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Subject: #333: Untold Tales of the Carnifex Posted Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 05:05:52 pm EST (Viewed 8 times) | |
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Subject: Do any of Carnifex's plans involve invading Ausgard? [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 06:43:13 pm EST (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Well, this was a huge change in the largely dormant status quo. The threat of Ultizon was quite interesting for what amounted to a throwaway plot point, since it didn't really matter how the LL got almost smooshed, just as long as they did. The plan the heroes came up with to beat the Master Machine was clever, and almost worked too. I eagerly look forward to the team's dinner at their new leaders Esqualine Tower, the identity of the Hooded Hood's daughter (I'm guessing its Samantha Featherstone) and who exactly Jason's characters are going to flirt with now that Hatty's gone. | ||
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Subject: For once I think I know what's going on! [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 10:16:55 pm EST (Viewed 432 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.39 points) Apparently Hatman *is* key to the defeat of the Carnifex after all, which is why he had to be removed from the equation before any of the plan was placed into effect. Of course the Hooded Hood is key too, but he's playing hard to get. The Psychic Samurai is a little perplexing as a primary target, because her senses alone shouldn't be enough to harm the Carnifex or his friends if they have the Lair Legion in their pocket - unless somehow she's capable of stopping them all single-handedly and she hasn't realized it yet. She can gather "friends", but once all those friends are neutralized, her effectiveness should be limited (except Lara, who seems to be on the outside of this). Unless, of course - and this is a long shot - somehow the Carnifex' power, or his friends' power, is based on an external force that Chiaki might be able to see and destroy. Though that would more be Liu Xi's department, being able to stop someone single-handedly and not realizing it. Even with her elemental power and memorizing spells, she still has very limited self-confidence. She doesn't believe she's ready for the big-leagues yet. Of course Hatty being taken and Vinnie being threatened might be enough to dissolve her reluctance quickly. She'll also be angry that the University was destroyed, since her credits won't be accepted anywhere else. As things are working out, it looks like Lara Night has been groomed as a hidden weapon by not only by the Hooded Hood, but possibly the Psychic Samurai as well. I have to feel sorry for her at this point - at some point, Lara is going to suffer huge loss. She has to, because once she understands why the Hooded Hood wiped her memory, she'll know that she *can't* show the Carnifex or his two buddies what she's capable of until the time is right. Too early, and she'll have destroyed the Hooded Hood's possible plan and last hope for the Parodyverse. At the very least, though, she may be called into duty suddenly to investigate whatever alternate dimension Hatman has been ripped to. She's might be only one who can look in on it without causing harm to herself (Liu Xi has a bad habit of falling into places like that and getting stuck). Of course "looking in on it" doesn't guarantee she'll find anything. It's a simple matter of coverage - if her entry point is nowhere near where Hatman and Nats went in, she could look for months and not find a thing. Also, Al B Harper might be reluctant to let her since the way she does it (riding waves of energy across dimensions) he can't monitor her progress. Oh and the Librarian will kick himself when someone tells him that Anna has nanites of her own that repair and maintain her body. She has a built-in way to communicate with them that she possibly could have adapted. But the fact that she wasn't called in could simply be a lingering lack of trust - they don't really know if Utilizon can turn her against them. | ||
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Subject: Well, now that I actually have the next two weeks off, I might need to tie into what's obviously impacted my world a great deal here. :) [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 04:13:20 am EST (Viewed 430 times) | |
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Subject: Out of a dark day, a new beginning... [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 09:46:41 am EST (Viewed 494 times) | |
