not "back". Like AG, he's always sort of taken ownership of his character Hatman. So I fully believe that if he decides to formally take leave of the board, his character will have to leave the Lair Legion and be shelved. I also believe the only reason it hasn't been yet is poster-Jay had in the back of his mind to visit here or email someone to say something but either hasn't gotten around to it, or doesn't know how to say it without feeling bad.
If I had more time to guarantee my own level of activity on the board I'd chase some people up as I have done before. However at the moment I'm using a lot of my "free time" to write things for publication (i.e things I'll get paid for) so I'm not really confident of my ability to sustain such a regular PV input. One reason I've always refrained from selling my fiction output is to keep that as a hobby without this pressure to work on commercial material. Now I've got the problem of balancing hobby writing with "work" writing and I'm not able to handle both very well.
Work-wise I'd like to complete a trilogy of short novels in the next three months. The first is done. The second is 8500 words off completion. The third isn't started. Fortuately I'm ahead of schedule on my contributions to four planned anthologies; those short stories are already turned in. The Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective anthology apparently sold fairly well (the bestselling book the little publishing house Cornerstone have ever had in their ten years existence, so they're keen for a vol 2) so it makes sense to write things for them while they're keen to publish them.
Quote: So I left the option - in a single scene, Hatman can take Faite's offer and give up his hat-power, retire, and as I believe is in true Hatman style, leave without saying goodbye to start his new life. It beats the other option, which Faite predicted - Hatman being killed first by the Carnifex. Though this might create good motivation for the always cool Psychic Samurai to lose her temper (more on that below) or Liu Xi to go rogue.
I think we need to give Jay a little more leeway.
Quote: - And speaking of the Carnifex, in this latest arc I've posted, there's a new less self-aware android that SPUD seems to have developed. Since it's their job to be paranoid, it's quite likely they were designed both as a counter to the Lair Legion and to the Carnifex.
It's a bit like SHIELD expecting that their anti-Thor measures will work.
I'm always a bit sceptical about the law enforcement agencies having tech that can actually take down Hero X. If the government has a secret weapon that can take down Superman why didn't they deploy it against Doomsday or Bizarro?
Quote: - Let's see if you can meet this challenge: Take a guess which things Faite nudged along to alter the present so the Carnifex and his bosses are easier to deal with in the future. There are three so far, and only one of them is obvious (one of them happened a long time ago).
I don't think I can meet that challenge. My eye's been off the ball with the PV for the last year what with one thing and another. I don't have the overview I once had.
Quote: Also thinly laid-out plots that I've scrapped or shelved in the last few months:
Quote: - Liu Xi "going rogue". Now she's a complicated person, so she wouldn't just go insane or fight the Lair Legion. Some kind of catalyst would have to convince her that standing idly by is no longer acceptable, and she would start using her power to take matters into her own hands. People would likely get hurt in the process, but only people who deserve it. Of course because of her sentimentality toward the LL, she'd always stay close enough to the curb to avoid having to fight them.
That's an interesting plotline but potentially destructive to the character.
Quote: - Like I briefly mentioned above, some sort of major catalyst causing the Psychic Samurai to lose her temper. That doesn't sound like much until you realize that true to her name, she sees weaknesses in her foes - and because of her training, anger increases her focus dramatically. Which doesn't amount to that much when she's on the defense, but if she goes on the hunt, she becomes very dangerous.
This is where supporting cast really come in handy, both as a motivator for rage and as a means of "talking the hero down".
Quote: For instance I thought it might be ironic if the professional hunter The Carnifex is shaken and worried because of this fairly weak relentless human who will hound him from the shadows and never let him be until she kills him. He'd have to worry about sleeping, drinking beverages and eating, or leaving his home. That's the kind of thing that may occur if he kills Hatman, or any of Chiaki's friends for that matter.
I'm not sure the Carnifex works well in that role. It'd probably only work of she could breach his impregnible tower or find a way of destroying his indestructible person. Then the story stops being about Chiaki and becomes the resolution to the Carnifex story.
Quote: Or another possibility, since you mentioned the Lynchpin, what might happen if Akiko was killed, especially if it was a message to the rest of her organization. Chiaki might just go vigilante, and bodies would start piling up.
I'd avoid doing anything too bad to Vizh's beloved Akiko.
If you're looking at some kind of trigger to justify a Chiaki rampage why not tie it to her protection of the St Jude's Orphanage? A suitably nasty threat to the children there might be a good motivation, if she has to go "dark" to do what's neccessary to save them. We've never really mapped the orphanage's children or cast (except that Mac Fleetwood's an occasional chaplain, G-Eyed's girlfriend Beth used to teach there but doesn't now, and Champagne is a secret contributor of funds). We don't even know the name of the orphanage's director.
