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Subj: Ants would be a problem.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 at 11:29:56 am EST (Viewed 862 times)
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 at 08:34:27 am EST (Viewed 1 times)



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    And of course, the way to take out someone who can see any attack coming is to use an attack that cannot be avoided even if it is anticipated, like rendering a square mile around her to absolute zero or something. So of course, the LL needs to avoid leaving Chiaki unsupported where there's nobody who could shield her from those kind of "inevitable" assaults.


Chiaki went up against the Zoot Suit Gang in an unpublished story - and they thought of the same thing, trying to create multiple paths of attack so she can't avoid it. They did manage to capture her, but they underestimated her ability to adapt, and they also were fooled by her constant politeness and composure. From being tied up, she managed to turn vicious on them and kill two people with her bare hands, and then corner Frankie.

Left on her own, Chiaki might try to rely on her instincts and flexibility to protect her when going after those psychics. But Yuki would have to be out of her mind to let her do that alone.

Most likely Yuki would assign someone like Nena to go with Chiaki. Yuki's strategy would be to pick someone who doesn't look like an even bigger threat than Chiaki, and who is relatively unknown to the other side. That would hopefully lead them to spend very few resources in stopping the two of them.

She would pick Nena because she only *looks* harmless. If you've ever seen Black Magic M-66, that's the sort of training she has - she can absolutely destroy an entire paramilitary force in seconds. Why not Anna? Because out of the two "sisters", Anna is the one that respects human life. Nena has a strong sense of morality, but is indifferent toward humans.



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    What I'm suggesting is that for every power trying to shield the heroes and disadvantage the villains there'll be a demon lord or malefic elder entity trying the reverse. That might lead to some very personal multi-dimensional clashes - the Ausgardian Oldman is likely to get physical, for example - but some for some others it will be a much more cerebral and subtle excercise. The sum effect is likely to be what happens when there's a schoolyard fight and the combatants friends each stop the other boys' friends from pitching in and affecting the brawl.


I have said before that Faite is an opportunist. She often waits to take action because she wants it to have maximum impact. If she keeps making small changes, anyone opposing her will keep adapting to counter it.

So it's most likely that Faite, unless backed into a corner needing to save the Lair Legion from utter destruction, will wait until a pivotal moment and then do something major, when it's too difficult - or better yet, too late - to counter it. Something that will tilt the battlefield firmly in her favor.



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    That's a likely strategy, and there may well be "first minute", "first hour", and maybe "first day" plans for deployment. But they need to be flexible, since nobody is quite sure what attacks will come in what order.


I thought about it some more, about how Yuki would plan something like this out. She would basically follow the same advice Chiaki keeps giving - to hide your true power - and push lower-power resources to exhaustion first. Keep pushing them and pushing them until the enemy believes that's all she has to offer. Just when they think they're going to win, the fully refreshed heavy hitters start to come in, and by then the enemy is exhausted and off guard.

She knows the enemy will try the same tactic; so she'll always keep something hidden, so just when they think she's out of weapons and ideas, she'll have more. Slow and steady wins the race.

The point to all of that is Lara will find it frustrating when Yuki keeps her in the Lair Mansion to "keep it safe and secure". She might keep Liu Xi Xian there as well, at first, and rely on the old school Lair Legion members to wear down the enemy first. She might even ask Chiaki to stay there too.

Faite would definitely be asked to stay put. Yuki would tell her that she has *one* job, and that's to figure out how to break the rules and stop the war once and for all.



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    In the kind of all-out fight we're talking about there are hundreds of ways for enemies to clash and quite a few that would be narratively interesting. For once we don't have the "Superman is so powerful that nothing can realistically challenge him" problem.


Here's some irony for you, on that topic: Lara Night is by far the most experienced dealing with overwhelming opposition. Back home, she's not the only Guardian - there are several, and not all of them are selfless. So she's had to confront one with way more power and experience than she has. Sadly, the only way she could think to survive that encounter was to kill that Guardian quickly before he had a change to fight back.

But there was a consequence to that. The people of her Earth realized her "true power" then (the one that Chiaki keeps telling everyone to keep hidden) and they started to develop resources. Now any police agency in her world has the ability to contain and capture her. Part of the reason she retired - because it meant her world no longer really needed people like her.

So Lara might be the only super-type in the Parodyverse right now that truly understands what it's like to be an obsolete Superman.