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Wow, that was huge... an epic struggle in a self-contained chapter. Quite impressive bit of writing. Rhiannon should turn 16 more often... at least 4 times a year, I think. Things are looking dark for the heroes, especially with the loss of Hatty. We need Jay to reappear at the board in time to get his character out of limbo and keep us all alive... at least long enough for me to collect that last remaining Carnifex collector's glass from Burger King. I'd hate to die without finally getting all 16. Nice to see the future tale tie back in with present continuity as well. I suppose the big question is, what can the Caphans do with that knowledge? Hard to see what anyone can do at this point... the next chapter is going to be scary. Looking forward to it! | ||
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Subject: That sounds like a good idea. of course, there's a very limited window of in-continuity time to do it before things... move on. [Re: CrazySugarFreakBoy!] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:08:45 am EST | |
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Subject: It's always nice to think that. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:18:37 am EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Quote: Apparently Hatman *is* key to the defeat of the Carnifex after all, which is why he had to be removed from the equation before any of the plan was placed into effect. Of course the Hooded Hood is key too, but he's playing hard to get.Hatman's the key to the Carnifex getting Zdenka too. If you're going hunting first you cut your prey off from it's hide. Quote: The Psychic Samurai is a little perplexing as a primary target, because her senses alone shouldn't be enough to harm the Carnifex or his friends if they have the Lair Legion in their pocket - unless somehow she's capable of stopping them all single-handedly and she hasn't realized it yet. She can gather "friends", but once all those friends are neutralized, her effectiveness should be limited (except Lara, who seems to be on the outside of this). Unless, of course - and this is a long shot - somehow the Carnifex' power, or his friends' power, is based on an external force that Chiaki might be able to see and destroy.The Carnifex likes to study then stalk his quarry, so he's taken time to find out quite a bit about each of his targets. For some reason as yet to be revealed he's taken special care regarding the mystic and psychic types, to the extent of logging and working out ways of neutralising pretty much all the cosmic powers and either suborning, sidelining, or removing the less cosmic ones. Only a few remain out there "in the wild", such as Vinnie and Chiaki. As you'd expect, he has plans for them. The one psychic that was completely off his radar was an outcast Caphan female in a semi-imaginary surreal continent of the Shoggoth's creation. Quote: Though that would more be Liu Xi's department, being able to stop someone single-handedly and not realizing it. Even with her elemental power and memorizing spells, she still has very limited self-confidence. She doesn't believe she's ready for the big-leagues yet. Of course Hatty being taken and Vinnie being threatened might be enough to dissolve her reluctance quickly. She'll also be angry that the University was destroyed, since her credits won't be accepted anywhere else.The whole university wasn't destroyed, just the science blocks. Another interesting thing Lou Xi hasn't yet discovered is the role the Carnifex played in her grandfather's plots and demise. Quote: As things are working out, it looks like Lara Night has been groomed as a hidden weapon by not only by the Hooded Hood, but possibly the Psychic Samurai as well. I have to feel sorry for her at this point - at some point, Lara is going to suffer huge loss. She has to, because once she understands why the Hooded Hood wiped her memory, she'll know that she *can't* show the Carnifex or his two buddies what she's capable of until the time is right. Too early, and she'll have destroyed the Hooded Hood's possible plan and last hope for the Parodyverse.The Hood never does something for only one reason. Quote: At the very least, though, she may be called into duty suddenly to investigate whatever alternate dimension Hatman has been ripped to. She's might be only one who can look in on it without causing harm to herself (Liu Xi has a bad habit of falling into places like that and getting stuck). Of course "looking in on it" doesn't guarantee she'll find anything. It's a simple matter of coverage - if her entry point is nowhere near where Hatman and Nats went in, she could look for months and not find a thing. Also, Al B Harper might be reluctant to let her since the way she does it (riding waves of energy across dimensions) he can't monitor her progress.Long-time readers might note my penchant for having absent poster's characters conveniently absent also. I'm not sure yet how long-time absent character Nats and Hatty are but intend to undertake some consultation on the matter soon. Quote: Oh and the Librarian will kick himself when someone tells him that Anna has nanites of her own that repair and maintain her body. She has a built-in way to communicate with them that she possibly could have adapted. But the fact that she wasn't called in could simply be a lingering lack of trust - they don't really know if Utilizon can turn her against them.I think there'd probably be a definite decision to keep Anna away from Ultizon to protect her from harm. Hatman wouldn't want to place her in a "Bride of Ultizon" situation or where her own nanites might be overcome and reprogrammed by a bigger, nastier, more experienced AI. At the very least he wpuldn't want to hand Ultizon a chance to assimilate Anna's technical specs. | ||
