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killer shrike
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Subject: I realize people are busy with life and work, but damn, can't you take a few minutes and post something? This place is deader than disco! Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 01:31:45 pm EST |
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CrazySugarFreakBoy!
Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235
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Subject: I'm trying to come up with a story, but in the meantime, I haven't exactly been silent ... [Re: killer shrike] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 02:12:55 pm EST (Viewed 489 times) |
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Anime Jason
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Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: As someone who's still posting, I'm going to SURVEY! [Re: killer shrike] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 02:40:59 pm EST (Viewed 489 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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It's pretty obvious that the majority of people who were on this board even a month ago have stopped reading it entirely. Even Ian's mini-post previewing a 2008 event has barely been replied to compared to his usual posts, and mine average 3-4 replies - the normal for World Class, not PV stories. Therefore I'm posting this survey. Of course, like a tree falling in a deserted forest, if nobody's around to read it, I guess it doesn't really exist.
Here's the survey - it has multiple choice and essay questions, but feel free to elaborate on either.
1. I would like:
a) To continue participating in the PVB.
b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
c) To see something worth coming back for.
d) Other (please specify)
2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
a) The world comes to an end.
b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
g) Other (please specify)
3. I don't like this board because:
a) Low participation.
b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
e) Other (please specify)
4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
e) Not safe for work content on the board - I have kids and don't want them to see it.
f) It's too time consuming. If only it would make reading easier by _____________ (specify)
g) I don't like anything posted here anymore.
h) It's been made outdated by Facebook/Myspace (that's where you post my stories now?)
i) Some technological problem (please specify)
h) Other (please specify)
5. I don't reply to stories because:
a) I don't see anything I like.
b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
c) The Parodyverse is childish and I've grown up.
d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
e) I only read Ian's stuff, and if he's not posting I might not come back.
f) The board has made it too difficult to reply.
g) Other (please specify)
6. I don't post new stories because:
a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
b) Lack of replies.
c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
h) Other (please specify)
Note that these responses won't necessarily result in the resurgence or shutdown of the PVB. They may, however, mold the future of the board. One advantage to having our own custom software is it can be changed to keep up with trends - to a point.
If everyone's left the board and gone in different directions, there's not much that can be done. But there are features like dual-linked posts and trackbacks that allow the board to remain a community center without compromising your preference for other sites.
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L!
Location: Seattle, Washington Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,038
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Subject: I will be! [Re: killer shrike] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 03:10:02 pm EST (Viewed 477 times) |
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I got the 2nd part of Chrismahannaqwanza planned out in my head. I just need to get it down on screen & then I'll have something to post.
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L!
Location: Seattle, Washington Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,038
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Subject: Brian answers the SURVEY! [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 03:20:57 pm EST (Viewed 496 times) |
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> 1. I would like:
> a) To continue participating in the PVB.
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But I'm starting to think it's
> b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
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> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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I don't even want to think about this question. But option A (The end of the World) would certainly keep me from coming on by.
> 3. I don't like this board because:
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I don't have an answer because I do not dislike this board.
> 5. I don't reply to stories because:
> b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
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I don't know what's going on for the most part but that's never keep me from replying.
> 6. I don't post new stories because:
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Lack of replies have never stopped my posting, it just makes them less frequent.
I do have a weblog but that hasn't stopped my posting here.
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Rhiannon
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Subject: O.K. (goes and posts) [Re: killer shrike] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 03:29:25 pm EST |
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CrazySugarFreakBoy!
Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235
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Subject: Weighing in. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 03:58:35 pm EST (Viewed 445 times) |
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Here's my thoughts.
> 1. I would like:
> a) To continue participating in the PVB.
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I refuse to give up on this place.
> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
> a) The world comes to an end.
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See above.
> 3. I don't like this board because:
> a) Low participation.
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I still like the board, but I don't like the lack of involvement that a lot of people have with it anymore.
> 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
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Not applicable to me.
> 5. I don't reply to stories because:
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Again, not applicable to me.
