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Subject: #335: Untold Tales of the Carnifex: Dinner and a Show Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 02:01:43 pm EST (Viewed 39 times) | |
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Subject: Comments [Re: The Hooded Hood finally manages to post this more-than-double-sized special] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 03:00:23 pm EST (Viewed 7 times) | |
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Quick note: is Hatman supposed to be in the original vision of the LL's dinner? I'm assuming not, since he's mentioned as being MIA, yet he's one of the heroes to attack the Carnifex Quite an enjoyable story. I was a bit surprised by how the Legion found out the Carnifex was more than he seemed. I really don't recall Flapjack witnessing that earlier exchange between Mark and Doorman, and assumed the Caphan prophetess would play a larger role in his outing. The scenes from a dead planet were well done. It will be interesting to see how they get out of their situation, especially given the apparant first step in Chiaki's plan. EEE, as always steals the show with their scene. Inluding one of the Bonsai Kittens was a nice touch. And I'm quite interested in reading how HH and Hatty assembled this Lost Legion that's about to put the wood to Misters Skinner and Flay. | ||
HH |
Subject: Re: Comments [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 03:46:21 pm EST (Viewed 8 times) | |
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Quote: Quick note: is Hatman supposed to be in the original vision of the LL's dinner? I'm assuming not, since he's mentioned as being MIA, yet he's one of the heroes to attack the CarnifexNope, it was a error. Now it's fixed. But you have to explain the boo boo to win a no-prize. Quote: Quite an enjoyable story. I was a bit surprised by how the Legion found out the Carnifex was more than he seemed. I really don't recall Flapjack witnessing that earlier exchange between Mark and Doorman, and assumed the Caphan prophetess would play a larger role in his outing.He spotted it in an epilogue of Saving the Future. Vespiir's whereabout in the eight hours before the fight have yet to be revealed. Quote: The scenes from a dead planet were well done. It will be interesting to see how they get out of their situation, especially given the apparant first step in Chiaki's plan.The danger is that that situation will overshadow the others. Quote: EEE, as always steals the show with their scene. Inluding one of the Bonsai Kittens was a nice touch.I was tempted to include all three. Quote: And I'm quite interested in reading how HH and Hatty assembled this Lost Legion that's about to put the wood to Misters Skinner and Flay.Well, perhaps there are some tie-in stories to be written. | ||
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Subject: Re: Comments [Re: HH] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 04:00:13 pm EST (Viewed 7 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Quick note: is Hatman supposed to be in the original vision of the LL's dinner? I'm assuming not, since he's mentioned as being MIA, yet he's one of the heroes to attack the CarnifexQuote: Nope, it was a error. Now it's fixed. But you have to explain the boo boo to win a no-prize.Hallie created a hologram of Jay to mess with the Carnifex's mind? Quote: Quote: Quite an enjoyable story. I was a bit surprised by how the Legion found out the Carnifex was more than he seemed. I really don't recall Flapjack witnessing that earlier exchange between Mark and Doorman, and assumed the Caphan prophetess would play a larger role in his outing.Quote: He spotted it in an epilogue of Saving the Future. Vespiir's whereabout in the eight hours before the fight have yet to be revealed.Fair enough. Quote: Quote: The scenes from a dead planet were well done. It will be interesting to see how they get out of their situation, especially given the apparant first step in Chiaki's plan.Quote: The danger is that that situation will overshadow the others.Well, they all seem to be equally omnious, though the EEE staff tends to be a bit more flippant in how they deal with catastrophic situations, so it just seems like they aren't in deep doo doo. Quote: Quote: EEE, as always steals the show with their scene. Inluding one of the Bonsai Kittens was a nice touch.Quote: I was tempted to include all three.Why didn't you? Cody wouldn't have minded, I'm sure, unless there's a problem with stray hairs on the sheets. Quote: Quote: And I'm quite interested in reading how HH and Hatty assembled this Lost Legion that's about to put the wood to Misters Skinner and Flay.Quote: Well, perhaps there are some tie-in stories to be written.If you can get tie-ins from most of those surprise guest stars I will be more impressed than I usually am with your efforts. | ||
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Subject: Everyone at their best. [Re: The Hooded Hood finally manages to post this more-than-double-sized special] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 04:05:21 pm EST (Viewed 7 times) | |
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The way the story jumped around times was fun, and propably the only way you could have told that story. It reminded me of UT 193 which also started with the LL being horribly masacered but then went in a very different direction as, instead of then going backwards to show the steps leading to doom, it went back, forwards and sideways to show how the heroes (and Hooded Hood) had prepared and why they weren't going to be horribly masacred after all. It sort of made me think of watching a 3D chess match which I'm not even sure exists so I'm not sure why. Propably because I'm so tired I was seeing stuff on the way home. The Carnifex has prepared very well but that "enemies you can't see" thing is definately starting to bother him. Hopefully it won't stop. We still haven't seen what Xander's been up to. The various plots against the Carnifex so far appear isolated, the Hooded Hood's, Mumphrey's and Samantha's (via Vespiir) are the only ones I can think of now but it will be interesting when they link up, unless they're already linked. By the way, are you setting up a motive for the Librarean leaving the Legion, I imagine he'll feel bad about this. It's good to be home. | ||
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Subject: We never seem to have a nice evening out anymore. [Re: The Hooded Hood finally manages to post this more-than-double-sized special] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 04:42:21 pm EST (Viewed 442 times) | |
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Well, you've certainly pulled in the epic cast for the big throwdown between predator and prey. You're quite good at making me hate these nigh-omnipotent conquerors, and the opening with the Carnifex toasting the team was no exception. Quite the sick and depraved puppy he is, and it'll be difficult for him to suitably pay for his crimes. I'll keep my fingers crossed that we beat him and survive, at least. The surviving part is key. I liked the check-ins on the different teams and groupings. I'm looking forward to seeing how Vespiir's story plays out... there's a great deal of urgency to her part in things. Hopefully her ordeals won't be for nothing, and she'll get the message through. Of course, the message seems to be leaking out in other areas as well, with Flapjack able to warn Mumph and the Librarian's inner circle knowing the truth too. (Loved the Moo cameo, btw, even if she remained in the dark.) There were moments of fun to be had as well, especially with the EEE crowd. So Cody is a cat fancier, eh? I can't say that I blame him; Tigra always filled out a bikini well. Of course, I'm also allergic to cats, which is probably for the best considering the amount of "Three's Company" style misunderstanding that drag Vizh under. Glad to see it shifting to a new generation. I also enjoyed the lighthouse scenes, and the interaction between the kids. Bringing back the Nanny makes perfect sense in this situation, as I wondered how you were going to deal with a threat that grave focusing on the children themselves. Looking forward to the throwdown over at the Hastings place as well... All in all, quite the dinner party so far... I can't wait to see how things go from here! | ||
HH |
Subject: Everyone? [Re: Rhiannon] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 05:24:07 pm EST (Viewed 8 times) | |
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Quote: The way the story jumped around times was fun, and propably the only way you could have told that story. It reminded me of UT 193 which also started with the LL being horribly masacered but then went in a very different direction as, instead of then going backwards to show the steps leading to doom, it went back, forwards and sideways to show how the heroes (and Hooded Hood) had prepared and why they weren't going to be horribly masacred after all.Yes, I was worried as I wrote it that the technique might be too similar. In my defence, UT#193 wasn't about "how we got ready to beat the villain beforehand" so much as "How we argued about going off to die at the villains hands beforehand"; at least from what I recall of it. it;s been a while. Quote: It sort of made me think of watching a 3D chess match which I'm not even sure exists so I'm not sure why. Propably because I'm so tired I was seeing stuff on the way home.What stuff were you seeing? What had you been consuming beforehand? Quote: The Carnifex has prepared very well but that "enemies you can't see" thing is definately starting to bother him. Hopefully it won't stop. We still haven't seen what Xander's been up to.Noted. Quote: The various plots against the Carnifex so far appear isolated, the Hooded Hood's, Mumphrey's and Samantha's (via Vespiir) are the only ones I can think of now but it will be interesting when they link up, unless they're already linked. Quote: By the way, are you setting up a motive for the Librarean leaving the Legion, I imagine he'll feel bad about this.It was in my thoughts that if L! wants to move Lee out of the spotlight this could be one starting point. Quote: It's good to be home.So you mentioned. | ||