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Subject: Let's say yes. He's probably going to blow up Stamford too. [Re: killer shrike also wishes Rhiannon a happy birthday] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:21:37 am EST (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: Well, this was a huge change in the largely dormant status quo. It felt like we needed to move forward, like a shark. The threat of Ultizon was quite interesting for what amounted to a throwaway plot point, since it didn't really matter how the LL got almost smooshed, just as long as they did. The plan the heroes came up with to beat the Master Machine was clever, and almost worked too. It would probably have worked entirely if only the Carnifex hadn't gone ape; but nobody will see it like that. I eagerly look forward to the team's dinner at their new leaders Esqualine Tower, the identity of the Hooded Hood's daughter (I'm guessing its Samantha Featherstone) and who exactly Jason's characters are going to flirt with now that Hatty's gone. Your speculations are noted. When can be have Epitome and Glory back? | ||
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Subject: In brightest day, in darkest night... [Re: Visionary] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:27:37 am EST (Viewed 5 times) | |
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Quote: Wow, that was huge... an epic struggle in a self-contained chapter. Quite impressive bit of writing. Rhiannon should turn 16 more often... at least 4 times a year, I think.I advised her to stick at 11, but would she listen? Quote: Things are looking dark for the heroes, especially with the loss of Hatty. We need Jay to reappear at the board in time to get his character out of limbo and keep us all alive... at least long enough for me to collect that last remaining Carnifex collector's glass from Burger King. I'd hate to die without finally getting all 16.Everybody should e-mail Jay in the next 24 hours (capped.crusader at gmail.com last I heard) and tell him to get his married butt down here. Quote: Nice to see the future tale tie back in with present continuity as well. I suppose the big question is, what can the Caphans do with that knowledge? Hard to see what anyone can do at this point... the next chapter is going to be scary.I'm trying to decide who else would likely attend a dinner at the Esqualine Tower given the chance. Hallie's certainly invited and probably all the LL support crew. Quote: Looking forward to it!I may even get round to writing it this weekend. More replies make it more likely yet. | ||
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Subject: Re: It's always nice to think that. [Re: HH] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 02:32:01 pm EST (Viewed 432 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0 points) Quote: Hatman's the key to the Carnifex getting Zdenka too. If you're going hunting first you cut your prey off from it's hide.There are far easier ways for the Carnifex to steal away Zdenka. Waiting until he's busy at the Zero Street Mission, for example. Quote: The Carnifex likes to study then stalk his quarry, so he's taken time to find out quite a bit about each of his targets. For some reason as yet to be revealed he's taken special care regarding the mystic and psychic types, to the extent of logging and working out ways of neutralising pretty much all the cosmic powers and either suborning, sidelining, or removing the less cosmic ones. Only a few remain out there "in the wild", such as Vinnie and Chiaki. As you'd expect, he has plans for them.As Chiaki would say, her "sight" doesn't tell her everything. She would be both amused and worried that she's been given such priority. Worried, of course, because of the chance that her "sight" might fail her, and she'll be at the mercy of a super-powered killer with only her will and sword to defend her. Quote: The one psychic that was completely off his radar was an outcast Caphan female in a semi-imaginary surreal continent of the Shoggoth's creation.He forgot about Faite, but that's probably her plan - the Carnifex has never known of her existence in the first place, and she meant it that way. It's probably part of the Hooded Hood's plan as well. Quote: The whole university wasn't destroyed, just