> 6. I don't post new stories because:
> h) Other (please specify)
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I'm trying, but my energy for writing Parodyverse stuff seems to be sapped lately, even though I have lots of ideas.
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Manga Shoggoth
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Subject: Replies as I just happen to be online at the moment [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 04:04:57 pm EST |
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Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 on Windows 95
> 1. I would like:
>
> a) To continue participating in the PVB.
> b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
> c) To see something worth coming back for.
> d) Other (please specify)
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a and c. The only reason I am not posting at the moment is that I am at home and my connection is expensive.
My posting at work is limited by, well, work.
> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
>
> a) The world comes to an end.
> b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
> c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
> d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
> e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
> f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
> g) Other (please specify)
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d is the only relavent option here.
> 3. I don't like this board because:
>
> a) Low participation.
> b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
> c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
> d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
> e) Other (please specify)
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Not applicable. I like the place.
> 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
>
> a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
> b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
> c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
> d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
> e) Not safe for work content on the board - I have kids and don't want them to see it.
> f) It's too time consuming. If only it would make reading easier by _____________ (specify)
> g) I don't like anything posted here anymore.
> h) It's been made outdated by Facebook/Myspace (that's where you post my stories now?)
> i) Some technological problem (please specify)
> h) Other (please specify)
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h - I have to be careful at work, and my connection at home is not all that quick.
> 5. I don't reply to stories because:
>
> a) I don't see anything I like.
> b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
> c) The Parodyverse is childish and I've grown up.
> d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
> e) I only read Ian's stuff, and if he's not posting I might not come back.
> f) The board has made it too difficult to reply.
> g) Other (please specify)
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g - I often don't time to read postings, let alone reply.
> 6. I don't post new stories because:
>
> a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
> b) Lack of replies.
> c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
> d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
> e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
> f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
> g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
> h) Other (please specify)
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h - If I don't have time to reply to everything on the board then I don't have time to write.
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spiffy
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Subject: ... and the prize for the board's most depressing survey goes to ... [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 06:00:16 pm EST |
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Posted with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP
>
> It's pretty obvious that the majority of people who were on this board even a month ago have stopped reading it entirely. Even Ian's mini-post previewing a 2008 event has barely been replied to compared to his usual posts, and mine average 3-4 replies - the normal for World Class, not PV stories. Therefore I'm posting this survey. Of course, like a tree falling in a deserted forest, if nobody's around to read it, I guess it doesn't really exist.
>
> Here's the survey - it has multiple choice and essay questions, but feel free to elaborate on either.
>
> 1. I would like:
>
> a) To continue participating in the PVB.
> b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
> c) To see something worth coming back for.
> d) Other (please specify)
>
>
> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
>
> a) The world comes to an end.
> b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
> c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
> d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
> e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
> f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
> g) Other (please specify)
>
>
> 3. I don't like this board because:
>
> a) Low participation.
> b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
> c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
> d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
> e) Other (please specify)
>
>
> 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
>
> a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
> b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
> c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
> d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
> e) Not safe for work content on the board - I have kids and don't want them to see it.
> f) It's too time consuming. If only it would make reading easier by _____________ (specify)
> g) I don't like anything posted here anymore.
> h) It's been made outdated by Facebook/Myspace (that's where you post my stories now?)
> i) Some technological problem (please specify)
> h) Other (please specify)
>
>
> 5. I don't reply to stories because:
>
> a) I don't see anything I like.
> b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
> c) The Parodyverse is childish and I've grown up.
> d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
> e) I only read Ian's stuff, and if he's not posting I might not come back.
> f) The board has made it too difficult to reply.
> g) Other (please specify)
>
>
> 6. I don't post new stories because:
>
> a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
> b) Lack of replies.
> c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
> d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
> e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
> f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
> g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
> h) Other (please specify)
>
>
>
> Note that these responses won't necessarily result in the resurgence or shutdown of the PVB. They may, however, mold the future of the board. One advantage to having our own custom software is it can be changed to keep up with trends - to a point.
>
> If everyone's left the board and gone in different directions, there's not much that can be done. But there are features like dual-linked posts and trackbacks that allow the board to remain a community center without compromising your preference for other sites.