HH |
Subject: I gather the entre was quite delicious. [Re: Visionary] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 06:50:06 pm EST (Viewed 8 times) | |
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Quote: Well, you've certainly pulled in the epic cast for the big throwdown between predator and prey. You're quite good at making me hate these nigh-omnipotent conquerors, and the opening with the Carnifex toasting the team was no exception. Quite the sick and depraved puppy he is, and it'll be difficult for him to suitably pay for his crimes. I'll keep my fingers crossed that we beat him and survive, at least. The surviving part is key.Gloating is a very important part of superhero comics. People underestimate gloating as a dramatic neccessity. Quote: I liked the check-ins on the different teams and groupings. I'm looking forward to seeing how Vespiir's story plays out... there's a great deal of urgency to her part in things. Hopefully her ordeals won't be for nothing, and she'll get the message through. Of course, the message seems to be leaking out in other areas as well, with Flapjack able to warn Mumph and the Librarian's inner circle knowing the truth too. (Loved the Moo cameo, btw, even if she remained in the dark.)Vespiir's story is only just beginning. As for the Carnifex, the tighter he squeezes the more of the Parodyverse leaks through his fist. We really need Daio to do a tie in right now regarding the lab accident. Could you pass the word? Quote: There were moments of fun to be had as well, especially with the EEE crowd. So Cody is a cat fancier, eh? I can't say that I blame him; Tigra always filled out a bikini well. Of course, I'm also allergic to cats, which is probably for the best considering the amount of "Three's Company" style misunderstanding that drag Vizh under. Glad to see it shifting to a new generation.I'm not sure how much misunderstanding there was, really. It's more like a single entendre. Quote: I also enjoyed the lighthouse scenes, and the interaction between the kids. Bringing back the Nanny makes perfect sense in this situation, as I wondered how you were going to deal with a threat that grave focusing on the children themselves. Looking forward to the throwdown over at the Hastings place as well...The technical problem I had was that I needed to show how nasty the Carnifex was by having his minions go after the wider cast without having the whole wider cast slaughtered or making the minions seem incompetent. I hope I've struck a balance. Quote: All in all, quite the dinner party so far... I can't wait to see how things go from here!I've set myself a tricky one to resolve. I should really start thinking of a way to finish this. | ||
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Subject: Re: Comments [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 06:53:35 pm EST (Viewed 10 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Quick note: is Hatman supposed to be in the original vision of the LL's dinner? I'm assuming not, since he's mentioned as being MIA, yet he's one of the heroes to attack the CarnifexQuote: Quote: Nope, it was a error. Now it's fixed. But you have to explain the boo boo to win a no-prize.Quote: Hallie created a hologram of Jay to mess with the Carnifex's mind?That was probably it, yes. Quote: Well, they all seem to be equally omnious, though the EEE staff tends to be a bit more flippant in how they deal with catastrophic situations, so it just seems like they aren't in deep doo doo.Plus they're recovering from a major party. Al B. really needs to write that tie-in stat. Quote: Quote: Quote: EEE, as always steals the show with their scene. Inluding one of the Bonsai Kittens was a nice touch.Quote: Quote: I was tempted to include all three.Quote: Why didn't you? Cody wouldn't have minded, I'm sure, unless there's a problem with stray hairs on the sheets.I'm not too clear on the personalities of all three to be confident they'd do that. If Al wants me to edit it in then I'm happy to do so. Quote: Quote: Quote: And I'm quite interested in reading how HH and Hatty assembled this Lost Legion that's about to put the wood to Misters Skinner and Flay.Quote: Quote: Well, perhaps there are some tie-in stories to be written.Quote: If you can get tie-ins from most of those surprise guest stars I will be more impressed than I usually am with your efforts.I've discussed a tie-in with at least two of them. We'll have to see what happens. | ||
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Subject: The show was good but dinner? Yeech... [Re: The Hooded Hood finally manages to post this more-than-double-sized special] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 07:19:34 pm EST (Viewed 519 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.07 points) Looks like the plans of the Carnifex fell through, but then again, with his kind of power he's a master of contingencies. So the Hooded Hood's plan comes down to one servant who is for the most part ignored by everyone. That's the kind of plan that Faite would design - one tiny thing that the big bad misses because it falls way below his radar. The Librarian's council is right. If that kind of information leaks out from the personal files that were probably contributed by the Trading Alliance, it's quite likely some very powerful forces would attack Earth to subdue the Carnifex. The kind of powerful forces that don't care if they have to blow up the entire planet to make sure they get him. Chiaki's plan is problematic on so many levels. One of which, of course, is that most of her companions won't be able to do it. Liu Xi doesn't want to live with any more deaths caused by her. Anna is developing quite a powerful conscience so that she's about as gentle as a butterfly. Lara *might* do it, but only if she's sure she can save Chiaki's life at the last minute somehow. But, Lara is also the one most likely to come up with an alternative, if Chiaki just tells her why she thinks she has to die to make her plan work. For instance Lara can "vaporise" her into energy, which is completely reversible (it's the way she brings guests along when she teleports far away), stop the Samurai's heart temporarily like in that movie Flatliners, or Lara can offer to take Chiaki's place, since she's naturally resilient and resistant to being killed. | ||
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Subject: I hope it wasn't anyone we'd know. [Re: HH] Posted Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 08:38:34 pm EST (Viewed 452 times) | |
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Quote: Gloating is a very important part of superhero comics. People underestimate gloating as a dramatic neccessity.Really... think how much it would help with the ratings for the Olympics. I think there's a little of that in figure skating, but it might instead just be bitchiness. Quote: Vespiir's story is only just beginning. As for the Carnifex, the tighter he squeezes the more of the Parodyverse leaks through his fist. We really need Daio to do a tie in right now regarding the lab accident. Could you pass the word? Sadly, I don't have a current e-mail for Daio. I talked to Lisa this morning, though. If I remember, I'll try and get the message through next time. Nice to hear Vespiir has more future than she sees. I think the Ebony, Vinnie and Vespiir pairing could be fun. Quote: There were moments of fun to be had as well, especially with the EEE crowd. So Cody is a cat fancier, eh? I can't say that I blame him; Tigra always filled out a bikini well. Of course, I'm also allergic to cats, which is probably for the best considering the amount of "Three's Company" style misunderstanding that drag Vizh under. Glad to see it shifting to a new generation.I'm not sure how much misunderstanding there was, really. It's more like a single entendre. Oh, I gathered that was the case for Cody, certainly. Still, this being the Parodyverse, I really doubt the whole Bonsai Kitten thing isn't going to come back to bite him in the ass. So to speak, of course. Quote: The technical problem I had was that I needed to show how nasty the Carnifex was by having his minions go after the wider cast without having the whole wider cast slaughtered or making the minions seem incompetent. I hope I've struck a balance. I admit, having only seen the movies, I have trouble taking Voldemort (sp?) seriously in Harry Potter since he's constantly thwarted by school kids. I don't mind you bringing in a ringer. Quote: I've set myself a tricky one to resolve. I should really start thinking of a way to finish this. Probably. I've been struggling to come up with a conclusion to a new story today myself. We'll see if it ever comes together and gets posted. | ||