the science blocks.Who says she isn't taking some science classes? Quote: Another interesting thing Lou Xi hasn't yet discovered is the role the Carnifex played in her grandfather's plots and demise.That might be interesting, because she might be a little grateful for the old man's destruction. Right up until the Carnifex starts hunting Vinnie. Also, is it implied that they haven't been able to locate Vinnie? That may be because Liu Xi is hiding him somewhere way out of reach. And probably by accident, just for recreation. Quote: The Hood never does something for only one reason.This time, though, he has the good fortune to have plotted with someone (Lara) with the capacity to understand certain aspects of it. At least enough not to ruin those plans accidentally. Quote: Long-time readers might note my penchant for having absent poster's characters conveniently absent also. I'm not sure yet how long-time absent character Nats and Hatty are but intend to undertake some consultation on the matter soon.Yes, I am aware of it. And story-wise, that would be the secondary question in Lara's mind: Even if she's asked to peek into that rift, would she want to? After all, if it's the Carnifex' closely guarded hiding place, she goes right to the top of the list for being able to see it - and becoming target #1 again is not to plan. Quote: I think there'd probably be a definite decision to keep Anna away from Ultizon to protect her from harm. Hatman wouldn't want to place her in a "Bride of Ultizon" situation or where her own nanites might be overcome and reprogrammed by a bigger, nastier, more experienced AI. At the very least he wpuldn't want to hand Ultizon a chance to assimilate Anna's technical specs.That might be part of the lack of trust. Anna was built to be able to destroy the Lair Legion single-handedly using unprecedented intelligence, speed, and weaponry. For SPUD, it was like designing the perfect super-powered ninja assassin who learns and improves and develops more skills as she fights. Unfortunately for them, she also developed a conscience, and escaped. But since the Lair Legion doesn't know how strong a conscience figures into her design, they also have to worry that something technical might strip her of it, or suppress it, and she would fall back to her original purpose. They really don't know how deep her conscience may run, or how determined she is to remain passive and friendly to them. | ||
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Subject: Meh. Tell me when he impregnates two of his own son's girlfriends [Re: HH] Posted Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 07:53:28 pm EST (Viewed 4 times) | |
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Quote: When can be have Epitome and Glory back?When Dancer #50 is posted. | ||
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Subject: Maybe this might help... [Re: HH] Posted Thu Jan 21, 2010 at 01:23:42 am EST (Viewed 423 times) | |
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Subject: Yikes! And Happy Birthday Rhiannon [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 07:42:15 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Sweet chapter. Simple yet descriptive in its horror opening, that built up the tension as it went along. I never noticed the Flay and Skinner had those accents before but they fit perfectly. Poor Jay and Nats, and the Shoggoth too maybe. Poor everyone else next chapter….eek! Glad I popped by to get to read this fresh. | ||
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Subject: Happy Birthday Rhiannon (ye gods, I'm out of touch...) [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Sun Jan 24, 2010 at 01:07:30 pm EST | |
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Subject: Wow, how' that for irony [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Wed Jan 27, 2010 at 01:58:46 pm EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Subject: And a happy birthday to Rhiannon as well. Man, 16 already...they grow up so fast! [Re: Hatman] Posted Wed Jan 27, 2010 at 01:59:15 pm EST | |
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Subject: Re: In brightest day, in darkest night... [Re: HH] Posted Wed Jan 27, 2010 at 02:12:07 pm EST (Viewed 425 times) | |
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Quote: Everybody should e-mail Jay in the next 24 hours (capped.crusader at gmail.com last I heard) and tell him to get his married butt down here.You rang? ~Hat~ | ||
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Subject: I should have more birthdays. [Re: The Hooded Hood says Happy 16th Birthday to Rhiannon (for 19th January) - be careful what you wish for] Posted Sat Jan 30, 2010 at 01:14:17 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) | |
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Thankyou and sorry I took so long to post a reply on the board. I really should have another birthday quickly to find out who dies horribly dinner. | ||