>
>
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CrazySugarFreakBoy!
Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235
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Subject: Supplying some actual answers might be helpful as well. [Re: spiffy] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 06:04:48 pm EST (Viewed 485 times) |
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: Interesting response... [Re: spiffy] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 07:51:28 pm EST (Viewed 413 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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Apple Safari 3.0.4 on MacOS X (0 points)
Is that an "everything's just fine so stop whining" angry response or a "the board's dead, get over it!" angry response?
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: Re: Brian answers the SURVEY! [Re: L!] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 08:09:04 pm EST (Viewed 491 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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Apple Safari 3.0.4 on MacOS X (0 points)
> > 1. I would like:
> > a) To continue participating in the PVB.
>
> But I'm starting to think it's
>
> > b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
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I hope it's not that, but I tend to be oblivious to these things. Or in denial, I'm not sure.
> > 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
>
> I don't even want to think about this question. But option A (The end of the World) would certainly keep me from coming on by.
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Ok.
> > 3. I don't like this board because:
>
> I don't have an answer because I do not dislike this board.
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Good.
> > 5. I don't reply to stories because:
> > b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
>
> I don't know what's going on for the most part but that's never keep me from replying.
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Excellent.
> > 6. I don't post new stories because:
>
> Lack of replies have never stopped my posting, it just makes them less frequent.
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Thanks for trying.
> I do have a weblog but that hasn't stopped my posting here.
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Would in increase your interest in the PVB if we had trackbacks?
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: Re: Weighing in. [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 08:10:38 pm EST (Viewed 516 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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Apple Safari 3.0.4 on MacOS X (0.05 points)
> > 1. I would like:
> > a) To continue participating in the PVB.
>
> I refuse to give up on this place.
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Me too.
> > 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
> > a) The world comes to an end.
>
> See above.
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Same.
> > 3. I don't like this board because:
> > a) Low participation.
>
> I still like the board, but I don't like the lack of involvement that a lot of people have with it anymore.
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Yes, that part saddens me. I wish I knew how to fix it (which is why I posted the survey).
> > 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
>
> Not applicable to me.
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Noted.
> > 5. I don't reply to stories because:
>
> Again, not applicable to me.
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Noted.
> > 6. I don't post new stories because:
> > h) Other (please specify)
>
> I'm trying, but my energy for writing Parodyverse stuff seems to be sapped lately, even though I have lots of ideas.
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Is it the low participation that saps that energy? Or work?
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: Re: Replies as I just happen to be online at the moment [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 08:14:50 pm EST (Viewed 485 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
(10.0.255.1) using
Apple Safari 3.0.4 on MacOS X (1.12 points)
> > 1. I would like:
> >
> > a) To continue participating in the PVB.
> > b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
> > c) To see something worth coming back for.
> > d) Other (please specify)
>
> a and c. The only reason I am not posting at the moment is that I am at home and my connection is expensive.
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I'd like to make (c) happen, but I only have so much power to do so.
> My posting at work is limited by, well, work.
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Noted.
> > 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
> >
> > a) The world comes to an end.
> > b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
> > c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
> > d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
> > e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
> > f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
> > g) Other (please specify)
>
> d is the only relavent option here.
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I hope it doesn't come to that.
> > 3. I don't like this board because:
> >
> > a) Low participation.
> > b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
> > c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
> > d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
> > e) Other (please specify)
>
> Not applicable. I like the place.
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Noted.
> > 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
> >
> > a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
> > b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
> > c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
> > d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
> > e) Not safe for work content on the board - I have kids and don't want them to see it.
> > f) It's too time consuming. If only it would make reading easier by _____________ (specify)
> > g) I don't like anything posted here anymore.
> > h) It's been made outdated by Facebook/Myspace (that's where you post my stories now?)
> > i) Some technological problem (please specify)
> > h) Other (please specify)
>
> h - I have to be careful at work, and my connection at home is not all that quick.
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Is there a way the threads loaded can be improved to make that worthwhile?