Quote: Anyway, the point is, I had a lot of radical ideas, but I've been shelving them as quickly as I've been making them up to avoid making too many waves. Those are the walls I have to work within.
That's the consequences of a shared universe. I guess the Marvel and DC creators must feel the same way sometime.
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Subject: Ha! I think we can make an exception on the start date for such a good opening chapter [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 05:35:45 am EDT (Viewed 3 times) |
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Fantastically fun stuff. The pacing was excellent - and if you intended the drop bear reference to have me laughing out loud well it worked.
I particularly enjoyed the scenes dealing with the LL'ers responding to the call for action (Dancer, Librarian, MS and Visionary).
Very much looking forward to the next part and finding out what nefarious villain is responsible for this.
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Quote: I'm not sure if Liu Xi's going to be in this story, which I hope to keep relatively short with a minimal cast of one character per regular poster. On the other hand it's a natural comment for someone to make.
Then wherever she is, she won't be happy when she hears about it.
Quote: There are other techniques the other LL can use. Hatman could use his Thinking Cap. Dancer could improbably be reminded every minute. The Shoggoth's probably naturally immune because his thought processes are so alien anyway. The rest might have to rely on Hallie or simply have notes tied round their necks.
I'm curious if Anna would be affected at all. The one factor (besides physical construction) that differs her from humans a lot is that she chooses her memories to keep. At the same time, though, it may be that Hallie only has a memory advantage because she stores hers elsewhere, away from the Drop Bears' influence, and Anna's memories are just as prone to corruption.
Quote: I'm lucky there since I created quite a significant proportion of PV cast (over half the characters including villains that appear in Untold Tales were introduced by me) so that gives me plenty of leeway to play with. One reason I encourage posters to develop their own supporting ensembles and their own situations is that it allows them more creative freedom than having to continually reset things to status quo ante.
I did that. Unfortunately when I use my own cast, readership drops to near zero. It's probably my own fault for placing them in unexplored corners of the Parodyverse where they don't usually affect the Lair Legion unless they come in direct contact with them.
Quote: Work-wise I'd like to complete a trilogy of short novels in the next three months. The first is done. The second is 8500 words off completion. The third isn't started. Fortuately I'm ahead of schedule on my contributions to four planned anthologies; those short stories are already turned in. The Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective anthology apparently sold fairly well (the bestselling book the little publishing house Cornerstone have ever had in their ten years existence, so they're keen for a vol 2) so it makes sense to write things for them while they're keen to publish them.
Makes sense to do paying work first. I'd say you're both lucky and brave at this point - because new professional writers sometimes are either slapped with, or afraid of being slapped with, contractual gag orders that prevent them from associating with any non-pro writers. So you're lucky you still can visit and read.
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Quote: So I left the option - in a single scene, Hatman can take Faite's offer and give up his hat-power, retire, and as I believe is in true Hatman style, leave without saying goodbye to start his new life. It beats the other option, which Faite predicted - Hatman being killed first by the Carnifex. Though this might create good motivation for the always cool Psychic Samurai to lose her temper (more on that below) or Liu Xi to go rogue.
Quote: I think we need to give Jay a little more leeway.
He's got the leeway, but I'm trying to cover the bases.
Why? Because historically, posters with high-profile characters who stop visiting the board one day stop by, read a few things, and choose one of two things: Either to hand the character off to the care of the writers here officially, or realize they don't recognize the character anymore, and ask for its retirement. For the moment, we now have both covered.
Hatman isn't the only one in danger of that - we also have Dancer (who nearly permanently moved away in-story already once) and Kerry as well. And, of course, and character too similar in name to ones owned by Marvel or D.C.
Quote: It's a bit like SHIELD expecting that their anti-Thor measures will work.
It's the first rule of government spending. Show something expensive, or lose the funding.
Quote: I'm always a bit sceptical about the law enforcement agencies having tech that can actually take down Hero X. If the government has a secret weapon that can take down Superman why didn't they deploy it against Doomsday or Bizarro?
This is more of a government funded endeavor, weapons development like Anna was - only they consider Anna a failure because she wouldn't accept command.
Quote: I don't think I can meet that challenge. My eye's been off the ball with the PV for the last year what with one thing and another. I don't have the overview I once had.