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Subject: Re: Maybe this might help... [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun Jan 31, 2010 at 10:36:45 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: I'm trying to decide who else would likely attend a dinner at the Esqualine Tower given the chance. Hallie's certainly invited and probably all the LL support crew.Quote: E-mail me if you're unsure about any of my cast.As you'll see from UT#334, I decided that your main cast deserved a little subplot all of their very own. | ||
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Subject: Re: It's always nice to think that. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Sun Jan 31, 2010 at 01:48:43 pm EST (Viewed 2 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: Hatman's the key to the Carnifex getting Zdenka too. If you're going hunting first you cut your prey off from it's hide.Quote: There are far easier ways for the Carnifex to steal away Zdenka. Waiting until he's busy at the Zero Street Mission, for example.It's part of the stalking game. Capture's no fun without a proper hunt. Quote: Quote: The Carnifex likes to study then stalk his quarry, so he's taken time to find out quite a bit about each of his targets. For some reason as yet to be revealed he's taken special care regarding the mystic and psychic types, to the extent of logging and working out ways of neutralising pretty much all the cosmic powers and either suborning, sidelining, or removing the less cosmic ones. Only a few remain out there "in the wild", such as Vinnie and Chiaki. As you'd expect, he has plans for them.Quote: As Chiaki would say, her "sight" doesn't tell her everything. She would be both amused and worried that she's been given such priority. Worried, of course, because of the chance that her "sight" might fail her, and she'll be at the mercy of a super-powered killer with only her will and sword to defend her.As you'll see in UT#334, the Carnifex has made special provision to deal with a number of LL allies via drastic overkill. Quote: Quote: The one psychic that was completely off his radar was an outcast Caphan female in a semi-imaginary surreal continent of the Shoggoth's creation.Quote: He forgot about Faite, but that's probably her plan - the Carnifex has never known of her existence in the first place, and she meant it that way. It's probably part of the Hooded Hood's plan as well.Faite has already interfered to some degree, and that means the Carnifex's sponsors should be able to neutralise her; if only Lara Night's involvement hadn't been retconned a little to offer a small window of opportunity to Faite. Quote: Quote: The whole university wasn't destroyed, just the science blocks.Quote: Who says she isn't taking some science classes?There's a story to be told somewhere about the new science block. That said, rather more of Paradopolis might need rebuilding very soon. Quote: Quote: Another interesting thing Lou Xi hasn't yet discovered is the role the Carnifex played in her grandfather's plots and demise.Quote: That might be interesting, because she might be a little grateful for the old man's destruction. Right up until the Carnifex starts hunting Vinnie.That's scheduled for right after the LL are dead. Quote: Also, is it implied that they haven't been able to locate Vinnie? That may be because Liu Xi is hiding him somewhere way out of reach. And probably by accident, just for recreation.Vinnie's not too hard to track, but that might not be by accident. Quote: Quote: The Hood never does something for only one reason.Quote: This time, though, he has the good fortune to have plotted with someone (Lara) with the capacity to understand certain aspects of it. At least enough not to ruin those plans accidentally.The Hood's been pulling several strings for some time, as the last scene of UT#334 reveals. Quote: Quote: Long-time readers might note my penchant for having absent poster's characters conveniently absent also. I'm not sure yet how long-time absent character Nats and Hatty are but intend to undertake some consultation on the matter soon.Quote: Yes, I am aware of it.Hatty at least seems due for a quick return. Jury's still out on Nats, Dancer, and Icy. Quote: And story-wise, that would be the secondary question in Lara's mind: Even if she's asked to peek into that rift, would she want to? After all, if it's the Carnifex' closely guarded hiding place, she goes right to the top of the list for being able to see it - and becoming target #1 again is not to plan.The rift wasn't to the Carnifex's stronghold but Ultizon's. Quote: Quote: I think there'd probably be a definite decision to keep Anna away from Ultizon to protect her from harm. Hatman wouldn't want to place her in a "Bride of Ultizon" situation or where her own nanites might be overcome and reprogrammed by a bigger, nastier, more experienced AI. At