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Manga Shoggoth Member Since: Fri Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 391 |
Subject: Jason, I hate to complain, but... Posted Mon Nov 19, 2007 at 08:16:47 am EST (Viewed 382 times) | |||
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...Can we lose the mystery meat navigation - or at the very least have the words visible on the screen as well? I know that you are using the ALT tag, but that ONLY works on the mouseover event. | ||||
Anime Jason   Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Nobody really hates to complain. [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Mon Nov 19, 2007 at 02:22:11 pm EST (Viewed 380 times) | |||
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 3.0.4 on MacOS X (0 points) > ...Can we lose the mystery meat navigation - or at the very least have the words visible on the screen as well? The icons you see were for the most part borrowed and I didn't really do much alterations to them yet.  I might try to see if I can add really small yet clean type to them as labels. Originally the point to switching to icons was to fix two problems:  a) The text links looking gigantic on IE for Windows, and b) which is related to (a), the text links spilling into two lines or pushing around other elements. Actually, if anyone cares to comment, would you rather have text inside the buttons or a switch to color-coded buttons that remain consistent throughout?  For instance New Post would always be blue, Edit would always be green, etc.  The symbol would remain but colors are actually easier to see than text.
It's actually the "Title" tag which should show up faster than "Alt".  Supposedly anyway. | ||||
CrazySugarFreakBoy! Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235 |
Subject: Regardless of which coding system you use ... [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Nov 19, 2007 at 05:46:11 pm EST (Viewed 379 times) | |||
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... Whether it be icons, colors or whatever, there's really no way around the fact that you'll also need some form of text onscreen (even before you move your mouse over the "buttons") or else it's simply going to be confusing and off-putting for people. I think this is the only message board I've ever seen that has "buttons" with no text. | ||||
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: I replaced 3 of the icons... [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 02:07:17 am EST (Viewed 380 times) | |||
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 3.0.4 on MacOS X (0 points)
The 3 most unclear icons (new, reply, delete) have been replaced with ones that have both color and text. I hope it makes them easier to use. | ||||
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CrazySugarFreakBoy! Member Since: Sun Jan 04, 2004 Posts: 1,235 |
Subject: Thank you. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:08:54 am EST (Viewed 369 times) | |||
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If it was up to me, I'd replace the Edit and Mail buttons with text, as well, because the Edit button looks kind of like the sort of button I commonly see to send e-mail, whereas the Mail button looks more like a photo attachment button. Indeed, I can't speak for anyone else here, but if you have the option to just use text in all your buttons, rather than icons, I think that'd be the simplest. | ||||
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Manga Shoggoth Member Since: Fri Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 391 |
Subject: That's why I use sarcasm as a teaching tool at work. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:44:14 am EST (Viewed 377 times) | |||
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The practical ins and outs of developing a user interface are, well, legion. You have to be really careful when dealing with colours (if only for the problem of colour-blindness). Icons can be a pain in the arse for a number of reasons (size, readability, interpretation). Nearly every professional site that I have dealt with uses text (or text buttons). If you have time (or want a laugh - some of the bad designs are hilarious), you might want to visit Web Pages that Suck.
"Supposedly Faster" - coming to a computer near you. (I'm doing one of my twice-weekly 2.5 day database loads at the moment...) | ||||
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Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: That's all some people understand. [Re: Manga Shoggoth] Posted Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 12:01:40 pm EST (Viewed 398 times) | |||
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 3.0.4 on MacOS X (0.14 points)
The only reason the icons are the size and shape they are is because I don't know how to make glasslike buttons so I borrowed a few and pasted stuff onto them. The buttons are easily replaceable though.  And soon I'm going to experiment with grouping them so they're easier to figure out.
Ironically, that web site sucks.
It's faster in Safari.  Instead of the mouseover delay that happens with "alt", "title" shows up almost immediately. | ||||
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Manga Shoggoth Member Since: Fri Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 391 |
Subject: You are grossly overestimating my users here. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 04:35:06 am EST (Viewed 392 times) | |||
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There's no irony at all. They admit it sucks. |