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Subject: Feints within feints ... [Re: The Hooded Hood finally manages to post this more-than-double-sized special] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 02:31:16 am EST (Viewed 475 times) | |
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Subject: But what to wear? [Re: The Hooded Hood finally manages to post this more-than-double-sized special] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 06:03:06 am EST (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: WARNING: This episode includes graphic violenceI read that and thought "Pshaw I read the Hellraiser arc and survived" but then I counted at least two places where the villains discuss feeding folk bits of their own children. That's pretty sick. I'm glad they only discussed it and were trounced before doing it. But you can't say the story didn't deliver on its promise there. I very much enjoyed the Lemuria scene at the start. I'm not sure why it stands out. The interplay between Ebony and Mirri and Vespiir maybe. Or perhaps it was just very well written. And of course I agree with others that the EEE scene was a lot of fun. Perhaps the crews flippancy at the sound of the warning klaxons is due to what they've all been through before? Flippancy in the face of adversity? And folk seem very pleased with Cody's choice of bed-fellow. I'm unsure what Al B. will think? He'll either be happy (and surprised) that Cody is taking something other than a surfing magazine to bed or appalled that is son is into furries. More importantly though what will Kinki think! Anyway for all we know it was all completely innocent and they were braiding each other's hair or working on their manga that they're both writing/drawing or something. *looks shifty* But back to the main course (since that lot seem to be heading towards becoming Elder God lunch anyway). Flapjack's reveal all was surprising, but as Mumph notes, not so surprising given he's from a long line of those who serve. L's lack of reveal all was more surprising, and it will be interesting what, if any, ramifications it ever has if that gets out. I can't see CSFB! being too understanding of such a stand, for instance. I must admit you did a fun job of showing how terrorising the Carnifex could be at the start it was a shame to see it not happen that way. Almost. I'm wondering why he didn't have an override to Mumph's time-bubble chats though that would have allowed him to realise he'd been had? He seemed to have every other contingency worked out - well at least the powerful ones. I'm sure Mumph is powerful enough? The lighthouse scene was fun, I'd forgotten that Tandi was there? She makes for an interesting babysitter. I'm not coming up with any understanding of why Chiaki must die to save that mob over on that world...so await the next bit on that in particular. Hmm what else... How cool was it to see the ACTUAL Shoggoth? Pretty cool. Will we find out who tipped Vinnie off? Does "Sorceress, Yo, Goldeneyed, dull thud, ManMan, Citizen Z and Alcheman answered the charge" mean that one of them will be on the next roster and we'll have to vote which one joins? Too many questions!!! | ||
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Subject: Re: Comments [Re: HH] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 06:20:53 am EST (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: Plus they're recovering from a major party. Al B. really needs to write that tie-in stat.Wait...what??? *cries* "Al B. walks down the road on the way to Cody and Kara's surprise birthday party" Is that good enough? I mean...he walked down the road...that's all we need from my stories no? Quote: I'm not too clear on the personalities of all three to be confident they'd do that. If Al wants me to edit it in then I'm happy to do so.If you had done so in the first place I wouldn't have cared, and can still see the 'fun' aspect of doing so. But you know what, now that it has been discussed, I figure why not NOT make them into the "can appear in a threesome at any moment" type and leave it as is. There are enough of those types in the PVB already. | ||
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Subject: Too much salt? [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 07:13:51 am EST (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: Looks like the plans of the Carnifex fell through, but then again, with his kind of power he's a master of contingencies.He's not as much of a master as he thinks. Like the hunter he is he's good at stalking and at traps but he's not used to prey that doesn't follow the patterns. Quote: So the Hooded Hood's plan comes down to one servant who is for the most part ignored by everyone. That's the kind of plan that Faite would design - one tiny thing that the big bad misses because it falls way below his radar.There are several details that the Hood has ensured are overlooked. Vespiir is another. Quote: The Librarian's council is right. If that kind of information leaks out from the personal files that were probably contributed by the Trading Alliance, it's quite likely some very powerful forces would attack Earth to subdue the Carnifex. The kind of powerful forces that don't care if they have to blow up the entire planet to make sure they get him.And then it's game over for the Parodyverse. Quote: Chiaki's plan is problematic on so many levels. One of which, of course, is that most of her companions won't be able to do it. Liu Xi doesn't want to live with any more deaths caused by her. Anna is developing quite a powerful conscience so that she's about as gentle as a butterfly. Lara *might* do it, but only if she's sure she can save Chiaki's life at the last minute somehow.Well, the Psychic Samurai would certainly be willing to die to get the job done, but she might have had something else in mind (and might know that she was being monitored). Quote: But, Lara is also the one most likely to come up with an alternative, if Chiaki just tells her why she thinks she has to die to make her plan work. For instance Lara can "vaporise" her into energy, which is completely reversible (it's the way she brings guests along when she teleports far away), stop the Samurai's heart temporarily like in that movie Flatliners, or Lara can offer to take Chiaki's place, since she's naturally resilient and resistant to being killed.Lara of Liu Xi being unconcious or otherwise unable to continue to maintain the survival envelope would be disasterous. Chiaki has done the strategy check and worked out who the "expendable" one is - and she's about to act accordingly. | ||
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Subject: Not for the faint hearted. [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 07:17:05 am EST (Viewed 6 times) | |
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Subject: It all goes down with a good sauce. [Re: Visionary] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 07:32:04 am EST (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Gloating is a very important part of superhero comics. People underestimate gloating as a dramatic neccessity.Quote: Really... think how much it would help with the ratings for the Olympics. I think there's a little of that in figure skating, but it might instead just be bitchiness.Ritual mocking could be an Olympic event in its own right. Quote: Sadly, I don't have a current e-mail for Daio. I talked to Lisa this morning, though. If I remember, I'll try and get the message through next time.Give Lisa our love too. Add in the usual nag about how she owes us stories and lots of replies. Quote: Nice to hear Vespiir has more future than she sees. I think the Ebony, Vinnie and Vespiir pairing could be fun.Everybody's forgotten the vision she had back on Caph where she saw Kerry saying to her "Welcome to the Juniors." Quote: I'm not sure how much misunderstanding there was, really. It's more like a single entendre.Quote: Oh, I gathered that was the case for Cody, certainly. Still, this being the Parodyverse, I really doubt the whole Bonsai Kitten thing isn't going to come back to bite him in the ass. So to speak, of course.We can but hope. Quote: The technical problem I had was that I needed to show how nasty the Carnifex was by having his minions go after the wider cast without having the whole wider cast slaughtered or making the minions seem incompetent. I hope I've struck a balance.Quote: I admit, having only seen the movies, I have trouble taking Voldemort (sp?) seriously in Harry Potter since he's constantly thwarted by school kids. I don't mind you bringing in a ringer. Wisely, Rowlins doesn't have Harry directly confront Voldemort until Book 4 (Voldemort wins), then Book 5 (Harry is rescued by Dumbledore). The final showdown isn't until Book 7 - and then Harry has help. In fact Harry does remarkably little successful heroic stuff after Book 2. Quote: I've set myself a tricky one to resolve. I should really start thinking of a way to finish this.Quote: Probably. I've been struggling to come up with a conclusion to a new story today myself. We'll see if it ever comes together and gets posted.One of Gaiman's 8 rules of writing is "Always finish what you start, no matter what." | ||