> > 5. I don't reply to stories because:
> >
> > a) I don't see anything I like.
> > b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
> > c) The Parodyverse is childish and I've grown up.
> > d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
> > e) I only read Ian's stuff, and if he's not posting I might not come back.
> > f) The board has made it too difficult to reply.
> > g) Other (please specify)
>
> g - I often don't time to read postings, let alone reply.
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Noted. Though I have to ask - is this a time management issue or just one of priorities? For instance are there other sites you visit frequently because you consider it more worthwhile or more acceptable for co-workers to happen to see it?
> > 6. I don't post new stories because:
> >
> > a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
> > b) Lack of replies.
> > c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
> > d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
> > e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
> > f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
> > g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
> > h) Other (please specify)
>
> h - If I don't have time to reply to everything on the board then I don't have time to write.
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Noted.
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Visionary
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Subject: Heya spiff! [Re: spiffy] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 09:42:14 pm EST |
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Posted with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP
> >
> > It's pretty obvious that the majority of people who were on this board even a month ago have stopped reading it entirely. Even Ian's mini-post previewing a 2008 event has barely been replied to compared to his usual posts, and mine average 3-4 replies - the normal for World Class, not PV stories. Therefore I'm posting this survey. Of course, like a tree falling in a deserted forest, if nobody's around to read it, I guess it doesn't really exist.
> >
> > Here's the survey - it has multiple choice and essay questions, but feel free to elaborate on either.
> >
> > 1. I would like:
> >
> > a) To continue participating in the PVB.
> > b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
> > c) To see something worth coming back for.
> > d) Other (please specify)
> >
> >
> > 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
> >
> > a) The world comes to an end.
> > b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
> > c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
> > d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
> > e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
> > f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
> > g) Other (please specify)
> >
> >
> > 3. I don't like this board because:
> >
> > a) Low participation.
> > b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
> > c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
> > d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
> > e) Other (please specify)
> >
> >
> > 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
> >
> > a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
> > b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
> > c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
> > d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
> > e) Not safe for work content on the board - I have kids and don't want them to see it.
> > f) It's too time consuming. If only it would make reading easier by _____________ (specify)
> > g) I don't like anything posted here anymore.
> > h) It's been made outdated by Facebook/Myspace (that's where you post my stories now?)
> > i) Some technological problem (please specify)
> > h) Other (please specify)
> >
> >
> > 5. I don't reply to stories because:
> >
> > a) I don't see anything I like.
> > b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
> > c) The Parodyverse is childish and I've grown up.
> > d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
> > e) I only read Ian's stuff, and if he's not posting I might not come back.
> > f) The board has made it too difficult to reply.
> > g) Other (please specify)
> >
> >
> > 6. I don't post new stories because:
> >
> > a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
> > b) Lack of replies.
> > c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
> > d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
> > e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
> > f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
> > g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
> > h) Other (please specify)
> >
> >
> >
> > Note that these responses won't necessarily result in the resurgence or shutdown of the PVB. They may, however, mold the future of the board. One advantage to having our own custom software is it can be changed to keep up with trends - to a point.
> >
> > If everyone's left the board and gone in different directions, there's not much that can be done. But there are features like dual-linked posts and trackbacks that allow the board to remain a community center without compromising your preference for other sites.
> >
> >
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Visionary
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Subject: I've started a variety of different stories over the last few months. Hopefully I'll be inspired to finish some of them soon. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 09:43:40 pm EST |
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Posted with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP
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Visionary
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Subject: For a "SURVEY!" with exclamation point, it *is* kinda a downer... [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 09:53:10 pm EST |
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> 1. I would like:
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> a) To continue participating in the PVB.
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Whether I'm motivated to write or not, I'm happy to continue interacting with people here.
> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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I don't really have an answer to this one. I don't think I'd *never* leave, but then evidence so far doesn't really back me up on this one. I've posted married, I've posted single, I've posted unemployed, and I've posted overburdened with work. As long as the place seems welcoming and there are new posts, I'll likely be checking them out and responding to them.