So far, Faite gave Hatman that choice, which might just save him from the Carnifex' blade - or at the very least, now Hatman is warned that a "hunter" is out to kill him first. Long ago, she gave Liu Xi Xian something that at the very least can keep the universe from being destroyed in extreme cases (or possible cause it). And the simplest and most subtle one, that she and the Hooded Hood may be working on the same page with certain things at the moment.
Quote: That's an interesting plotline but potentially destructive to the character.
It would have to be done in a way so Liu Xi's justifications are *very* hard to argue with. Which is why it hasn't been done yet.
Quote: This is where supporting cast really come in handy, both as a motivator for rage and as a means of "talking the hero down".
The problem is, Chiaki is very hard to push to anger. She's very zen, and becomes more focused under pressure, but hasn't really become angry yet. She has been cornered once, and focused it inward, but hasn't lashed out.
Quote: I'm not sure the Carnifex works well in that role. It'd probably only work of she could breach his impregnible tower or find a way of destroying his indestructible person. Then the story stops being about Chiaki and becomes the resolution to the Carnifex story.
Chiaki can have incredible focus when she's angered - she might not bother to try to get into the tower, just content that she can mess with anything that comes in or out. Or at least giving him the impression that she can. In her opinion, eventually everything has a chink in the armor, and opportunity inevitably presents itself.
The funny thing about that is, I'm not entirely sure if the Carnifex would be annoyed or impressed that someone's relentlessly hunting and stalking him.
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Quote: Or another possibility, since you mentioned the Lynchpin, what might happen if Akiko was killed, especially if it was a message to the rest of her organization. Chiaki might just go vigilante, and bodies would start piling up.
Quote: I'd avoid doing anything too bad to Vizh's beloved Akiko.
I would just wait until the Lynchpin kills her for me. It may be inevitable.
Quote: If you're looking at some kind of trigger to justify a Chiaki rampage why not tie it to her protection of the St Jude's Orphanage? A suitably nasty threat to the children there might be a good motivation, if she has to go "dark" to do what's neccessary to save them. We've never really mapped the orphanage's children or cast (except that Mac Fleetwood's an occasional chaplain, G-Eyed's girlfriend Beth used to teach there but doesn't now, and Champagne is a secret contributor of funds). We don't even know the name of the orphanage's director.
I do remember that Hatman threatened that he was protecting the orphanage.
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Quote: Anyway, the point is, I had a lot of radical ideas, but I've been shelving them as quickly as I've been making them up to avoid making too many waves. Those are the walls I have to work within.
Quote: That's the consequences of a shared universe. I guess the Marvel and DC creators must feel the same way sometime.
Probably.
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Subject: I'm pretty sure Nats' bathroom falls under the regulation of various health, safety and environmental agencies. It really should be out of my jurisdiction. Really. [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Mon Aug 03, 2009 at 11:23:22 am EDT |
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Subject: Dimensional anomaly? No wonder Scrubbing Bubbles didn't work. [Re: Sure, the Hooded Hood's nearly a month early, but he needed to start the story while it was in his head.] Posted Mon Aug 10, 2009 at 06:55:59 pm EDT (Viewed 494 times) |
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Subject: "Wipes 99% of all dimensional anomalies... dead!" [Re: Nats] Posted Sun Aug 16, 2009 at 09:33:39 am EDT |
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Subject: You forget Lisa's 175th revision of the LL charter. [Re: Visionary] Posted Sun Aug 16, 2009 at 09:34:11 am EDT |
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Subject: I'll try and get the finale up for Forest Week [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Sun Aug 16, 2009 at 09:38:11 am EDT |
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> Fantastically fun stuff. The pacing was excellent - and if you intended the drop bear reference to have me laughing out loud well it worked.
Excellent.
I particularly enjoyed the scenes dealing with the LL'ers responding to the call for action (Dancer, Librarian, MS and Visionary).
It seemed appropriate to show the team coming together. it was just a matter of finding an interesting (and brief) way of doing so.
Very much looking forward to the next part and finding out what nefarious villain is responsible for this.
Part two's now in the shops.
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Subject: Re: This is why we have Spoilers flags. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun Aug 16, 2009 at 09:45:05 am EDT (Viewed 1 times) |
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Quote: I'm curious if Anna would be affected at all. The one factor (besides physical construction) that differs her from humans a lot is that she chooses her memories to keep. At the same time, though, it may be that Hallie only has a memory advantage because she stores hers elsewhere, away from the Drop Bears' influence, and Anna's memories are just as prone to corruption.
I'd say you could play it either way and it's still interesting - she's immune because she's sophisticated or she's not immune because she's so human.
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Quote: One reason I encourage posters to develop their own supporting ensembles and their own situations is that it allows them more creative freedom than having to continually reset things to status quo ante.