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Subject: Al would rather wear nothing than fur? [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 08:02:04 am EST (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: [quoteWARNING: This episode includes graphic violenceQuote: I read that and thought "Pshaw I read the Hellraiser arc and survived" but then I counted at least two places where the villains discuss feeding folk bits of their own children. That's pretty sick. I'm glad they only discussed it and were trounced before doing it. I wanted a different feel to the villainy, and visceral seemed the way to go. Quote: But you can't say the story didn't deliver on its promise there. I cut it quite a bit before posting. Quote: I very much enjoyed the Lemuria scene at the start. I'm not sure why it stands out. The interplay between Ebony and Mirri and Vespiir maybe. Or perhaps it was just very well written. it was written before I succumbed to utter despair about how impossible this story is to tell. Quote: And of course I agree with others that the EEE scene was a lot of fun. Perhaps the crews flippancy at the sound of the warning klaxons is due to what they've all been through before? Flippancy in the face of adversity? That scene was really a last-minute addition for pacing purposes, but I'm glad people liked it. "Emergency alarm klaxons sounding? Is it Tuesday again already?" Quote: And folk seem very pleased with Cody's choice of bed-fellow. I'm unsure what Al B. will think? He'll either be happy (and surprised) that Cody is taking something other than a surfing magazine to bed or appalled that is son is into furries. I wasn't sure whether to have one or three kittens in there. Advice please? Quote: More importantly though what will Kinki think! They'd make cure slippers. Quote: Anyway for all we know it was all completely innocent and they were braiding each other's hair or working on their manga that they're both writing/drawing or something. Yes. That's probably it. Quote: *looks shifty*Previously noted. Quote: But back to the main course (since that lot seem to be heading towards becoming Elder God lunch anyway). Just hope he's only hungry. Quote: Flapjack's reveal all was surprising, but as Mumph notes, not so surprising given he's from a long line of those who serve. A few people have evinced surprise at this, but the scene he's referring to was right there at the end of Saving the Future. Quote: L's lack of reveal all was more surprising, and it will be interesting what, if any, ramifications it ever has if that gets out. I can't see CSFB! being too understanding of such a stand, for instance. I felt it was time to give Lee a bit of a crisis (that didn't involve his Library being threatened). I hope poster-L! shows up in time to have an input into the resolution. Quote: I must admit you did a fun job of showing how terrorising the Carnifex could be at the start it was a shame to see it not happen that way. Almost. It was as near as I could get to showing how the baddie works without actually doing any damage. Quote: I'm wondering why he didn't have an override to Mumph's time-bubble chats though that would have allowed him to realise he'd been had? He seemed to have every other contingency worked out - well at least the powerful ones. I'm sure Mumph is powerful enough? He's have to be actively monitoring Mumph for that, and he had his eyes on other things. Quote: The lighthouse scene was fun, I'd forgotten that Tandi was there? She makes for an interesting babysitter.There are probably videos somewhere online. Quote: I'm not coming up with any understanding of why Chiaki must die to save that mob over on that world...so await the next bit on that in particular.Noted. Quote: Hmm what else...Quote: How cool was it to see the ACTUAL Shoggoth? Pretty cool. He was the logical go to person... entity. Quote: Will we find out who tipped Vinnie off? It was the Necromancer General. It was a trap. The Carnifex is very keen to eliminate the sorcerer supreme before the big throwdown. Quote: Does "Sorceress, Yo, Goldeneyed, dull thud, ManMan, Citizen Z and Alcheman answered the charge" mean that one of them will be on the next roster and we'll have to vote which one joins?Some of them may join. Quote: Too many questions!!!Too many answers that need writing! | ||
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Subject: Not to mention that iron taste. Yes, that's right. Too irony. [Re: HH] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 08:15:19 am EST (Viewed 469 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.1 points) Quote: Quote: Looks like the plans of the Carnifex fell through, but then again, with his kind of power he's a master of contingencies.Quote: He's not as much of a master as he thinks. Like the hunter he is he's good at stalking and at traps but he's not used to prey that doesn't follow the patterns.Possibly, but being overwhelmingly powerful (and being on his home turf) makes up for a lot of that. Quote: Quote: So the Hooded Hood's plan comes down to one servant who is for the most part ignored by everyone. That's the kind of plan that Faite would design - one tiny thing that the big bad misses because it falls way below his radar.Quote: There are several details that the Hood has ensured are overlooked. Vespiir is another.I had to laugh at that scene, by the way, because as far as crazy strategies go, Vinnie still takes second place. Xander, and probably Liu Xi as an observer of his strategies, would probably wake up the Fairly-Great Old One as part of a plan to escape. By the way, if someone complains about traveling via Shoggoth around Liu Xi, she'd probably tell them to stop whining, it's no more insane than little kids' TV shows on cable. And that the secret in both cases is not to think about it, just to go along. Also, as far as where Faite might be...I would estimate at this point that she's not really interested in the Carnifex, and may have patiently arranged a nasty surprise for his 3 sponsors instead. That would be just like her, because her job is to try to correct aberrations in the Parodyverse, and the 3 of them definitely fit the bill. Quote: Quote: The Librarian's council is right. If that kind of information leaks out from the personal files that were probably contributed by the Trading Alliance, it's quite likely some very powerful forces would attack Earth to subdue the Carnifex. The kind of powerful forces that don't care if they have to blow up the entire planet to make sure they get him.Quote: And then it's game over for the Parodyverse.Or at least a fairly huge intergalactic war as someone else might try to defend Earth. Or someone incredibly powerful might subdue and arrest the Carnifex in order to prevent Earth from being destroyed, and he'd be put on trial somewhere far away from Earth (which might cause problems from Flay, Skinner, and Peel). Quote: Quote: Chiaki's plan is problematic on so many levels. One of which, of course, is that most of her companions won't be able to do it. Liu Xi doesn't want to live with any more deaths caused by her. Anna is developing quite a powerful conscience so that she's about as gentle as a butterfly. Lara *might* do it, but only if she's sure she can save Chiaki's life at the last minute somehow.Quote: Well, the Psychic Samurai would certainly be willing to die to get the job done, but she might have had something else in mind (and might know that she was being monitored).She very well might be putting the mind behind all this to the test, to see if that person means to kill all 4 of them or just wear them down. If one of them is *trying* to die, the game comes to an end. Quote: Quote: But, Lara is also the one most likely to come up with an alternative, if Chiaki just tells her why she thinks she has to die to make her plan work. For instance Lara can "vaporise" her into energy, which is completely reversible (it's the way she brings guests along when she teleports far away), stop the Samurai's heart temporarily like in that movie Flatliners, or Lara can offer to take Chiaki's place, since she's naturally resilient and resistant to being killed.Quote: Lara or Liu Xi being unconcious or otherwise unable to continue to maintain the survival envelope would be disasterous. Chiaki has done the strategy check and worked out who the "expendable" one is - and she's about to act accordingly.That depends how quick the plan is executed. Unfortunately, there's no way to guarantee a plan would be executed with that kind of perfect timing. The big danger here is if Lara or Anna or Liu Xi take Chiaki too seriously about the dying thing and allocate too many resources to preventing that, possibly bringing down all their defenses. At the very least, they have a built-in escape mechanism once their captor is subdued. They won't have to wait to hitch a ride on a spaceship or anything. | ||