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> 3. I don't like this board because:
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I like the board. I'm not sold on the buttons for replying and such yet, I suppose, if I must complain about something. And I'm always sad to see people go.
> 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
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Not applicable.
> 5. I don't reply to stories because:
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Not applicable.
> 6. I don't post new stories because:
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New stories take a great deal of effort for me to write. When the board dips into periods of apathy, I can't sustain the enthusiasm necessary to finish one. When the board is jumping, I feed off the rest of the creative energy and add to it.
So I'm a bit of a leech.
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: It's the only way to get the truth... [Re: Visionary] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 12:25:34 pm EST (Viewed 488 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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I know the survey is a downer, but every time I post one of those "what would encourage you to participate more" posts? Ironically, nobody replies. So now I've changed to trying to figure out why people are leaving, thinking of leaving, or why they left. At least maybe they'll stop by long enough to educate us.
> > 1. I would like:
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> > a) To continue participating in the PVB.
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> Whether I'm motivated to write or not, I'm happy to continue interacting with people here.
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Me too.
> > 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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> I don't really have an answer to this one. I don't think I'd *never* leave, but then evidence so far doesn't really back me up on this one. I've posted married, I've posted single, I've posted unemployed, and I've posted overburdened with work. As long as the place seems welcoming and there are new posts, I'll likely be checking them out and responding to them.
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As I said before, I tend to be either oblivious or in denial. I'll keep posting until I realize I'm the only one left.
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> > 3. I don't like this board because:
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> I like the board. I'm not sold on the buttons for replying and such yet, I suppose, if I must complain about something. And I'm always sad to see people go.
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The buttons were supposed to solve the problem of the links being gigantic on certain browsers when they're text, spilling into other columns. The buttons are a uniform size. I'm just not very good at making buttons (these are ripped off from Safari and edited slightly).
> > 6. I don't post new stories because:
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> New stories take a great deal of effort for me to write. When the board dips into periods of apathy, I can't sustain the enthusiasm necessary to finish one. When the board is jumping, I feed off the rest of the creative energy and add to it.
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> So I'm a bit of a leech.
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Are you hinting that I should write better and more inspiring stories?
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killer shrike
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Subject: Survey says [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 12:42:31 pm EST |
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Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 on Windows Vista
> 1. I would like:
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> a) To continue participating in the PVB.
> b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
> c) To see something worth coming back for.
> d) Other (please specify)
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C. My enjoyment for the board comes from the community aspect of it. I'm not seeing that anymore because there's little communication (replies) to people's posts and even fewer stories that serve as the frameowrk for the site.
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> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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> a) The world comes to an end.
> b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
> c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
> d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
> e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
> f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
> g) Other (please specify)
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G. if the response to my post was only answered by the few diehards who struggle to keep this place spinning. And it was.
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> 3. I don't like this board because:
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> a) Low participation.
> b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
> c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
> d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
> e) Other (please specify)
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A. As I said above
> 6. I don't post new stories because:
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> a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
> b) Lack of replies.
> c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
> d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
> e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
> f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
> g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
> h) Other (please specify)
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B. If Adam's a leech I guess I'm a diva. Writing stories is work for me, and if the reply rate is low and people aren't making the effort to tell their own tales (again, outside those few diehards) then I'm not going to go through the chore of trying to put something together either.
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CrazySugarFreakBoy!
Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235
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Subject: And as long as you're here ... [Re: L!] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 02:14:10 pm EST (Viewed 490 times) |
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... Jason and Rhiannon, among others, have posted some fun stories to which you might want to reply.
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Manga Shoggoth
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Subject: ...On line again, due to circumstances beyond my control... [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 03:39:35 pm EST |
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Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 on Windows 95
Bloody viruses - had to rebuild my system, now have to download the AV updates. Again.
> > h - I have to be careful at work, and my connection at home is not all that quick.
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> Is there a way the threads loaded can be improved to make that worthwhile?
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I don't think so. The only thing that can be done is to load the images last (which I think you already do).