the very least he wpuldn't want to hand Ultizon a chance to assimilate Anna's technical specs.Quote: That might be part of the lack of trust. Anna was built to be able to destroy the Lair Legion single-handedly using unprecedented intelligence, speed, and weaponry. For SPUD, it was like designing the perfect super-powered ninja assassin who learns and improves and develops more skills as she fights. Unfortunately for them, she also developed a conscience, and escaped.Given all of that it would be dangerous to put her up against a villain who started out as a virus infecting computers with a record for trying to corrupt and assimilate all machine life. It was pretty much Ultizon's special shtick back when he was Virtual Zemo before he took on his current adamantine identity. Quote: But since the Lair Legion doesn't know how strong a conscience figures into her design, they also have to worry that something technical might strip her of it, or suppress it, and she would fall back to her original purpose. They really don't know how deep her conscience may run, or how determined she is to remain passive and friendly to them.She's just too powerful an advantage to possibly offer to the enemy. He doesn't even need to control her, just figure how to duplicate her. | ||
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Subject: I'll be sure to put you on the mailing list. [Re: killer shrike] Posted Sun Jan 31, 2010 at 02:00:47 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Subject: Sixteen is probably the last time a female says that. [Re: Rhiannon] Posted Sun Jan 31, 2010 at 02:02:50 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Thankyou and sorry I took so long to post a reply on the board. I really should have another birthday quickly to find out who dies horribly dinner.Well nobody dies horribly in UT#334 but then again that's just a warm-up chapter. | ||
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Subject: You yiked? [Re: Al B. Harper] Posted Sun Jan 31, 2010 at 02:05:21 pm EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Sweet chapter. Simple yet descriptive in its horror opening, that built up the tension as it went along. I never noticed the Flay and Skinner had those accents before but they fit perfectly. They always Quote: Poor Jay and Nats, and the Shoggoth too maybe. Eh, it's not like they did anything recently. Quote: Poor everyone else next chapter….eek! They're quite safe until UT#335. Quote: Glad I popped by to get to read this fresh. Well popped. | ||
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Quote: Quote: Sweet chapter. Simple yet descriptive in its horror opening, that built up the tension as it went along. I never noticed the Flay and Skinner had those accents before but they fit perfectly. Quote: They alwaysThat should read "They always sounded like that in my head." | ||
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Subject: Re: It's always nice to think that. [Re: HH] Posted Sun Jan 31, 2010 at 08:27:17 pm EST (Viewed 411 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.17 points) Quote: As you'll see in UT#334, the Carnifex has made special provision to deal with a number of LL allies via drastic overkill.He forgot one potential ally, but she's not even on Earth. She also might put up a much bigger fight than he'd imagine, so it's probably better she's far away. Quote: Faite has already interfered to some degree, and that means the Carnifex's sponsors should be able to neutralise her; if only Lara Night's involvement hadn't been retconned a little to offer a small window of opportunity to Faite.The Carnifex' sponsors have to find Faite first - she's really good at being scarce. I guess I should point out how she manages that, because it's really simple. Faite's only ability is to tamper with things that are occurring right now (as opposed to the Hooded Hood, who tampers with history). She can disappear easily by deciding not to be here for a set amount of time. For that period of time, she doesn't exist - those who have seen her will remember her because she can't tamper with the past. But she simply won't be there for a time. Therefore Faite's greatest enemy would be a patient one, someone who would plan carefully and hold out longer than she is willing to disappear for. It also opens the possibility for an enemy of hers to force her to disappear so she can't interfere with their plan. Quote: The Hood's been pulling several strings for some time, as the last scene of UT#334 reveals.Are any of those attached to Faite this time? Quote: She's just too powerful an advantage to possibly offer to the enemy. He doesn't even need to control her, just figure how to duplicate her.From the human point of view, there's just one person who knows the secret to making Anna work the way she does (SPUD tried to make a duplicate but failed, and ended up with an intelligent but not nearly independent android - and they had the blueprints), and it involved some level of human interaction that Utilizon isn't capable of. Then again, he kind of wants the intelligent but not nearly independent version. | ||