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Subject: Re: Comments [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 08:15:21 am EST (Viewed 6 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Plus they're recovering from a major party. Al B. really needs to write that tie-in stat.Quote: Wait...what???Quote: *cries**Shows no mercy* Quote: "Al B. walks down the road on the way to Cody and Kara's surprise birthday party"Quote: Is that good enough? I mean...he walked down the road...that's all we need from my stories no? It doesn't answer lingering continuity questions such as: 1. Why would there be a big birthday celebration the night that Hatty, Nats, and the Shoggoth were missing presumed dead? 2. What happened to the other two Banzai Kittens? 3. Why would Amy tidy up afterwards rather than dousing people in gas and setting fire to them? 4. What did Cody and Kara get for their birthdays (apart from Annastasia)? 5. What time did the Wooster sisters stagger home? 6. Who vomited in Miss Framlicker's filing cabinet and how are they going to die? Quote: Quote: I'm not too clear on the personalities of all three to be confident they'd do that. If Al wants me to edit it in then I'm happy to do so.Quote: If you had done so in the first place I wouldn't have cared, and can still see the 'fun' aspect of doing so. But you know what, now that it has been discussed, I figure why not NOT make them into the "can appear in a threesome at any moment" type and leave it as is. There are enough of those types in the PVB already. We really need a brief Bonzai Kittens factsheet for the Who's Who. | ||
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Subject: There's probably a Lisa joke in there too. [Re: HH] Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 05:00:35 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Nice to hear Vespiir has more future than she sees. I think the Ebony, Vinnie and Vespiir pairing could be fun.Everybody's forgotten the vision she had back on Caph where she saw Kerry saying to her "Welcome to the Juniors." Well, I don't know about everybody, but I certainly did. How old is Vespiir, in comparable human years? Do we have enough teen characters to keep a Juniors going if the current crop all graduate and/or die? (I'd say it's a rough final exam, but then I don't recall any of them paying tuition, so I suppose it's fair.) Quote: Wisely, Rowlins doesn't have Harry directly confront Voldemort until Book 4 (Voldemort wins), then Book 5 (Harry is rescued by Dumbledore). The final showdown isn't until Book 7 - and then Harry has help.In fact Harry does remarkably little successful heroic stuff after Book 2. Again, I've only seen the movies so far, and I think the 4th one ended with the two of them pointing wands at each other and grimacing at the strain until Harry's dead parents broke the stalemate and had him run for the exit... Admittedly, I don't know how magic works, but one would hope that the most powerful evil wizard wouldn't ever be in a stalemate with a novice... and having it look that way didn't really help me take Voldemort seriously.. I think someone in my office explained there was a bit about their wands being connected that helped here, and that it wasn't really explained well in the movie. Could be. My general impression of the movies is usually "this seems like a really fun universe they've created, and I bet these stories work better in the books"... because they always seem to have kind of lackluster endings, movie-wise. By the way, once Harry time travels at the end of the 3rd movie, is there a reason he never does again? I didn't catch a limitation on the doo-dad he used, so I kept wondering why he didn't just things when that Twilight vampire guy died. Quote: One of Gaiman's 8 rules of writing is "Always finish what you start, no matter what." Luckily for me, I must have quit reading the list before I got to that one... Okay, hopefully I'll get it done while there's still someone out there who wants to read it. | ||
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Subject: *Calls the pun police* [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 08:29:29 pm EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Looks like the plans of the Carnifex fell through, but then again, with his kind of power he's a master of contingencies.Quote: Quote: He's not as much of a master as he thinks. Like the hunter he is he's good at stalking and at traps but he's not used to prey that doesn't follow the patterns.Quote: Possibly, but being overwhelmingly powerful (and being on his home turf) makes up for a lot of that.Indeed. Quote: Quote: There are several details that the Hood has ensured are overlooked. Vespiir is another.Quote: I had to laugh at that scene, by the way, because as far as crazy strategies go, Vinnie still takes second place. Xander, and probably Liu Xi as an observer of his strategies, would probably wake up the Fairly-Great Old One as part of a plan to escape.We saw the possible effects of waking Shabba'Dhabba'Dhu way back around UT#45 or so. When he stretches and yawns the city he's sleeping under ceases to exist. Quote: By the way, if someone complains about traveling via Shoggoth around Liu Xi, she'd probably tell them to stop whining, it's no more insane than little kids' TV shows on cable. And that the secret in both cases is not to think about it, just to go along.Chris, Shoggoth's poster, is clear that Shoggoth travel is bad for your mental health. He's basing his interpretation on Lovecraft's descriptions of planar travel and astral projection and on how people tend to go in sane when they see elder beings. So anyway I generally go by Chris' guidelines and assume that unless someone has some really good reasonnot to be driven nuts then they are. Quote: Also, as far as where Faite might be...I would estimate at this point that she's not really interested in the Carnifex, and may have patiently arranged a nasty surprise for his 3 sponsors instead. That would be just like her, because her job is to try to correct aberrations in the Parodyverse, and the 3 of them definitely fit the bill.The Carnifex's unnumbered sponsors aren't able to get into the Parodyverse. They're too big and have too many dimensions. Quote: Quote: Quote: The Librarian's council is right. If that kind of information leaks out from the personal files that were probably contributed by the Trading Alliance, it's quite likely some very powerful forces would attack Earth to subdue the Carnifex. The kind of powerful forces that don't care if they have to blow up the entire planet to make sure they get him.Quote: Quote: And then it's game over for the Parodyverse.Quote: Or at least a fairly huge intergalactic war as someone else might try to defend Earth. Or someone incredibly powerful might subdue and arrest the Carnifex in order to prevent Earth from being destroyed, and he'd be put on trial somewhere far away from Earth (which might cause problems from Flay, Skinner, and Peel).I think the thrust of the Carnifex is that he's powerful enough to avoid that kind of restraint. He's another of those annoying "ultimate power" types and his whole strategy is to make himself undefeatable by the big boys except by breaking the Parodyverse. Quote: Quote: Quote: Chiaki's plan is problematic on so many levels. One of which, of course, is that most of her companions won't be able to do it. Liu Xi doesn't want to live with any more deaths caused by her. Anna is developing quite a powerful conscience so that she's about as gentle as a butterfly. Lara *might* do it, but only if she's sure she can save Chiaki's life at the last minute somehow.Quote: Quote: Well, the Psychic Samurai would certainly be willing to die to get the job done, but she might have had something else in mind (and might know that she was being monitored).Quote: She very well might be putting the mind behind all this to the test, to see if that person means to kill all 4 of them or just wear them down. If one of them is *trying* to die, the game comes to an end.We'll pick up on this next issue. Quote: At the very least, they have a built-in escape mechanism once their captor is subdued. They won't have to wait to hitch a ride on a spaceship or anything.I'm working on a "what happens next" right now. | ||
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Subject: I guess we were trying to get Manga Shoggoth to pay a visit... [Re: HH] Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 08:59:46 pm EST (Viewed 409 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.3 points) Quote: We saw the possible effects of waking Shabba'Dhabba'Dhu way back around UT#45 or so. When he stretches and yawns the city he's sleeping under ceases to exist.That definitely sounds like Xander then. Liu Xi might be a little more careful. Quote: Chris, Shoggoth's poster, is clear that Shoggoth travel is bad for your mental health. He's basing his interpretation on Lovecraft's descriptions of planar travel and astral projection and on how people tend to go in sane when they see elder beings. So anyway I generally go by Chris' guidelines and assume that unless someone has some really good reasonnot to be driven nuts then they are.Well, you know the simple answer to that: Liu Xi Xian isn't completely sane to begin with. But who would be after discovering they could mold void and change the very laws of reality around them? The way I see it, both the Shoggoth and Liu Xi's void-folding cause a hole in a person's perception of reality that the human mind naturally tries to fill in with...something. Usually something ludicrous like a teddy bear that smells like the color green. So then the stream of reality becomes: I was in Off-Central Park, now I'm in the Lair Mansion, thanks to a teddy bear that smells like color green. Then you ask yourself why a teddy bear and how can the color green have a smell? What does that have to do with me being here? It's simultaneously an indisputable fact, and also impossible. At