> Noted. Though I have to ask - is this a time management issue or just one of priorities? For instance are there other sites you visit frequently because you consider it more worthwhile or more acceptable for co-workers to happen to see it?
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It's time management in that I can only do this sort of thing in the gaps between jobs.
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HH still has his Travolta suit
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Subject: I'll see what I can do for the weekend. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 04:17:08 pm EST |
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HH
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Subject: Meanwhile, a web link: If Al B. Harper designed a pocket-knife... [Re: HH still has his Travolta suit] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 04:18:30 pm EST |
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Visionary scratches it off his Christmas list...
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Subject: Yikes! Would Al charge $1000 for his too? [Re: HH] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 05:57:37 pm EST |
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CrazySugarFreakBoy!
Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235
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Subject: An actual toolkit would cost less, and take up less space. [Re: HH] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 06:00:29 pm EST (Viewed 464 times) |
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Nats
Member Since: Thu Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 85
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Subject: e.) Stop whining. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 06:56:01 pm EST (Viewed 516 times) |
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> It's pretty obvious that the majority of people who were on this board even a month ago have stopped reading it entirely. Even Ian's mini-post previewing a 2008 event has barely been replied to compared to his usual posts, and mine average 3-4 replies - the normal for World Class, not PV stories. Therefore I'm posting this survey. Of course, like a tree falling in a deserted forest, if nobody's around to read it, I guess it doesn't really exist.
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> Here's the survey - it has multiple choice and essay questions, but feel free to elaborate on either.
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> 1. I would like:
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> a) To continue participating in the PVB.
> b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
> c) To see something worth coming back for.
> d) Other (please specify)
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...to have some free time.
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> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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> a) The world comes to an end.
> b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
> c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
> d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
> e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
> f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
> g) Other (please specify)
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...I suffer amnesia or a meteor hits.
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> 3. I don't like this board because:
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> a) Low participation.
> b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
> c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
> d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
> e) Other (please specify)
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...they whine too much about their own doom.
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> 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
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> a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
> b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
> c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
> d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
> e) Not safe for work content on the board - I have kids and don't want them to see it.
> f) It's too time consuming. If only it would make reading easier by _____________ (specify)
> g) I don't like anything posted here anymore.
> h) It's been made outdated by Facebook/Myspace (that's where you post my stories now?)
> i) Some technological problem (please specify)
> h) Other (please specify)
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...I'm busy as hell.
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> 5. I don't reply to stories because:
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> a) I don't see anything I like.
> b) I have no clue what's going on and don't care anymore.
> c) The Parodyverse is childish and I've grown up.
> d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
> e) I only read Ian's stuff, and if he's not posting I might not come back.
> f) The board has made it too difficult to reply.
> g) Other (please specify)
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Honestly, probably (b). I've lost track to the point where it doesn't matter.
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> 6. I don't post new stories because:
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> a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
> b) Lack of replies.
> c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
> d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
> e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
> f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
> g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
> h) Other (please specify)
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A bit of (g)-- I write a (supposedly) daily column at Comics Should Be Good, and I don't know if anyone here reads it-- and (h) I've been working on other fictions and bits and pieces for class and such, and am pursuing writing actual comics, and don't have much time to devote to PV writing because I also try to have some semblance of a life, though it's laughable at best.
The board's still my homepage and I check in all the time. I just don't speak up much-- sometimes because I feel no one would listen anyway, and other times because I can't be arsed.
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Scott
Location: Southwest US Member Since: Sun Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 326
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Subject: LOOK! SCOTT'S STILL ALIVE! [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 01:31:20 am EST (Viewed 494 times) |
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Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP
> 1. I would like:
> d) Other (please specify)
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I wish I could participate but I may be too far gone. I'm slipping in the black hole that got Falcon, RR and so many.
> 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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> a) The world comes to an end.
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I still check this place. I'm sorry I'm silent.
> 3. I don't like this board because:
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> e) Other (please specify)
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I DO like this place. Life is busy. It will remain so. I'm finally doing well in my job. A job that bans the PV for being a "porn site". This is a government job and I wont put it on the line by defending a personal non-work site so I can see it for the 20 minutes of web time I'm allowed by company policy.
