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Subject: Okay, the Iron Man movie is pretty great. (no spoilers) Posted Thu May 01, 2008 at 10:58:19 pm EDT | ||||
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I went to the 8 o'clock advanced showing tonight. I don't know how well advertised it was that the movie started playing Thursday night, but the theater wasn't a sell out. It was nearly full, however, and everyone seemed to have a good time. Everyone in it did a great job acting, and the character was really faithful to the days before he became an ass. It might be a little tame for some tastes, as there are only a handful of combat scenes, but I didn't mind personally... it had good pacing throughout. I know Marvel is looking to establish the Marvel Universe with their self-financed movies, but after seeing Iron Man, I think it's perfectly situated to remain in it's own little world. This could easily be a James Bond-ish franchise, with Stark thwarting more real-world based would-be dictators and terrorists and such, instead of digging up appropriate comic-book villains for him to fight each outing. Either way, though, they've got me on board for a sequel. I think "The Dark Knight" will have to work to top this as the comic book movie of the summer. Oh, and the new Hulk trailer with this one actually looked much better than that first trailer. | |||||
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Subject: Oh, and for comic fans, there is a scene added after the end credits. [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu May 01, 2008 at 10:59:39 pm EDT | ||||
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CrazySugarFreakBoy! Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235 |
Subject: I'll have to wait until Saturday ... [Re: Visionary] Posted Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:21:52 pm EDT (Viewed 378 times) | ||||
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Hatman Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 1970 Posts: 618 |
Subject: I just got home from the 8:30 showing tonight [Re: Visionary] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:39:34 am EDT (Viewed 402 times) | ||||
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We got there an hour early, and instead of a line we were the first ones there. Not a lot of people seemed to realize there were screenings tonight.
While I could have used one more combat scene, they did such a good job with the character of Tony Stark I didn't mind that it wasn't start-to-finish action.
I saw a trailer for Dark Knight tonight and it really didn't get me excited for the movie, though I definitely want to see it. I'd love for Iron Man to outperform The Dark Knight.
I didn't get the Hulk trailer. I was quite shocked at that actually. ~Hat~ | |||||
Hatman Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 1970 Posts: 618 |
Subject: I am so glad I made my friends wait until the credits were over [Re: Visionary] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:39:59 am EDT (Viewed 351 times) | ||||
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killer shrike always refuses to stay out of principle |
Subject: I hate when movies do this. [Re: Hatman] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:28:31 am EDT | ||||
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Nats Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 85 |
Subject: It was Marvel's best movie since Spider-Man 2. [Re: Visionary] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:00:40 pm EDT (Viewed 357 times) | ||||
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...not that that's a hard feat to achieve. Yeah, I dug it. I don't even *like* Iron Man, and I thought it was cool. And hey, I'm even going to buy an Iron Man comic this month. Exciting times! Didn't get the Hulk trailer; got new ones instead for Indiana Jones and Dark Knight, both of which I am hotly anticipating. | |||||
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Subject: I find it hard to work out the top of the superhero movie charts... [Re: Nats] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:26:24 pm EDT | ||||
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In many ways, Iron Man is superior to both Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins, in that it doesn't have nearly as many pieces to it that simply don't work. There's a lot more that you have to forgive about those two than there is with Iron Man. However, I also feel that it doesn't reach as far or try as hard as those two films either (or the original Superman, for that matter). Still, I'm not surprised to see that after more than 140 reviews counted, Iron Man is the most positively reviewed superhero movie on Rotten Tomatoes.
I find it ironic that here, and with the character of Wolverine, the Hollywood adaptations have managed to unearth the appeal of characters that have had it wrung out of them in the comics themselves, through overuse and misuse.
I got both of those as well (and Narnia, and that Mike Myers movie, and the Adam Sandler one). Neither the Indy nor the Batman trailer did much for me... they were mostly more of the same. I really have no idea what to make of Batman... Some of it looks really good, some of it looks really ridiculous. | |||||
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Subject: Re: I just got home from the 8:30 showing tonight [Re: Hatman] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:51:31 pm EDT | ||||
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Yeah, I've heard from a few sources that the early showings in general weren't exactly packed. I wonder if that will hold through the weekend, or if it really was just poorly advertised. (I know I was surprised to find it playing already, and had just looked at the online movie listings out of curiosity to see if it was having midnight showings. I wouldn't have gone to those, having to work today, but 8pm? Why not?) I know the Hollywood media is asking whether or not Grand Theft Auto 4 will keep a large percentage of would-be Iron Man moviegoers home this weekend. I doubt it, but I'm guessing it won't rocket too high on the all time opening weekend box office charts.
Oh, same here. In truth, he's not in the armor all that often, and yet I didn't really find myself dividing the movie into Tony Stark and Iron Man segments... they were so well integrated. I did find his first offensive use of the armor to be a great sequence that really gets you jazzed for sequels, though.