that point insanity begins to set in as you try to resolve that problem. Somehow, Liu Xi has made a conscious choice not to resolve that hole in reality at all. She accepts the teddy bear that smells like the color green, and doesn't question them as absolute fact, even though it makes no logical sense whatsoever. She would freely tell anyone who asks about them, in fact. So perhaps she isn't quite sane. Or maybe she thinks on a different plane from everyone else. Whichever the case, society tends to interpret either as insanity, since the very definition of it is the inability to think like everyone else. Quite the opposite, Lara Night is highly sensitive, and would probably become very ill after transporting via Shoggoth. It's like having a very sharp sense of smell and someone shoves an entire skunk in your nose. She might come out with her sanity intact...but barely, and she wouldn't be able to hold a conversation for a few hours, or eat for quite a while. Quote: Quote: Also, as far as where Faite might be...I would estimate at this point that she's not really interested in the Carnifex, and may have patiently arranged a nasty surprise for his 3 sponsors instead. That would be just like her, because her job is to try to correct aberrations in the Parodyverse, and the 3 of them definitely fit the bill.Quote: The Carnifex's unnumbered sponsors aren't able to get into the Parodyverse. They're too big and have too many dimensions.The ones that are in the Parodyverse are the ones she's after. She doesn't care about the ones outside as long as they stay there. She most likely means to eject the ones who did make it in. Quote: I think the thrust of the Carnifex is that he's powerful enough to avoid that kind of restraint. He's another of those annoying "ultimate power" types and his whole strategy is to make himself undefeatable by the big boys except by breaking the Parodyverse.Might not stop them from trying though. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Chiaki's plan is problematic on so many levels. One of which, of course, is that most of her companions won't be able to do it. Liu Xi doesn't want to live with any more deaths caused by her. Anna is developing quite a powerful conscience so that she's about as gentle as a butterfly. Lara *might* do it, but only if she's sure she can save Chiaki's life at the last minute somehow.Quote: Quote: Well, the Psychic Samurai would certainly be willing to die to get the job done, but she might have had something else in mind (and might know that she was being monitored).Quote: Quote: She very well might be putting the mind behind all this to the test, to see if that person means to kill all 4 of them or just wear them down. If one of them is *trying* to die, the game comes to an end.Quote: We'll pick up on this next issue.Noted. Quote: Quote: At the very least, they have a built-in escape mechanism once their captor is subdued. They won't have to wait to hitch a ride on a spaceship or anything.Quote: I'm working on a "what happens next" right now.Once they're freed of restrictions, Liu Xi or Lara can get them home. The restrictions are the hard part. | ||
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Subject: I'd be very disappointed if there wasn't. [Re: Visionary] Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 09:07:55 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: Everybody's forgotten the vision she had back on Caph where she saw Kerry saying to her "Welcome to the Juniors."Quote: Well, I don't know about everybody, but I certainly did. How old is Vespiir, in comparable human years? Do we have enough teen characters to keep a Juniors going if the current crop all graduate and/or die? (I'd say it's a rough final exam, but then I don't recall any of them paying tuition, so I suppose it's fair.)In comparable teen years Vespiir is about 18, which puts her on a par with Kerry, a year behind Ham-Boy, Danny, and FA, and 960 years behind Gaz - or 5 years ahead, depending on how you count it. Other teen characters of around that relative age include the Harpers, Fetish Lad, Uuukelele, Liu Xi Xian, Koodi, Kid Produce, Glitch, and Artemis. lder by a year or two are Captain Courageous and Laurie Leyton. Younger by five or six years are Sam Featherstone, Mags, Griffin, and Salieri Meng. I'm not sure where you'd classify Asil, Tandi, Anna, or Hallie but they're generally accorded adult status by their peers. I do expect a change in Juniors status quo at the end of this storyline and a changed line-up of young characters. I've got a line-up of either six or eight in mind depending on how ruthless I'm feeling at the time. Not all of them are people I've listed above. I've also pretty much locked down who I want in the LL but I'm holding off to allow last minute input from some folks I think would want to have their say like Hatty and the Shoggoth - and especially L! Quote: Quote: Wisely, Rowlins doesn't have Harry directly confront Voldemort until Book 4 (Voldemort wins), then Book 5 (Harry is rescued by Dumbledore). The final showdown isn't until Book 7 - and then Harry has help.Quote: In fact Harry does remarkably little successful heroic stuff after Book 2.Quote: Quote: Again, I've only seen the movies so far, and I think the 4th one ended with the two of them pointing wands at each other and grimacing at the strain until Harry's dead parents broke the stalemate and had him run for the exit... Admittedly, I don't know how magic works, but one would hope that the most powerful evil wizard wouldn't ever be in a stalemate with a novice... and having it look that way didn't really help me take Voldemort seriously..The books do offer more rationalisation for it, including proper explanations of "a mother's love - the oldest magic," and how wands created from matched phoenix feathers can have strange resonant effects when locked in combat with each other. Quote: I think someone in my office explained there was a bit about their wands being connected that helped here, and that it wasn't really explained well in the movie. Could be. My general impression of the movies is usually "this seems like a really fun universe they've created, and I bet these stories work better in the books"... because they always seem to have kind of lackluster endings, movie-wise.Some of the books are rather anticlimactic too, and most suffer from an expository chapter once the action is over. My take on them is that there's some fascinating stuff in there but Rowlins desperately needed an editor who was willing to challenge her, to cut stuff for pace, and to demand plot points were properly pursued and accounted for. Quote: By the way, once Harry time travels at the end of the 3rd movie, is there a reason he never does again? I didn't catch a limitation on the doo-dad he used, so I kept wondering why he didn't just things when that Twilight vampire guy died.I don't recall any reason, no. I guess magic can be screwy. Quote: Okay, hopefully I'll get it done while there's still someone out there who wants to read it.Good stuff. Now would be the time to stake your ambassadorial claim with judicious stories and reposts setting that status quo out too. Finally, I tried to write to you re Hallie yesterday - and to check if you had picture reference for certain characters - but Comcast bounced my e-mails back as spam. If you do have any thoughts re Hallie in the LL or wish to convesy how badly you want her there then feel free to communicate; I'll try and find ways or responding. | ||
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Subject: It might be simpler to e-mail him [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 09:22:51 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: We saw the possible effects of waking Shabba'Dhabba'Dhu way back around UT#45 or so. When he stretches and yawns the city he's sleeping under ceases to exist.Quote: That definitely sounds like Xander then. Liu Xi might be a little more careful.Preventing Fairly Great Old Ones from waking up is a fairly major part of his job. Quote: The way I see it, both the Shoggoth and Liu Xi's void-folding cause a hole in a person's perception of reality that the human mind naturally tries to fill in with...something. Usually something ludicrous like a teddy bear that smells like the color green. So then the stream of reality becomes: I was in Off-Central Park, now I'm in the Lair Mansion, thanks to a teddy bear that smells like color green. Then you ask yourself why a teddy bear and how can the color green have a smell? What does that have to do with me being here? It's simultaneously an indisputable fact, and also impossible. At that point insanity begins to set in as you try to resolve that problem.I'd agree about Liu Xi's technique, which is really about using void to pinch two bits of the sheet of timespace together for a moment. I'd argue that the Shoggoth and the elder gods work differently. The Edler gods shouldn't be in the Parodyverse. They're a disease, a cancer. They can't exist within the laws of physics of a regular universe. While those laws previal, the elder gods "sleep" or are "dead". When they're awake what they do is rewrite the laws so they can exist, creating a place inimical to human life, where time and space and dimensions and mass and energy and life and death are meaningless. Without any of those reference points and bombarded with utterly incomprehensible alternative elements