At home it's family time. The little time I do have is very small. Not enough to read anything. I'm so behind I couldn't catch up without spending more time in front of the screen and little time with my kids.
> 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
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> a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
> b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
> c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
> d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
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All those above. The reasons I just mentioned.
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> 5. I don't reply to stories because:
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If I haven’t read, I can't reply.
> 6. I don't post new stories because:
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See above.
> d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
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> c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
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Please don't think this of me guys. I'm still in the trenches. I haven’t had any word on my first book and I have reason to believe the second has a long way to go with its edits. I'm not a pro. I'm still a wanna be.
If for some strange event I do get published, I would still look in, post once in awhile and always credit you guys. But that's assuming a miracle happens and someone gives me a break. Come on. It's me we're talking about. That will never happen.
I love this place.
I'm only gone for the reasons above. I'm sorry. I'm not really gone and I'm ashamed because I owe you all so many stories. Stories that I just can't tell anymore.
I tried explaining this months ago but no one bothered to respond. That helped.
Anyway. I'm here, even if it's just as a ghost.
Scott
NIGHT CHILDREN: THE BLOG.
Come see!
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: Re: Survey says [Re: killer shrike] Posted Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 02:15:42 am EST (Viewed 471 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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> > 1. I would like:
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> > a) To continue participating in the PVB.
> > b) For the PVB to admit it died long ago and finally close.
> > c) To see something worth coming back for.
> > d) Other (please specify)
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> C. My enjoyment for the board comes from the community aspect of it. I'm not seeing that anymore because there's little communication (replies) to people's posts and even fewer stories that serve as the frameowrk for the site.
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Noted.
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> > 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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> > a) The world comes to an end.
> > b) I already have left, I'm just stopping in to tell you why this survey is beating a dead horse.
> > c) It's confirmed that Ian isn't coming back.
> > d) It's agreed among the remaining members that it's time for it to go.
> > e) There is a newer/better/busier place to post (please specify if you have left for one)
> > f) CSFB! keeps posting not-safe-for-work material.
> > g) Other (please specify)
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> G. if the response to my post was only answered by the few diehards who struggle to keep this place spinning. And it was.
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Take a look at my last few posts.
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> > 3. I don't like this board because:
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> > a) Low participation.
> > b) Recent changes that make it too ugly or too difficult to use.
> > c) Outdated technology trumped at another board (specify: "I need xxxx feature to survive")
> > d) Small group makes my posts too obvious and I don't want to lose my job over it.
> > e) Other (please specify)
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> A. As I said above
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Noted.
> > 6. I don't post new stories because:
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> > a) I don't care to participate in such a small venue.
> > b) Lack of replies.
> > c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
> > d) The board has made it too difficult to post new stories.
> > e) I have a family now and the content isn't suitable for my kids.
> > f) I post my stuff to Myspace/Facebook (or other place) for a better audience.
> > g) I have my own weblog and only post there.
> > h) Other (please specify)
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> B. If Adam's a leech I guess I'm a diva. Writing stories is work for me, and if the reply rate is low and people aren't making the effort to tell their own tales (again, outside those few diehards) then I'm not going to go through the chore of trying to put something together either.
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I have that problem too, except rather than just say "if they don't think I'm good enough I'll go elsewhere"...I don't have an elsewhere, so I just become saddened by it.
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: That's part of the problem. [Re: Nats] Posted Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 02:20:28 am EST (Viewed 521 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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I'm trying to bring this out into the open specifically because saying "Everything's fine, stop whining" until everyone really is gone, then it'll be too late.
> A bit of (g)-- I write a (supposedly) daily column at Comics Should Be Good, and I don't know if anyone here reads it-- and (h) I've been working on other fictions and bits and pieces for class and such, and am pursuing writing actual comics, and don't have much time to devote to PV writing because I also try to have some semblance of a life, though it's laughable at best.
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This I think is the most interesting part. One of the purposes of this survey is to try and figure out, first, which people have no plans to come back no matter what happens (and I can't do much about that.
