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Most of those creatures aren't intelligent enough to have "sides" but they'll certainly be on the roof.

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Subj: Especially the 30-foot long ones from the nuclear Wasteland north of Gothametropolis.
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      And of course, the way to take out someone who can see any attack coming is to use an attack that cannot be avoided even if it is anticipated.



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    Chiaki went up against the Zoot Suit Gang in an unpublished story


** Insert usual comment about getting it finished and out here **


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    Most likely Yuki would assign someone like Nena to go with Chiaki.


There will be some interesting choices for the entire robot community to make on which "side" to take.


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    I have said before that Faite is an opportunist. She often waits to take action because she wants it to have maximum impact. If she keeps making small changes, anyone opposing her will keep adapting to counter it.


The LL strtaegy - and Sir Mumphrey specifically - will want to make provision for what happens if the energy specifically target entities like Faite. After all, the way to eliminate an opportunist is to act before they have any opportunity.

What we'll probably see is the dispersal of some assets - I'd imagine the ones who aren't the obvious "punch them/zap them" types - to other asset bases that are not ground zero on Parody Island. The LL has plenty of allies across the Earth and beyond. There's no reason that Faite can't function as well from Caph or from Deep Faerie as she could from the Lair Legion Living Room.



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    I thought about it some more, about how Yuki would plan something like this out. She would basically follow the same advice Chiaki keeps giving - to hide your true power - and push lower-power resources to exhaustion first.


There will/would probably be three phases: a frantic first assault where lots of pre-prepared atacks and defences clashed, a long-haul multi-platform fight (probably hours rather than months) where various localised or styolised battles resolved (e.g. a magic war, a tech war, a probability war, some physical ground battles, maybe a time war and some planar invasions etc.), and an endgame that would probably happen very quickly as one side or other gained ascent and influenced the larger cosmic-level battle. Each phase will require different kinds of planning.

Underpining all of them are some inevitable combat needs: both sides will always require intelligence, communications, support material and personnal, and leadership. Both sides will be trying to deny that to the other.



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    The point to all of that is Lara will find it frustrating when Yuki keeps her in the Lair Mansion to "keep it safe and secure". She might keep Liu Xi Xian there as well, at first, and rely on the old school Lair Legion members to wear down the enemy first. She might even ask Chiaki to stay there too.


There's a debate to be had about whether forting up on Parody Island is the best idea. Other resource bases are also available, for example EEE's GMY townhouse with its formidable dimensional defences, Phantomhawl Memorial Hospital with its unexplained protection from supernatural evil, Mi Li's Laundry of Doom, or the sanity-mangling and hard-to-navidate non-Euclidean ghoul tunnels. If the enemy can be lured to focussing disproportionate effort in reducing the Lair Mansion it leaves open the possibility for rear attacks from other concealed forces.

And that is assuming that the LL elects not to do a minute-one offensive on Herringcarp and commit many assets to try and take that resource off the board up front. Any assessment would flag that as a costly win, but that still doesn't mean that it wouldn't be worth it.



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    Faite would definitely be asked to stay put. Yuki would tell her that she has *one* job, and that's to figure out how to break the rules and stop the war once and for all.


Faire might be asked to stay put somewhere, but like Xander, perhaps not where ground zero physical fighting will be.

Also, since the good-guy strategists include a few ruthless bastards, there's also the possibility of using Faite or another high-value intervener as bait for a trap for some of the high-end opposition, in a set-up ambush somewhare. Again, for example, an attack near or at the Nexus of Unreality would offer some unusual terrain advantages to a prepared trap-team, when an enemy seeking a quick elimination of Faite would suddenly discover themselves shifted into a sub-plane of Primal Hero-Feeders or something.



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      For once we don't have the "Superman is so powerful that nothing can realistically challenge him" problem.



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    The people of [Lara's] Earth realized her "true power" then (the one that Chiaki keeps telling everyone to keep hidden) and they started to develop resources. Now any police agency in her world has the ability to contain and capture her.


Wouldn't that mean that some of the villain tech-types could reproduce such equipmment in the Parodyverse?


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    With any luck, the primary LL attack force will take out most of the really tough villains, and leave the rest vulnerable.


There's also the question of how "the imperative" might affect combat goals. It's not clear if the overriding urge will be "kill the baddies" or "make sure our team wins". There would be different compulsions depending on which it is.


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    Yuki would also probably hope that she can work with Al B Harper on tech to break the rules and neutralize the villains without killing them. She does peripherally believe Faite, and hopes breaking enough rules will infuriate the Celestian.


One problem the LL faces is what to do with currently-incarcerated villains, or possibly all convicted and imprisoned criminals. Presumably the good guys will have an imperative to simply blow up all prisons at midnight.


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    Lara's "last resort" theory is that if things get really bad, she could destroy everything, ending the battle quickly enough that the Celestian will feel like it's not fair, and reset it back to the beginning again. It's a self-sacrifice theory, because she knows it will cause her to be kicked back home with no way to get back. She'd hope that things would go better for the heroes the next time, without her there.


I'm not convinced that Lara, or any one being in the Parodyverse, could destory everything. Many of them might destroy Earth, but that only shifts the fight's focus elsewhere to some other planet, plane, timeline, or alternate reality.


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    Basically her theory is based on the idea that she feels the Celestian *is* like a child, and will become angry and change the rules if his toys don't cooperate.


He's a robot so he may not have emotions. On the other hand, he is a robot that has transcended his programming.


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    Though on a much darker note, she also believes that it might be better for a falling Lair Legion to meet a quick end rather than suffer whatever comes next for them.


This is true.


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    She doesn't think it would count as a "suicide attack" because she would technically survive it when she's booted back home.


She hopes she would bet booted. The Dreaming Celestian appears to be pulling a lot of levers, because, as previously mentioned...


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      With his Celestian Space Robot logic and capacity he has considered and eliminated every get-out method he can, having spent millenia calculating them.



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    Part of Yuki's (above) strategy, I believe, is that she knows that they know exactly what she's doing, but they won't be able to do anything about it. They're just going to have to play along.


I'm sure the LL has some strategy to try and obscure their actions and planning. After all, the team has had a long time to prepare for a final clash with the Hooded Hood.

There's no guarantee such precautions are effective, of course, so its best to assume they might not be.



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      The baddies have their Council of Archvillains to co-ordinate them.



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    As I mentioned above, though, Yuki knows their one weakness: Each one of them wants the glory and the gold. The Lair Legion is more satisfied with doing their part.


It is an important distinction, assuming no imperative over-ride.


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      The changed priorities about the need to save collatoral lives will also trouble many of the heroes.



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    This is where Yuki might quickly learn from military long-term strategy and adapt her strategy to it. That kind of strategy is when a force allows some civilian target damage and casualties in order to ultimately free them all from even greater danger.


The LL had some experience of this kind of hard choice during the Parody War, but this might be that kind of decision-making notched up to 11.






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