Quote: I did that. Unfortunately when I use my own cast, readership drops to near zero. It's probably my own fault for placing them in unexplored corners of the Parodyverse where they don't usually affect the Lair Legion unless they come in direct contact with them.
I think you overestimate the pull of the LL core. After all, I'd say the thing you;ve written which has drwn the most positive comment of late is the Shen Rae/cosmic stuff, which doesn't touch on much of the "core" PV at all.
I've found that readers here seem to enjoy seeing new bits of the PV mapped as much as they enjoy revisitng the familiar ones. In my time at the PVB I've introduced plenty of planets and hidden cities and Paradopolis neighbourhoods that have since become familiar places. Maybe you should work on the next set?
Quote: Makes sense to do paying work first. I'd say you're both lucky and brave at this point - because new professional writers sometimes are either slapped with, or afraid of being slapped with, contractual gag orders that prevent them from associating with any non-pro writers. So you're lucky you still can visit and read.
They'd have to give me a good deal more money than they have before they get a say in the rest of my life.
[ Quote: Hatman isn't the only one in danger of that - we also have Dancer (who nearly permanently moved away in-story already once) and Kerry as well. And, of course, and character too similar in name to ones owned by Marvel or D.C.
I'm still hoping Shep will surface. At some point when I've more time I'll check on Jay too.
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Subject: Re: This is why we have Spoilers flags. [Re: HH] Posted Sun Aug 16, 2009 at 12:08:47 pm EDT (Viewed 484 times) |
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Quote: I'd say you could play it either way and it's still interesting - she's immune because she's sophisticated or she's not immune because she's so human.
The risks as a writer though is if Anna isn't either affected, or on her own somewhere, she ends up taking the position of leader by default. While the Lair Legion has short-term memory problems and wanders aimlessly she would be forced to keep them on track.
Quote: I think you overestimate the pull of the LL core. After all, I'd say the thing you;ve written which has drwn the most positive comment of late is the Shen Rae/cosmic stuff, which doesn't touch on much of the "core" PV at all.
I'm going to have to write more of them, but I had to leave some time for the whole trade with Caph situation to simmer for a while. Even so, the *last* time I did a story with Shen Rae, it wasn't nearly as popular. So either it's coincidence or it's growing on people, I'm not sure.
Quote: I've found that readers here seem to enjoy seeing new bits of the PV mapped as much as they enjoy revisitng the familiar ones. In my time at the PVB I've introduced plenty of planets and hidden cities and Paradopolis neighbourhoods that have since become familiar places. Maybe you should work on the next set?
I'm still working on how the forest thing will go. I might exaggerate it into a tropical jungle for some better special effects.
Quote: I'm still hoping Shep will surface. At some point when I've more time I'll check on Jay too.
Noted.
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Subject: Re: This is why we have Spoilers flags. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sat Aug 22, 2009 at 05:32:46 am EDT (Viewed 1 times) |
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Quote: I'd say you could play it either way and it's still interesting - she's immune because she's sophisticated or she's not immune because she's so human.
Quote: The risks as a writer though is if Anna isn't either affected, or on her own somewhere, she ends up taking the position of leader by default. While the Lair Legion has short-term memory problems and wanders aimlessly she would be forced to keep them on track.
I think the LL are coping professionally enough under a heightened weirdness scenario - at least I hope they are since I'm trying to write them that way. It's not their first heightened weirdness.
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Quote: I think you overestimate the pull of the LL core. After all, I'd say the thing you;ve written which has drwn the most positive comment of late is the Shen Rae/cosmic stuff, which doesn't touch on much of the "core" PV at all.
Quote: I'm going to have to write more of them, but I had to leave some time for the whole trade with Caph situation to simmer for a while. Even so, the *last* time I did a story with Shen Rae, it wasn't nearly as popular. So either it's coincidence or it's growing on people, I'm not sure.
I think there's often excitement generated by the "here's something or somewhere you haven't been before" vibe. That said, Shen Rae's now reached the "consolidation" phase of her life as a literary creation. We've been told or shown things about her, her supporting cast, and her regular situation. Now we need to be shown it all again, to fix it in readers minds so that they remember it.
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Quote: I've found that readers here seem to enjoy seeing new bits of the PV mapped as much as they enjoy revisitng the familiar ones. In my time at the PVB I've introduced plenty of planets and hidden cities and Paradopolis neighbourhoods that have since become familiar places. Maybe you should work on the next set?
Quote: I'm still working on how the forest thing will go. I might exaggerate it into a tropical jungle for some better special effects.
Well effected.
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