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Quote: Quote: As you'll see in UT#334, the Carnifex has made special provision to deal with a number of LL allies via drastic overkill.Quote: He forgot one potential ally, but she's not even on Earth. She also might put up a much bigger fight than he'd imagine, so it's probably better she's far away.As often I'm focussing on one main strand. Others can tie-in or simply assume there are other phases of his plan. Certainly the Carnifex intends to start his main plot on Earth with the LL and head out from there. Quote: Quote: Faite has already interfered to some degree, and that means the Carnifex's sponsors should be able to neutralise her; if only Lara Night's involvement hadn't been retconned a little to offer a small window of opportunity to Faite.Quote: The Carnifex' sponsors have to find Faite first - she's really good at being scarce.Quote: I guess I should point out how she manages that, because it's really simple. Faite's only ability is to tamper with things that are occurring right now (as opposed to the Hooded Hood, who tampers with history). She can disappear easily by deciding not to be here for a set amount of time. For that period of time, she doesn't exist - those who have seen her will remember her because she can't tamper with the past. But she simply won't be there for a time.Quote: Therefore Faite's greatest enemy would be a patient one, someone who would plan carefully and hold out longer than she is willing to disappear for. It also opens the possibility for an enemy of hers to force her to disappear so she can't interfere with their plan.I think the Carnifex's sponsors simply want to destory the Parodyverse before it can fulfil whatever purpose it was originally created for. They don't need to find anyone whose hiding since they just want to burn down the whole house. And since metatextually the Carnifex's sponsors are beings from our own level of reality working against PV creators from our own level of reality they're dangerous because they're magnitudes more "real" than the fictional beings of the Parodyverse. Quote: Quote: The Hood's been pulling several strings for some time, as the last scene of UT#334 reveals.Quote: Are any of those attached to Faite this time?Who can say? Quote: Quote: She's just too powerful an advantage to possibly offer to the enemy. He doesn't even need to control her, just figure how to duplicate her.Quote: From the human point of view, there's just one person who knows the secret to making Anna work the way she does (SPUD tried to make a duplicate but failed, and ended up with an intelligent but not nearly independent android - and they had the blueprints), and it involved some level of human interaction that Utilizon isn't capable of. Then again, he kind of wants the intelligent but not nearly independent version.Ultizon has played the machine messiah before. He'd probably seek to seduce before he neutered, neutralised, or copied. | ||
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Subject: Re: It's always nice to think that. [Re: HH] Posted Mon Feb 01, 2010 at 08:33:17 pm EST (Viewed 426 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.12 points) Quote: I think the Carnifex's sponsors simply want to destory the Parodyverse before it can fulfil whatever purpose it was originally created for. They don't need to find anyone whose hiding since they just want to burn down the whole house.Most likely Faite has arranged to not exist until a point where she knows she can do the most damage when she exists once again. Whether or not she coordinated that with the Hooded Hood (or vice versa) is up for grabs. Quote: And since metatextually the Carnifex's sponsors are beings from our own level of reality working against PV creators from our own level of reality they're dangerous because they're magnitudes more "real" than the fictional beings of the Parodyverse.The only "character" I have like that isn't even in the Parodyverse, and would be hard pressed to do anything about it - from Lara's universe. That character is someone who would have, if she wished the Parodyverse to be saved, arranged things long ago (long enough to make the Hooded Hood jealous) to guarantee it would be saved. But like Bender said in one Futurama episode, if you do your job right, no one will know you've done anything at all. Key to what she does, though, is that like I observed earlier, every destructive, dangerous type misses one tiny thing that seems insignificant but can change everything. What's interesting is that Lara Night is learning from this character. Though her understanding is far more limited by what she can see and know, she's starting to learn to see the grand scheme of things. That's a trait the Hooded Hood probably appreciates. Quote: Ultizon has played the machine messiah before. He'd probably seek to seduce before he neutered, neutralised, or copied.That could fail miserably, simply due to the fact that Anna was born and grew up among humans, and sympathizes with them, and is attracted to them, much moreso than machines. One could say her creator meant it that way. | ||