Yeah, I felt the same way about the new trailer... I'm looking forward to that movie as well. I wasn't instantly in love with Batman Begins, but it grew on me, especially with second (and more) viewings on cable movie channels.
That actually is surprising... but then, I guess the distributor gets to pick the guaranteed trailer attached to prints, and Paramount released Iron Man, while Universal will release The Incredible Hulk. | |||||
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Subject: The scene really doesn't belong in the movie proper anyway. [Re: killer shrike always refuses to stay out of principle] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:56:05 pm EDT | ||||
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Personally, I have no problem with movies offering a little something as enticement for people to watch the trailers and give the cast and crew a little recognition. The scene here, while much meatier than most post-credits bits, wouldn't have worked well within the flow of the movie itself. | |||||
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Subject: Try to avoid spoilers. [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:58:45 pm EDT | ||||
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killer shrike |
Subject: Re: The scene really doesn't belong in the movie proper anyway. [Re: Visionary] Posted Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:11:59 am EDT | ||||
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If they truly cared about giving the cast and crew recognition they'd put the credits at the beginning of the film. To me the whole thing strikes me as coy and silly.
So show it at the end of the movie after a brief fade out. I paid to see the film: I shouldn't have to sit through the credits to get the full experience. | |||||
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Subject: Re: The scene really doesn't belong in the movie proper anyway. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:52:44 am EDT | ||||
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Honestly, I really see no problem with the studio saying "we worked hard on this film... if you stay and let us take our bow, we'll throw a little something in there for you as thanks." It seems a much better solution than forcing everyone to wait through the credits for the movie to start, which may also hurt the pacing and the build up of the start of the film.
In truth, the way this movie ends, the fade-out idea honestly wouldn't work... the two scenes would be horrible back to back. I suppose it comes down to a "glass half full" kind of thing... end credits scenes feel completely like extras to me, rather than part of the film that's being withheld. In any event, I'm sure it'll be on YouTube or something soon enough. | |||||
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Subject: Re: The scene really doesn't belong in the movie proper anyway. [Re: Visionary] Posted Sat May 03, 2008 at 09:26:32 am EDT | ||||
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I do. When I go to a restaurant and order coffee at the end of my meal, I don't have to sit through a long presentation from the waiter where he tells me the name of the chef, the person who put together my salad, the grocer they bought the lettuce from, the brand of stove used to bake my potato, the company that installed the stove that baked my potato, and the songs the house band played during dinner. They just go off to get my coffee. Same situation, different consumable. > It seems a much better solution than forcing everyone to wait through the credits for the movie to start, which may also hurt the pacing and the build up of the start of the film.
I agree. My point was if the studio truly cared about giving those people recognition, that's what they would do.
So a five second lag between scenes wouldn't work, but a five minute one does? Yeah, I don't believe that. | |||||
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Subject: Re: The scene really doesn't belong in the movie proper anyway. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:31:45 am EDT | ||||
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And they bill you extra for the coffee... it's not part of the meal. Occasionally, a restaurant will thank a customer for their patience and understanding by giving them a little something extra, like a free desert or drinks. You want the extra scene, the price is sitting through the credits (or waiting to see it online or on video.)
Well, that assumes that they can only care about either giving people credit or the desires of an impatient audience. If they truly care about both, then the only answer is some form of compromise.
You honestly can't conceive of two scenes that shouldn't be back to back, especially as the end point of a film? Five minutes later, the punch of the ending has had a chance to fade. As I've said from the beginning, the scene doesn't fit into the movie proper... It's the very definition of tacked on. Putting it at the end of the credits is harmless, while making it the last scene of the movie would have been artless. | |||||
killer shrike |
Subject: Re: The scene really doesn't belong in the movie proper anyway. [Re: Visionary] Posted Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:58:22 pm EDT | ||||
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I shouldn't have to pay that price. I paid for a ticket. I'm entitled for the whole movie experience and some director or producer being cute shouldn't deny me that.
Nope. I paid for a ticket, I'm giving them my time. I shouldn't have to slog through credits to see everything they felt was worth showing on the big screen.
Having seen the movie and read spoilers of what happens at the end, I can say it would have been quite easy for them to put them together so people wouldn't have to sit through the credits. I would say the majority of the people in the theater left when I did, and I bet a lot of them didn't even know there was a bonus scene. So by being cute the creators cheated their customers out of seeing the entire product. That's wrong, and the "artists" should be called on it. EDIT: Also, how can you say its not relevant to the movie? Is Stark in it? Yup. Is a previous plot point mentioned? Yup. Can it possibly set the stage for what will happen in the sequels? Or even set up an entire other movie franchsie? Double yup. | |||||
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Subject: But did you like the film? [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:57:22 pm EDT | ||||
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