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    There are a bunch of heroes who could theoretically unship that kind of power. Kerry can cause solar flares, for example, and Donar's weather control could doubtless destroy a fair portion of a continent. The enemy has some omega-class power types too whose neutralisation will surely be a priority. And that's not even counting what Dancer could do if she ever stopped being nice - which she will at midnight.


And that's partly how I came up with Yuki's most likely strategy. She knows the old-school Legion has more in them than they've used in quite a while. She knows the other side may have organizational skills, but they don't have the ability to hold back. That's her advantage. With any luck, the primary LL attack force will take out most of the really tough villains, and leave the rest vulnerable.

She also hopes her strategy means that they'll essentially be on the doorstep of a win before she ever has to deploy the more powerful resources.

Yuki would also probably hope that she can work with Al B Harper on tech to break the rules and neutralize the villains without killing them. She does peripherally believe Faite, and hopes breaking enough rules will infuriate the Celestian.



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      As I said though, she's against it, but she also holds on to a theory that maybe after everything is destroyed it will reset. So if it gets desperate enough, she might consider that.



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    What Lisa, Faite, and a few others might percieve is that the Dreaming Celestial has basically turned off the PV's resets. His programming seems to include tidying away the toys when he's finished with them.


Lara's "last resort" theory is that if things get really bad, she could destroy everything, ending the battle quickly enough that the Celestian will feel like it's not fair, and reset it back to the beginning again. It's a self-sacrifice theory, because she knows it will cause her to be kicked back home with no way to get back. She'd hope that things would go better for the heroes the next time, without her there.

Basically her theory is based on the idea that she feels the Celestian *is* like a child, and will become angry and change the rules if his toys don't cooperate.

It might not be a correct theory, but that's the best last-resort she can come up with based on what's around her.

Though on a much darker note, she also believes that it might be better for a falling Lair Legion to meet a quick end rather than suffer whatever comes next for them. She believes that there are no limits to the depths the truly evil will sink, and she imagines all the horrible things that would happen to Magweed and Griffin, for instance, after all the primary LL members are killed.

She doesn't think it would count as a "suicide attack" because she would technically survive it when she's booted back home.



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    With his Celestian Space Robot logic and capacity he has considered and eliminated every get-out method he can, having spent millenia calculating them.


Side note about Faite: She still believes the Dreaming Celesian forgot some things, and she's determined to find out everything he forgot about. The thing is, she's not aware if anyone else is thinking the same thing.

But it does mean she's going to "calculate" every single loophole and exploit it both to protect her friends, and also to follow Yuki's order to figure out a way to put a stop to it.



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    That's part of the operation. The other parts after intel are getting a route to attack and a means of delivering the kill; all the while fending of an enemy who is trying to do the same thing to Chiaki and other good-guy intelligence resources.


Part of Yuki's (above) strategy, I believe, is that she knows that they know exactly what she's doing, but they won't be able to do anything about it. They're just going to have to play along.



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    Another of those borderline-deity entities that stoops to play in mundane reality is Mad Wendy, now Lord of the Nightmare Realm (she's an omega-class psychic reality manipulator with Mxyzptlk-type powers occupying the ecological niche of Frightmare, the PV's former version of Dr Strange's Nightmare). She's also a spooky little girl of about the same apparent age as Faite. She, and the Mxyzptlk-like Eddie the Imp are likely to pitch in to "cheat" against the heroes in their distinctive ways (Mad Wendy is a bit more Tim Burton's Alice and Eddie is more evil-Mork). I expect that the pair of them will slap right into white hats like Lisa and Faite.


Faite wouldn't be intimidated by them. She knows how to keep them busy.



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    The baddies have their Council of Archvillains to co-ordinate them. That now includes tactical geniuses such as Silence of the Lambs-style manipulator Blackbird, master strategist the Word of Logos, and deep schemer Baroness von Zemo. The Hooded Hood appears to be ensuring that they co-operate.


As I mentioned above, though, Yuki knows their one weakness: Each one of them wants the glory and the gold. The Lair Legion is more satisfied with doing their part.



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    The changed priorities about the need to save collatoral lives will also trouble many of the heroes.


This is where Yuki might quickly learn from military long-term strategy and adapt her strategy to it. That kind of strategy is when a force allows some civilian target damage and casualties in order to ultimately free them all from even greater danger.






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