no human mind could cope. The Shoggoth warps reality around him on a much smaller scale but he's essentially a pocket of different physical laws moving about the Parodyverse. The same is true of the other lesser elder beings. All of them can access the reality that would exist if the elder gods were awake and treat it as if it already existed - because if the elder gods do awake it always will have existed. They can travel through that reality but if they drag humans with them it's the equivalent of a human living in that altered set of physical laws, the mental equivalent of a body getting immersed in chlorine gas or sulphuric acid, something totally inimical to human wellbeing. Now there are ways for humans to survive many inimical environments but they call for special equipment or training. The same is true for Shoggoth-travel. Any sensitive will find travel that way just plain wrong. Someone as telepathically open as Vespiir - with no training so far at all in any kind of psychic defence - is going to be the most vulnerable of all. But see next issue. Quote: Quote: Quote: At the very least, they have a built-in escape mechanism once their captor is subdued. They won't have to wait to hitch a ride on a spaceship or anything.Quote: Quote: I'm working on a "what happens next" right now.Quote: Once they're freed of restrictions, Liu Xi or Lara can get them home. The restrictions are the hard part.There's likely to be a complication; but an interesting one. | ||
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Subject: Not as funny though. [Re: HH] Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 09:48:18 pm EST (Viewed 438 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.11 points) Quote: I'd agree about Liu Xi's technique, which is really about using void to pinch two bits of the sheet of timespace together for a moment. I'd argue that the Shoggoth and the elder gods work differently.It's not the technique I'm referring to, but the human perception of it. It's like you look at a solid wall, but not only is the wall not solid, but it has infinite space within it. Not only does that pretty much cause your brain's sense of perception to break, but it's impossible to resolve logically. So either Liu Xi has become accustomed to having her perception broken, or she found a way to resolve it or accept it somehow. So it's a bit like sending someone into space suddenly, and their perception of direction, which way is up or down, and the position of their own limbs has become so distorted that confusion sets in immediately. It's been said that having to deal with that sensation for too long really can cause a person to go insane - which is why zero-G astronauts are tied to their chairs until the spacecraft stops moving, while airplane passengers can get up and walk around at a certain altitude. It gives them a reference point that avoids that kind of confusion. Quote: The Edler gods shouldn't be in the Parodyverse. They're a disease, a cancer. They can't exist within the laws of physics of a regular universe. While those laws previal, the elder gods "sleep" or are "dead". When they're awake what they do is rewrite the laws so they can exist, creating a place inimical to human life, where time and space and dimensions and mass and energy and life and death are meaningless. Without any of those reference points and bombarded with utterly incomprehensible alternative elements no human mind could cope.That might be part of the answer - since Liu Xi is an elementalist, she probably "feels" those impossible elements, so she's in touch with them the way no other human can be. She becomes a part of that universe. That might make it so she feels as if she was born with them, even though she doesn't understand them. Another interesting question is if Liu Xi spends too much time in the Shoggoth's universe, if she has problems adapting to the human one again. Quote: The Shoggoth warps reality around him on a much smaller scale but he's essentially a pocket of different physical laws moving about the Parodyverse. The same is true of the other lesser elder beings. All of them can access the reality that would exist if the elder gods were awake and treat it as if it already existed - because if the elder gods do awake it always will have existed. They can travel through that reality but if they drag humans with them it's the equivalent of a human living in that altered set of physical laws, the mental equivalent of a body getting immersed in chlorine gas or sulphuric acid, something totally inimical to human wellbeing.I thought it had to do with more abstract things, which would relate to Liu Xi's handling of void. Elements might be even easier for her, as foreign as they are, because she can feel them call to her and sense their presence. Though the atmosphere may be toxic for her after too long, she might feel a connection to it so that it feels like home as much as her real home does. Of course she still might be considered slightly insane, from the average humans' point of view, simply because she understands elements at all. Quote: Now there are ways for humans to survive many inimical environments but they call for special equipment or training. The same is true for Shoggoth-travel. Any sensitive will find travel that way just plain wrong. Someone as telepathically open as Vespiir - with no training so far at all in any kind of psychic defence - is going to be the most vulnerable of all.Lara Night is most sensitive to sources of energy and forces of the universe. The interesting part here might be if the Shoggoth gives off some kind of very foreign energy. Lara might go in, and then come out changed - maybe not mentally, but her energy-based powers might go haywire, or they might behave unpredictably, or she could simply have radically new or different powers for a while. Nobody would know for sure. She absorbs all energy around her, so the risk is high and unpredictable. Quote: But see next issue.Noted. Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: At the very least, they have a built-in escape mechanism once their captor is subdued. They won't have to wait to hitch a ride on a spaceship or anything.Quote: Quote: I'm working on a "what happens next" right now.Quote: Quote: Once they're freed of restrictions, Liu Xi or Lara can get them home. The restrictions are the hard part.Quote: There's likely to be a complication; but an interesting one.Noted. | ||
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Subject: Re: I'd be very disappointed if there wasn't. [Re: HH] Posted Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 10:37:12 pm EST (Viewed 437 times) | |
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Quote: I do expect a change in Juniors status quo at the end of this storyline and a changed line-up of young characters. I've got a line-up of either six or eight in mind depending on how ruthless I'm feeling at the time. Not all of them are people I've listed above. I've also pretty much locked down who I want in the LL but I'm holding off to allow last minute input from some folks I think would want to have their say like Hatty and the Shoggoth - and especially L! Since the Junior's status quo is currently "alive", I'll try not to read too much into that first statement. It'll be fun to see who you pull out of the Who's Who to fill out a new roster. Hatty seems to have been consumed by the Olympics... hopefully he'll show up in time to voice his opinion. In any event, remember Brap is still available for the line up if you need the filler. Some of the books are rather anticlimactic too, and most suffer from an expository chapter once the action is over. My take on them is that there's some fascinating stuff in there but Rowlins desperately needed an editor who was willing to challenge her, to cut stuff for pace, and to demand plot points were properly pursued and accounted for. I'll likely tackle the books once they're released in a reasonably priced paperback format. Here I foolishly thought that would happen within a few years of each release... Quote: Now would be the time to stake your ambassadorial claim with judicious stories and reposts setting that status quo out too.Yes, well... that would probably be good too. This, however, is my "forest week" contribution. No, really. Still, I'm enjoying it, and I don't think you need to know any current continuity, so some of the long-lost posters who have wandered in recently may be able to enjoy it as well. (We'll see how much continuity creeps in before I'm done, however.) Quote: Finally, I tried to write to you re Hallie yesterday - and to check if you had picture reference for certain characters - but Comcast bounced my e-mails back as spam. If you do have any thoughts re Hallie in the LL or wish to convesy how badly you want her there then feel free to communicate; I'll try and find ways or responding.I e-mailed you from a different account, to the address you provided to GE. I'm not that prompt at responding to the comcast address anyway... For others trying to reach me, I use vizh310 at gmail. That on is .com, by the way. | ||