But second, I also want to find all the people who have weblogs and believe if we want to read your stories we'd visit your blog and read them there instead of being dependent on the PVB. Because that is something that it may be possible to solve technologically without any effort on your part (unless it's a syndicated column, then we'd have copyright to deal with).
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Anime Jason
Owner
Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834
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Subject: Re: LOOK! SCOTT'S STILL ALIVE! [Re: Scott] Posted Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 02:24:32 am EST (Viewed 483 times) |
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anime.mangacool.net
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> > 1. I would like:
> > d) Other (please specify)
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> I wish I could participate but I may be too far gone. I'm slipping in the black hole that got Falcon, RR and so many.
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What black hole is that?
> > d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
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> > c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
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> Please don't think this of me guys. I'm still in the trenches. I haven’t had any word on my first book and I have reason to believe the second has a long way to go with its edits. I'm not a pro. I'm still a wanna be.
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> If for some strange event I do get published, I would still look in, post once in awhile and always credit you guys. But that's assuming a miracle happens and someone gives me a break. Come on. It's me we're talking about. That will never happen.
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I added that option not just for you, there are a couple others who drop in to promote things they've done but otherwise don't read or post. Of course being fair, that can happen for a variety of reasons: Time demands of being a professional author; Reputability - because some publishers simply won't trust someone who's on a tiny message board; and legal/promotional issues, where the publisher or agent tells you to keep off the 'net to avoid unnecessary or unflattering exposure.
As for work, I can't do anything about that. I would like to know what brand of firewall software they have so I can contact the vendor and see why my site's on their list. Of course it may just be because your workplace uses a "whitelist" instead, and only allows certain specific authorized sites.
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Visionary misses having you around more.
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Subject: Sorry to hear you're not likely to come back more often, but I'm glad your job is going well! [Re: Scott] Posted Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 08:48:17 am EST |
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> > 1. I would like:
> > d) Other (please specify)
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> I wish I could participate but I may be too far gone. I'm slipping in the black hole that got Falcon, RR and so many.
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> > 2. I left, will leave, or may leave the PVB if:
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> > a) The world comes to an end.
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> I still check this place. I'm sorry I'm silent.
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> > 3. I don't like this board because:
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> > e) Other (please specify)
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> I DO like this place. Life is busy. It will remain so. I'm finally doing well in my job. A job that bans the PV for being a "porn site". This is a government job and I wont put it on the line by defending a personal non-work site so I can see it for the 20 minutes of web time I'm allowed by company policy.
> At home it's family time. The little time I do have is very small. Not enough to read anything. I'm so behind I couldn't catch up without spending more time in front of the screen and little time with my kids.
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> > 4. I don't visit the board anymore because:
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> > a) It's blocked at work and I don't have time at home.
> > b) I take my work seriously and don't want to get fired for visiting an illegal site.
> > c) My work records every site/email and it's not worth being fired over.
> > d) Not safe for work content on the board - I don't want to get fired.
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> All those above. The reasons I just mentioned.
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> > 5. I don't reply to stories because:
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> If I haven’t read, I can't reply.
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> > 6. I don't post new stories because:
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> See above.
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> > d) I've become a professional author and I can't have my name on amateur stuff, even as a reply.
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> > c) I've become a professional author and I can't write amateur stuff anymore.
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> Please don't think this of me guys. I'm still in the trenches. I haven’t had any word on my first book and I have reason to believe the second has a long way to go with its edits. I'm not a pro. I'm still a wanna be.
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> If for some strange event I do get published, I would still look in, post once in awhile and always credit you guys. But that's assuming a miracle happens and someone gives me a break. Come on. It's me we're talking about. That will never happen.
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> I love this place.
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> I'm only gone for the reasons above. I'm sorry. I'm not really gone and I'm ashamed because I owe you all so many stories. Stories that I just can't tell anymore.
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> I tried explaining this months ago but no one bothered to respond. That helped.
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> Anyway. I'm here, even if it's just as a ghost.
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