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Subject: Re: It's always nice to think that. [Re: Anime Jason] Posted Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 09:04:10 am EST (Viewed 1 times) | |
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Quote: Quote: I think the Carnifex's sponsors simply want to destory the Parodyverse before it can fulfil whatever purpose it was originally created for. They don't need to find anyone whose hiding since they just want to burn down the whole house.Quote: Most likely Faite has arranged to not exist until a point where she knows she can do the most damage when she exists once again. Whether or not she coordinated that with the Hooded Hood (or vice versa) is up for grabs.Noted. Quote: Quote: And since metatextually the Carnifex's sponsors are beings from our own level of reality working against PV creators from our own level of reality they're dangerous because they're magnitudes more "real" than the fictional beings of the Parodyverse.Quote: The only "character" I have like that isn't even in the Parodyverse, and would be hard pressed to do anything about it - from Lara's universe. That character is someone who would have, if she wished the Parodyverse to be saved, arranged things long ago (long enough to make the Hooded Hood jealous) to guarantee it would be saved. But like Bender said in one Futurama episode, if you do your job right, no one will know you've done anything at all.I established during one of my tripper moods that the "Creators" of the Parodyverse are basically the posters. The Hooded Hood wants to destroy these creators in revenge for their manipulations and the sufferings they've inflicted on his reality. It's believed that the PV was created "for a purpose", to answer some question or achieve some end. Whatever that purpose is, some on the same level as the Creators don't want it to fulfil that end and it is they who have empowered and sent the Carnifex to prevent that fulfillment by terminating the Parodyverse. Quote: Quote: Ultizon has played the machine messiah before. He'd probably seek to seduce before he neutered, neutralised, or copied.Quote: That could fail miserably, simply due to the fact that Anna was born and grew up among humans, and sympathizes with them, and is attracted to them, much moreso than machines. One could say her creator meant it that way.I don't see Anna ever being willingly allied with Ultizon. To recruit her Ultizon would have to resort to the kind of mind-control or brainwashing that in a human woman would be termed a form of torture or rape. | ||
Anime Jason Owner Location: Here Member Since: Sun Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 2,834 |
Subject: Re: It's always nice to think that. [Re: HH] Posted Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 09:51:27 am EST (Viewed 463 times) | |
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anime.mangacool.net (10.0.255.1) using Apple Safari 4.0.4 on MacOS X (0.08 points) Quote: It's believed that the PV was created "for a purpose", to answer some question or achieve some end. Whatever that purpose is, some on the same level as the Creators don't want it to fulfil that end and it is they who have empowered and sent the Carnifex to prevent that fulfillment by terminating the Parodyverse.Back when Lara's home was just a concept, I went one further: Shema is *a* creator - but from the writer's point of view, she's like the live-in maintenance person. An incredibly well-sighted one, that anticipates problems and performs maintenance to make sure things keep running as they should. And also passes off some of that maintenance to multiple subcontractors, which is how Lara (and others) came to get her unusual special abilities. So the only interest Shema would have in the Parodyverse is because Lara is interested in it. Quote: I don't see Anna ever being willingly allied with Ultizon. To recruit her Ultizon would have to resort to the kind of mind-control or brainwashing that in a human woman would be termed a form of torture or rape.I guess the one down side to Anna being way off the course of logic, and reacting emotionally to things, is she can become irrational or traumatized. The only problem for Utilizon is that's unpredictable: While using logic can produce predictable results, he really doesn't know if his treatment of Anna would produce a cowering child or a careless murderer. Anna sobbing in a small cell and waiting for rescue is not very useful to his plan. |
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