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Subject: OT on the Potter Books [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 05:24:20 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: I'll likely tackle the books once they're released in a reasonably priced paperback format. Here I foolishly thought that would happen within a few years of each release...I thought they were in paperback? Or maybe just not reasonably priced. Anyway, I recommend the books over the movies. But after a few they do tend to follow a form. I'm not certain I've read the last one yet truth be told. Particularly by the sixth film (Half Blood Prince) though I felt the film had left out quite a lot of the interesting focus from the book, and tended to focus too much on other aspects (like the romance between various characters side of thing). Though let's face it you can't have everything in the film. Quote: Yes, well... that would probably be good too. This, however, is my "forest week" contribution. No, really. Forest Week Lives! | ||
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Subject: Because Shoggoths are full of giggles [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 07:37:38 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: It's not the technique I'm referring to, but the human perception of it. It's like you look at a solid wall, but not only is the wall not solid, but it has infinite space within it. Not only does that pretty much cause your brain's sense of perception to break, but it's impossible to resolve logically. So either Liu Xi has become accustomed to having her perception broken, or she found a way to resolve it or accept it somehow.That would seem to be as good an explanation as any. Quote: Quote: The Edler gods shouldn't be in the Parodyverse. They're a disease, a cancer. They can't exist within the laws of physics of a regular universe. While those laws previal, the elder gods "sleep" or are "dead". When they're awake what they do is rewrite the laws so they can exist, creating a place inimical to human life, where time and space and dimensions and mass and energy and life and death are meaningless. Without any of those reference points and bombarded with utterly incomprehensible alternative elements no human mind could cope.Quote: That might be part of the answer - since Liu Xi is an elementalist, she probably "feels" those impossible elements, so she's in touch with them the way no other human can be. She becomes a part of that universe. That might make it so she feels as if she was born with them, even though she doesn't understand them.She'll need to beware. As I say, those elements are effectively diseased. If she's infected she'll be consumed and something else will be looking out from behind her eyes. Quote: Another interesting question is if Liu Xi spends too much time in the Shoggoth's universe, if she has problems adapting to the human one again.Indeed. Quote: Quote: The Shoggoth warps reality around him on a much smaller scale but he's essentially a pocket of different physical laws moving about the Parodyverse. The same is true of the other lesser elder beings. All of them can access the reality that would exist if the elder gods were awake and treat it as if it already existed - because if the elder gods do awake it always will have existed. They can travel through that reality but if they drag humans with them it's the equivalent of a human living in that altered set of physical laws, the mental equivalent of a body getting immersed in chlorine gas or sulphuric acid, something totally inimical to human wellbeing.Quote: I thought it had to do with more abstract things, which would relate to Liu Xi's handling of void. Elements might be even easier for her, as foreign as they are, because she can feel them call to her and sense their presence. Though the atmosphere may be toxic for her after too long, she might feel a connection to it so that it feels like home as much as her real home does.I wonder if actually Liu Xi dies the reverse of this. Perhaps she's able to clothe herself in a tiny pocket of normal elements and physics like a space suit in the same way as the Shoggoth does with his physics to survive in the mortal world. Quote: Of course she still might be considered slightly insane, from the average humans' point of view, simply because she understands elements at all.She's not writing equations in her own blood on the wall of an asylum. Quote: Lara Night is most sensitive to sources of energy and forces of the universe. The interesting part here might be if the Shoggoth gives off some kind of very foreign energy. Lara might go in, and then come out changed - maybe not mentally, but her energy-based powers might go haywire, or they might behave unpredictably, or she could simply have radically new or different powers for a while. Nobody would know for sure. She absorbs all energy around her, so the risk is high and unpredictable.It probably wouldn't be good. the worst case scenario would be Shema quarantining her from her home to prevent the spread of infection there. | ||
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Subject: Re: I'd be very disappointed if there wasn't. [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 07:52:06 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: I do expect a change in Juniors status quo at the end of this storyline and a changed line-up of young characters. I've got a line-up of either six or eight in mind depending on how ruthless I'm feeling at the time. Not all of them are people I've listed above.Quote: I've also pretty much locked down who I want in the LL but I'm holding off to allow last minute input from some folks I think would want to have their say like Hatty and the Shoggoth - and especially L!Quote: Since the Junior's status quo is currently "alive", I'll try not to read too much into that first statement. It'll be fun to see who you pull out of the Who's Who to fill out a new roster.I think we've probably exhausted the possibilities of a classroom-based team. A new roster would just retread old ground with new names. It's time for a different paradigm. Quote: Hatty seems to have been consumed by the Olympics... hopefully he'll show up in time to voice his opinion. In any event, remember Brap is still available for the line up if you need the filler.For the Shoggoth? Quote: [q}Some of the books are rather anticlimactic too, and most suffer from an expository chapter once the action is over. My take on them is that there's some fascinating stuff in there but Rowlins desperately needed an editor who was willing to challenge her, to cut stuff for pace, and to demand plot points were properly pursued and accounted for.Quote: I'll likely tackle the books once they're released in a reasonably priced paperback format. Here I foolishly thought that would happen within a few years of each release...Over here you can't move in bookshops without tripping over piles of remaindered paperbacks. At the height of the Potter craze the shops all bought enough books for evey UK citizen to buy three. Quote: Quote: Now would be the time to stake your ambassadorial claim with judicious stories and reposts setting that status quo out too.Quote: Yes, well... that would probably be good too. This, however, is my "forest week" contribution. No, really. Still, I'm enjoying it, and I don't think you need to know any current continuity, so some of the long-lost posters who have wandered in recently may be able to enjoy it as well. (We'll see how much continuity creeps in before I'm done, however.)It's not like you can't write both stories - and the other one I mentioned. Quote: Quote: Finally, I tried to write to you re Hallie yesterday - Quote: I e-mailed you from a different account, to the address you provided to GE. I'm not that prompt at responding to the comcast address anyway... For others trying to reach me, I use vizh310 at gmail. That on is .com, by the way.Noted. | ||
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Subject: OTT on the Potter Books [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 07:57:43 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: I thought they were in paperback? Or maybe just not reasonably priced. Anyway, I recommend the books over the movies. But after a few they do tend to follow a form. I'm not certain I've read the last one yet truth be told. I read it. It was better than the abysmal 6th volume but it didn't quite pull off the triumphal ending the series deserved. The author really needed to get Harry off stage for a while and show us the rest of her wider cast. Instead we get three chapters of Harry, Ron and Hermione whining in a tent and the revolution at Hogwarts led by Ginny and the adventures of the order of the Phoenix reported in three paragraphs afterwards. in fact Rowlins appears to forget about Ginny altogehter a third of the way through the book and does nothing to set up the [spoiler blacked out] "ten years later" epilogue of "Oh, and here's Harry and Ginny's kid going to Hogwarts". Quote: Particularly by the sixth film (Half Blood Prince) though I felt the film had left out quite a lot of the interesting focus from the book, and tended to focus too much on other aspects (like the romance between various characters side of thing). Though let's face it you can't have everything in the film. I thought movie 6 did a reasonable job in finding an actual plot with an actual resolution from the 600-page setup for volume 7 that was volume 6. Quote: Quote: Yes, well... that would probably be good too. This, however, is my "forest week" contribution. No, really. Quote: Forest Week Lives!*cough* Urban Druid *cough* |
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